hop-frog
04-16-2003, 06:41 PM
I've been reading that some U.S. based distros have stopped shipping mp3 software along with Linux. Is there a Web site explaining the laws around their decision?
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bwkaz
04-16-2003, 09:52 PM
The reason RH stripped itself of MP3 support back in RH8 was because the company that owns the patent rights to the format now requires any decoders to pay them money, rather than just the encoders (which was the state of things "before").
So RH stopped shipping MP3 support, and started urging customers to move over to Ogg, which was completely open, and will always be. Which is cool, because Oggs (or more appropriately, Vorbis files -- Ogg is the file format, Vorbis is the audio stream inside the file) are smaller at the same quality anyway.
The law behind it is straight patent law.
So RH stopped shipping MP3 support, and started urging customers to move over to Ogg, which was completely open, and will always be. Which is cool, because Oggs (or more appropriately, Vorbis files -- Ogg is the file format, Vorbis is the audio stream inside the file) are smaller at the same quality anyway.
The law behind it is straight patent law.
pythagras
04-16-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by bwkaz
The reason RH stripped itself of MP3 support back in RH8 was because the company that owns the patent rights to the format now requires any decoders to pay them money, rather than just the encoders (which was the state of things "before").
So RH stopped shipping MP3 support, and started urging customers to move over to Ogg, which was completely open, and will always be. Which is cool, because Oggs (or more appropriately, Vorbis files -- Ogg is the file format, Vorbis is the audio stream inside the file) are smaller at the same quality anyway.
The law behind it is straight patent law.
What tools can be used to convert wma/mp3 -> ogg?
The reason RH stripped itself of MP3 support back in RH8 was because the company that owns the patent rights to the format now requires any decoders to pay them money, rather than just the encoders (which was the state of things "before").
So RH stopped shipping MP3 support, and started urging customers to move over to Ogg, which was completely open, and will always be. Which is cool, because Oggs (or more appropriately, Vorbis files -- Ogg is the file format, Vorbis is the audio stream inside the file) are smaller at the same quality anyway.
The law behind it is straight patent law.
What tools can be used to convert wma/mp3 -> ogg?
serz
04-16-2003, 10:31 PM
http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/
www.vorbis.com
www.vorbis.com
bwkaz
04-16-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by pythagras
What tools can be used to convert wma/mp3 -> ogg? I don't know about WMA, but I found three or four projects on Freshmeat that did it (one, the one I ended up using, was a Perl script that just piped the files through mpg123 then through oggenc) with MP3's.
Beware, though -- converting one lossy format (MP3/WMA) to another (even Ogg) will make the quality suffer. Guaranteed. MP3 and WMA both throw away parts of the waveform, and Vorbis throws away a different part. This makes the sound quality suffer. You will be much happier ripping from a CD directly to Vorbis.
What tools can be used to convert wma/mp3 -> ogg? I don't know about WMA, but I found three or four projects on Freshmeat that did it (one, the one I ended up using, was a Perl script that just piped the files through mpg123 then through oggenc) with MP3's.
Beware, though -- converting one lossy format (MP3/WMA) to another (even Ogg) will make the quality suffer. Guaranteed. MP3 and WMA both throw away parts of the waveform, and Vorbis throws away a different part. This makes the sound quality suffer. You will be much happier ripping from a CD directly to Vorbis.
ssjf
04-17-2003, 02:45 PM
Who cares if we loose quality?? Vorbis is open and free! Live on Opensource!!
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Have a nice day.
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