How Do I Turn off Linux?

[Eroberer]

yea, what the topic said. I'm just so used to a shut down process now, and I no absolutely nothing about Linux, except that I just installed a distro (MDK 8.1).

It's not recognizing my graphics card (nVidia GeForce2 Go), and I have just about every server they MDK offered starting up at the beginning (I don't know what they do, so I figure I'll turn them off later), but most of all, I want to know how to turn it off without leaving any bits of the OS elsewhere. I've already got a good idea on how to fix the other problems, but help on them would be appriciated, too.

Thank you!

[ 22 October 2001: Message edited by: Eroberer ]

[slacker_x]

are you talking about the command to shutdown the computer?

If so, "halt" or "shutdown -h now" will work

[Eroberer]

yup

all these ultra technical questions, I figured these boards needed some variety.

Thanks!

[Xsecrets]

In case your still reading the post the drivers you need don't come with mandrake, but can be downloaded off nvidia's web site. thier drivers do work with the 2go chips.

[Joeri Sebrechts]

Originally posted by Eroberer:
<STRONG>I have just about every server they MDK offered starting up at the beginning (I don't know what they do, so I figure I'll turn them off later)</STRONG>

Don't do this. You're much better off disabling every server, and then enabling it when you discover something doesn't work. If your machine is hooked up to the net it will very soon (maybe even right now) be vulnerable to attack if you leave a lot of services running. And an attacker might not just destroy your linux, but your windows on the other partition too.

Even if you installed mandrake on a PC without a net connection it's a good idea to start with a minimal system. You learn more about the system when it doesn't work than when it does.

[Dark Ninja]

Joeri is absolutely correct - DO NOT have every service running. Because, if you have installed every service, that means you have telnet, FTP (possibly with an anonymous account), and many other servers with known security holes that are exploitable.

It is advisable (not just by me - but people involved in the security field) that you install the most minimal configuration possible, decide what you need, and THEN install the server/daemons that you require. This will prevent you a lot of wear and tear later on.

Also, it may also be a good idea to setup some sort of firewall to protect any other ports which you don't want open to attack.


Dark Ninja

[Eroberer]

So how do I turn off all of these servers so that they don't startup on startup? Do you do a reformat and a clean install?

Although, I think I'm alright security wise, since I don't think my network card is setup properly =)

[Eroberer]

Also, can I not just hit the off button to turn the computer off, when in the command line, or maybe even in KDE?

[bdg1983]

You don't reformat and install again to turn off services. MS yes but Linux no.

Try the KDE Control Center under System/Startup/Services

[david]

or the mandrake control center, under system&gt;services(in mdk8 anyway)

[X_console]

Do not hit the power off button without first running halt or shutdown -h now unless you're willing to spend time repairing the damage to the filesystem.

Even if you're using reiserfs, don't do this. Shutdown properly, and then switch off.

[Eroberer]

good advice =) ...so I used the power button already, but what's going to happen next time I run since I formatted using ReiserFS?

[ 22 October 2001: Message edited by: Eroberer ]

[X_console]

Probably nothing. Reiserfs is pretty good at preventing damage to the filesystem so you don't have to run fsck if you had an ext2 filesystem. But like the documentation for reiserfs says, don't take the risk.

[Eroberer]

Well that's good, 'cus when I type "shutdown -h now", it doens't do anything.

I think I just don't know where I am. The whole time I'm typing it says ["username" &&"username"dhcp] or something like this, where "username" is my username.... this is so not intuitive and frustrating!

[Eroberer]

Also, whenever I try to change directories to some things I've seen around, like /etc/, it doesn't do anything. I just can't figure out where I am! There are no instruction!

[Eroberer]

now, when I type "halt" with no dash, it will do stuff...and I turned it off after it did that stuff. I'm guessing I did the right thing.

So how do I get to where all my programs and directories are? It says [eroberer@localhost eroberer]$, all the time, and this doesn't seem right to me. I have to find certain files to try to install drivers for my video card, and I can't do it from where I login to.

[ 22 October 2001: Message edited by: Eroberer ]

[kormoc]

Yes that is right. With the line:
[eroberer@localhost eroberer]$
[Username@hostname Directory]$
Type ls for a LiSting
cd for Change Directory
Startx enters the GUI if you have it set up
What video card drivers are you tring to install?

[Eroberer]

First, no where did I see that I needed a space between "cd" and "/", so I've found where everything was installed now. =)

It's a nVidia GeForce2 Go graphics card, and I'm trying to install the drivers for RH 7.1 from nVidia's site. The only thing is I have them on a DOS formatted disk, and Linux isn't reading anything from it.

Any ideas on how to get the files right? I'm going to be doing some random things for a bit, with some directions for other OSes and the same graphics card, but if you feel like you can help, I'm listening. =)

[kormoc]

take a look at this thread http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=024173
I just posted how to install Nvidia drivers.
Hope this helps.
Also, are you getting online with linux or with windows?

[Eroberer]

Will do!

:cool: WindowsME :cool:

ping under linux is saying it can't recognize any sites, so I'm thinking my network settings are incorrect. The install kept deleting my mask and default gateway and some other numbers that I just guessed at, so I'm assuming I read my WinME info
wrong. I didn't spend too much time trying to figure out how the University techs connected my laptop to the web, but if you have some guesses, I'll hear them.

Edit: Btw, I found the drivers I downloaded onto the disk. just did ls -al, and they showed up there.

[ 23 October 2001: Message edited by: Eroberer ]

[Derango]

Originally posted by Eroberer:
<STRONG>
:cool: WindowsME :cool:
</STRONG>

&lt;shiver&gt; ugh, winME! I'm not aginst windows in general...just the fact that anyone thinks the buggiest version of windows is cool sickens me ;)

You'll probably have to look realy closely at your windowsME network settings. All the info you need is there, espicaly how they configued it to get an IP address (if it started with one, or if it was automaticly assigned an IP). If it was automaticly assigned an IP in the first place, its pretty easy to get everything working, as long as your network card (well...not a card, you're on a laptop...you get the point ;) ) is being detected and set up properly by linux.

[ 23 October 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]

[ 23 October 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]

[sym]

Originally posted by Derango:
<STRONG>
You'll probably have to look realy closely at your windowsME network settings.</STRONG>

(Eroberer) FYI, if you don't know already , enter the command prompt window in Windows, and type ipconfig /all. This will show you network settings.

[ 23 October 2001: Message edited by: sym ]

[X_console]

I suggest buying Running Linux 3rd Edition by Matt Welsh. Nice book for those new to Linux.

[Eroberer]

WinME is unstable, but not so much that I regret getting it while I wait on my WinXP upgrade ($20 from Dell). I'm looking to use either of them strictly for games, though.

Anyway, thanks for the help, all. I'll look into that book, and I've already got a pretty good idea about getting my network up.

[kormoc]

Win ME is not unstable, IF you turn off all the unstable junk (active desktop, Auto updates, Restore stuff) You can get any version of windows working well. If you run Winipcfg, you get a windows version of ipconfig /all. Easer to use imho.