Whisler and Mandrake 7.2?

[Cloak_Linux]

Hi,

I know i can install win98 and mandrake no probleme.

On my second machine i installed whisler and want to install Mandrake, go idea, gonna work or not?

Please let me know, i want to install linux quickly http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

Thanks!

[Cloak_Linux]

Anyone!?

[Pyrosophy]

I don't see why it shouldn't work as long as the two operating systems have their own partitions. Probably you wouldn't want to use lin4win or whatever mandrake's latest joeconsumer way of installing linux is.

Pyro

[Cloak_Linux]

That is what i tought, but i heard horror stories about win2k and linux.

Didn't want to screw up my Whisler Setup since it took me a while to install.

And Thank You for the reply, appreciated http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

[Cloak_Linux]

Well i tried to setup mandrake and guess what when i made my partion and tried to save them the program f***ed up and i lost all my partitions.

They should really try to fix that install program it keeps f***ing up on me at multiple times http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif

Anyone else trouble with the install program?

[MkIII_Supra]

Originally posted by Cloak_Linux:
Well i tried to setup mandrake and guess what when i made my partion and tried to save them the program f***ed up and i lost all my partitions.

They should really try to fix that install program it keeps f***ing up on me at multiple times http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif

Anyone else trouble with the install program?


Your kidding right? The Mandrake installer is by far the easiest installer I have ever, I mean ever seen! If it's blue is FAT 32 if it's Gray it's either Reiser (Reiser is also seen as Maroon!) or it's NT 4.0 / W2K. Simple... if it's red then that is a native ext2fs and if it's green it's swap.

You need to assign at leas the following:
For all win partitions make them /mnt/dos OR /mnt/winders

Then you need to have double the RAM or 128 minimum for your SWAP file. Then the next partition that you have to have is / that's it! That is a simple partition layout.

So let's recap this:
Partition 101
The following is based on a WD 7200RPM 20GB HD -->
/boot = 10MB
/ = 6GB
/home = 4GB
/mnt/winders = 10GB

Once all partition are set then only format the non-dos partitions. And yes your whistler / w2k thingy is DOS. Make sure that when you set-up the drive that you put the /boot at the beginning of the drive! then /mnt/winders then the rest.

Never had a problem using the `Drake installer for setting my partitions. I even used it a couple of times to recover fried winders partitions! How about that!

This message was posted to help but with a huge helping of bitter sarcasm! http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/tongue.gif

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[Cloak_Linux]

Don't get me wrong MkIII_Supra, i love mandrake but i did my partions has follows.

on my western 20gig (lucky guess on your part)

a- 5 gig winpartition
b- 2.5 Gig (linux native "/")
c- 256MB (linuxswap "i have 128MB")
d- Rest of it (LinuxNative "/home")

Now why did you put a boot of 10 MB?

i probably missed something and i don't want to mount my dirty win partition http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

Please make more imput if you can figure out my prob.

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by Cloak_Linux (edited 13 January 2001).]

[Shad]

Should be no problems there, but advanced partioning should be followed.

/boot is used with old versions of Lilo (or Grub) or MoBo's that do not support LBA you only need about 10-15mb for it.

swap some swap space is going to be needed. Don't skimp on it.

/ only need about 300mb if you use the other partions but more is useful, particularly if you need to set up symlinked directories.

/usr With most modern distros you will need a 1gb or more for your binaries and libraries.

/var only need 100megs or so though more might be needed if you expect a lot of logging to take place. I personally ran into a problem with my pppoe logs went crazy a while back and filled my /var partion. If it hadn't been seperate, it might have rendered my system inoperable.

/tmp same thing

/home have enough space for your stuff.

/usr/local not really necessary, but real helpful.

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Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life

[MkIII_Supra]

Sorry, I lashed out at you and it was not called for. No exscuse. As far as the /boot = 10M I do that to ensure that by boot sector for Linux is at the very beginning of the drive in a dual boot configuration.

What I do is I first start with the Linux install so I can create the initial partitions. Once they are formatted I exit then install winders on it's partition. Then I go back in and install Linux. With the 10M /boot partition I ensure that my boot loader is going to work. I have yet to have a dual or even triple boot fail. And I even had a quad boot on a friends machine just because we wanted too!

Now your /home partition only needs about 1G if even that. The / and any others you may create will need more room. You have software that you might install later that won't have enough room so then you will have to hassle with linking files and there is no need for it. Also cron jobs for maintainence in the /var/log partition create little .gz files if you set it up correctly. If you don't clean them out on a regfular basis then you run into the same problem numerous others here have had.

Also when you install software it initially get loaded (for lack of a better term, beer does that...) in the /tmp directory. Now this is only during the unpacking phase and initial installation phase. As Sensei himself found out, a / partition that is to small can lead to the inability to install desired software.

I run a dual disk system. Here is how my partitions are set up:

Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6 14994 1767 13227 12% /
/dev/hdb8 8852 40 8811 0% /BACKUP
/dev/hdb6 4998 49 4949 1% /IMAGES
/dev/hdb7 4998 889 4109 18% /SOFTWARE
/dev/hda5 14 1 12 11% /boot
/dev/hda7 11133 309 10824 3% /home


This will be resized and changed as soon as the `Drake with the 2.4.? kernel and the 2.2 KDE come out. But this will give you an idea... oh and I only run Linux now. Just to explain why you don't see any winders partitions.

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The Dragon is swift and powerful. Beware his wrath...
Honor your family and yourself. Speak not out of passion but out of wisdom and temper the fires of war that reside in you, and you shall then reach your full measure as a man of Honor, Courage and Integrity.
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[henryst]

What is happening? Can't boot? I'm not sure what you did, but you either need to let Mandrake Install LILO or GRUB as your boot loader(but I don't