scottie924
03-15-2003, 02:38 AM
Does any one know of any sites that sell customizeable computers with linux on them? I can only find ones with redhat or suse. thanks
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sharth
03-15-2003, 02:52 AM
But aren't red hat and suse linux.
scottie924
03-15-2003, 01:18 PM
Yea, I don't really want red hat because I'm a newbie, but I do want linux. I can only find about two sites and they only have intel's with red hat or suse, I'm looking for AMD and like mandrake.
CMonster
03-15-2003, 01:53 PM
Here (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=106562&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A106562)
(some smoking deals at WalMart -like 1.1Ghz Duron systems for $199)
or just www.walmart.com
www.lindows.com
(some smoking deals at WalMart -like 1.1Ghz Duron systems for $199)
or just www.walmart.com
www.lindows.com
chucksaysword2
03-15-2003, 02:17 PM
If you are willing to spend some more money I suggest:
http://www.qlilinuxpc.com
http://www.qlilinuxpc.com
Zaren
03-15-2003, 02:21 PM
Monarch Computer (http://www.monarchcomputer.com) has AMD's for sale, and I'm looking at a page (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=80812&Category_Code=SOHO) right now that lets you select Mandrake 9.0 as an OS. I dig monarch a lot, they have great systems for great prices. They have a tech support forum that repsonds to your hardware questions FAST even if you aren't a paying customer.
Pretty good people - at least they seem to be thus far.
~Z
--Changed I dig mandrake to I dig monarch... *grumble*
Pretty good people - at least they seem to be thus far.
~Z
--Changed I dig mandrake to I dig monarch... *grumble*
michaelk
03-17-2003, 08:46 AM
Walmart sells Mandrake configured PC's :)
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=102252&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A102252
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=102252&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A102252
dmd3x
03-17-2003, 05:26 PM
RedHat isn't too hard for a newb. It is what I use and I am a newb (only been using Linux for a few months). You just gotta learn your directory structure, a few commands, and where your apps are and you are all set.
Fryguy8
03-17-2003, 05:32 PM
Err, why not just save a lot of money and build the computer yourself?
retoon
03-18-2003, 01:24 AM
Probably because its not always cheaper to build your own pc.;)
chatins
03-18-2003, 04:26 AM
i think you are putting the cart before the horse. Choose your version on linux then get the computer that runs it best. qli, as mentioned is a safe bet. Stay away from Walmart for anything computer related. they always sell for less always. I think this time they sold themselves short with lindows.:)
Fryguy8
03-18-2003, 07:53 PM
dude, it's almost always cheaper to build your own pc.
retoon
03-18-2003, 11:21 PM
dude, it is almost always cheaper to buy it from a manufacturer. Point a -
manufacturers buy all of their parts in bulk, and get better deals and are able to project those deals to the average consumer. I realize that you can buy oem, which brings me to point b.
Point b-
Manufacturers almost always give out a one year warranty with their machines, which means that if anything goes down, its replaceable by the manufacturer. I worked at a place for a little while simply checking the different machines, making sure that the machines were working properly, if there were any problematic machines, I would diagnose, and then contact Dell who supplied our pcs, and simply called in for parts. Collectively, it is less expensive to get a machine preassembled with a warranty then to buy the parts oem with out one. dude;)
manufacturers buy all of their parts in bulk, and get better deals and are able to project those deals to the average consumer. I realize that you can buy oem, which brings me to point b.
Point b-
Manufacturers almost always give out a one year warranty with their machines, which means that if anything goes down, its replaceable by the manufacturer. I worked at a place for a little while simply checking the different machines, making sure that the machines were working properly, if there were any problematic machines, I would diagnose, and then contact Dell who supplied our pcs, and simply called in for parts. Collectively, it is less expensive to get a machine preassembled with a warranty then to buy the parts oem with out one. dude;)
Primus
03-18-2003, 11:38 PM
I agree it is cheaper to buy a pre-assembled PC. However, most pre-assembled PC's are aimed at the masses and don't always have certain hardware that indivduals want.
I find it is far more satisfying have your own custom box because you can modify everything to your liking, even if it may cost a bit more it is worth it.
Redhat, and SuSE are both good for Newbies....
<--- I learned on SuSE.... well actually I am still learning. ;)
You never know everything!
I find it is far more satisfying have your own custom box because you can modify everything to your liking, even if it may cost a bit more it is worth it.
Redhat, and SuSE are both good for Newbies....
<--- I learned on SuSE.... well actually I am still learning. ;)
You never know everything!
retoon
03-19-2003, 12:18 AM
oh no, don't get me wrong. The best systems are those that you build for yourself. I put my machine together and used parts that no pc distributor would ever copnsider putting together, unless custom built, or alienware. I said cheapest, not the best. my machine is preassembled, and so is my sisters. But as far as total cost effectiveness, building your own doesn't always solve it. If you have the money, and want the best system build your own. Check out IBM. I don't know for sure whether or not they have started selling personal pcs, or business pcs with linux preinstalled. red Hat 8 is a pretty good distro to start out on, and its pretty good once you're into it too. Check it out!:D
retoon
03-19-2003, 12:42 AM
P.S. I don't know what anyone else thinks, but my father hasn't had a single problem with any of the three Netvista desktops he purchased through IBM. I also figure that IBM is one of, if not the, biggest supporter of the linux movement, and I don't mind supporting them one bit.
do_guh_new
03-22-2003, 12:56 PM
site for you custom made linux boxes, you can't beat www.sunsetsystems.com and to the guy that linked him to wal-mart........ come on man ;)
NerfRaider
02-16-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by chucksaysword2
If you are willing to spend some more money I suggest:
http://www.qlilinuxpc.com
I wouldn't. QLI Linux (http://www.sniggle.net/qlilinux.html) has been nothing but trouble for me.
In September, 2003, the power regulator on my QLI Emperor Laptop went belly-up. I emailed QLI and they recommended that I send it to them for a repair estimate. On September 20th I did. I haven't seen the laptop since. It's now February, 2004.
At the end of September I wrote in to ask if they'd received the laptop, and they replied "your system is being evaluated, and we should have a repair estimate in the next 5-7 days." Three weeks later I wrote to ask about the estimate and was told "give us a day or two and with all luck we will have your estimate, and possibly even the parts needed."
Ten days after that (now we're at the end of October), they respond to my increasingly worried email: "The best info we've been able to gather on that unit so far is 'No Problem Found'... We will keep you posted as soon as we hear word."
This is starting to look bad. Over a month after receiving my laptop, they've gone from saying they're on the verge of having the parts needed to repair it to saying that they haven't found any problem. I call QLI and talk to a representative there who tells me that the motherboard will have to be replaced because the power regulator is part of the motherboard and can't be replaced separately. I ask them to send me a repair estimate for the motherboard replacement.
On November 11th, they finally send me an estimate: "The repair estimate is $475.00 to completely fix the system, as there is a motherboard/power connector problem." I decide to go ahead with the repairs and I PayPal the $475 to QLI the same day. I ask QLI: "Do you have any estimate for when the repairs will be complete?"
The response: "We ask, and get back to you later today or tomorrow. Our rough guess would be about a week."
They did not get back to me "later today or tomorrow" so on November 28th I asked again: "Do you have an estimate as to when the repair work will be done and I'll have my laptop back?"
On December 2nd they replied "Your system is at the manufacturers facility in China/Hong Kong. We have been charged for the replacement part, however that is their standard policy for any out of warranty service. We can drop a note to them and see how things are progressing.... As we are updated, we will pass information along to you."
I thanked them for the update, and waited until January before emailing again to ask if there was any change in status. My January 5th letter wasn't answered. Ditto January 16th, January 20th and January 23rd. I called the QLI toll-free number - it was down (and was still down a month later when I called again).
So I sleuthed around and found the owner's cell and home phone numbers and left messages for him there. That finally got a response: "We had to put in another call to the manufacturer. The word we have is the power board is not the cause of the problem, and they are now claiming it is the motherboard. We are waiting for a price estimate, and there is currently an amount on deposit, as you were charged a deposit fee from our records. The manufacturer was shut down for the chinese new year, we've just been getting caught up from the holiday rush, please excuse the delay."
Naturally, I was flabbergasted, and wrote back explaining that the $475 was not a deposit, that the motherboard had always been the problem, and that they'd had my laptop more than long enough to fix it and return it to me. It's mid-February. My laptop has been missing for almost five months now. I've put in a complaint to the Better Business Bureau (and that's when I found out I wasn't the first one).
If you are willing to spend some more money I suggest:
http://www.qlilinuxpc.com
I wouldn't. QLI Linux (http://www.sniggle.net/qlilinux.html) has been nothing but trouble for me.
In September, 2003, the power regulator on my QLI Emperor Laptop went belly-up. I emailed QLI and they recommended that I send it to them for a repair estimate. On September 20th I did. I haven't seen the laptop since. It's now February, 2004.
At the end of September I wrote in to ask if they'd received the laptop, and they replied "your system is being evaluated, and we should have a repair estimate in the next 5-7 days." Three weeks later I wrote to ask about the estimate and was told "give us a day or two and with all luck we will have your estimate, and possibly even the parts needed."
Ten days after that (now we're at the end of October), they respond to my increasingly worried email: "The best info we've been able to gather on that unit so far is 'No Problem Found'... We will keep you posted as soon as we hear word."
This is starting to look bad. Over a month after receiving my laptop, they've gone from saying they're on the verge of having the parts needed to repair it to saying that they haven't found any problem. I call QLI and talk to a representative there who tells me that the motherboard will have to be replaced because the power regulator is part of the motherboard and can't be replaced separately. I ask them to send me a repair estimate for the motherboard replacement.
On November 11th, they finally send me an estimate: "The repair estimate is $475.00 to completely fix the system, as there is a motherboard/power connector problem." I decide to go ahead with the repairs and I PayPal the $475 to QLI the same day. I ask QLI: "Do you have any estimate for when the repairs will be complete?"
The response: "We ask, and get back to you later today or tomorrow. Our rough guess would be about a week."
They did not get back to me "later today or tomorrow" so on November 28th I asked again: "Do you have an estimate as to when the repair work will be done and I'll have my laptop back?"
On December 2nd they replied "Your system is at the manufacturers facility in China/Hong Kong. We have been charged for the replacement part, however that is their standard policy for any out of warranty service. We can drop a note to them and see how things are progressing.... As we are updated, we will pass information along to you."
I thanked them for the update, and waited until January before emailing again to ask if there was any change in status. My January 5th letter wasn't answered. Ditto January 16th, January 20th and January 23rd. I called the QLI toll-free number - it was down (and was still down a month later when I called again).
So I sleuthed around and found the owner's cell and home phone numbers and left messages for him there. That finally got a response: "We had to put in another call to the manufacturer. The word we have is the power board is not the cause of the problem, and they are now claiming it is the motherboard. We are waiting for a price estimate, and there is currently an amount on deposit, as you were charged a deposit fee from our records. The manufacturer was shut down for the chinese new year, we've just been getting caught up from the holiday rush, please excuse the delay."
Naturally, I was flabbergasted, and wrote back explaining that the $475 was not a deposit, that the motherboard had always been the problem, and that they'd had my laptop more than long enough to fix it and return it to me. It's mid-February. My laptop has been missing for almost five months now. I've put in a complaint to the Better Business Bureau (and that's when I found out I wasn't the first one).
Icarus
02-16-2004, 08:50 PM
I'm suprised nobody's mentioned this yet
http://emperorlinux.com/
http://emperorlinux.com/
hammer123
02-16-2004, 09:15 PM
I've built a few. The hardware I saw was generally guaranteed for AT LEAST a year. I don't need A+ certification to open up the box like I do for Dell. Hardware did not have manufacturing, service or labor fees and concistently cheaper
ZenelithCalling
02-16-2004, 09:27 PM
Don't know how good these PC's are, but HP has some systems where you can choose Mandrake instead of Windows
hp systems (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wpa/comparetool/compareProds.do?wireFrame=WF02d&fullPathOid=12454-64287-89301&family=N&productTypeName=&productTypeURL=&productCategoryName=Business%20Desktop%20PCs&productCategoryURL=/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02d/12454-64287-89301.html&comparisontype=IN-CATEGORY&comparisonLevel=SERIES¤tFamily=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9&productBusinessType=&ciToolnRGID=&ciToolsCT=AID1225&compaqLogo=NO&languagecode=en&countrycode=us&segmentHomeURL=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&segmentName=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&segmentcode=sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-321857_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-321863_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-337529_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321881-f9-321883_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321881-f9-352427_us_en_sm&ctry=us&lang=eng&hps=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&hpn=return%20to%20Small%20&%20Medium%20business&qp=url:us/en/sm&hpr=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&hpa=http://thenew.hp.com/country/us/eng/contact_us.html&hph=http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/jsp/us/en/howtofind.jsp?seghomename=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&seghomeurl=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&segcode=sm&dateStart%20=01/01/2000&pageId%20=&audienceId=0&statusId=0&memberId=&assemble=0&exactPageMatch=1&longlanguagecode=en&longsegmentcode=)
hp systems (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wpa/comparetool/compareProds.do?wireFrame=WF02d&fullPathOid=12454-64287-89301&family=N&productTypeName=&productTypeURL=&productCategoryName=Business%20Desktop%20PCs&productCategoryURL=/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02d/12454-64287-89301.html&comparisontype=IN-CATEGORY&comparisonLevel=SERIES¤tFamily=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9&productBusinessType=&ciToolnRGID=&ciToolsCT=AID1225&compaqLogo=NO&languagecode=en&countrycode=us&segmentHomeURL=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&segmentName=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&segmentcode=sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-321857_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-321863_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-337529_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321881-f9-321883_us_en_sm&selectedSeries=12454-64287-89301-321881-f9-352427_us_en_sm&ctry=us&lang=eng&hps=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&hpn=return%20to%20Small%20&%20Medium%20business&qp=url:us/en/sm&hpr=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&hpa=http://thenew.hp.com/country/us/eng/contact_us.html&hph=http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/jsp/us/en/howtofind.jsp?seghomename=Small%20&%20Medium%20business&seghomeurl=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&segcode=sm&dateStart%20=01/01/2000&pageId%20=&audienceId=0&statusId=0&memberId=&assemble=0&exactPageMatch=1&longlanguagecode=en&longsegmentcode=)
mdwatts
02-17-2004, 11:11 AM
Resurrecting old threads again? :)
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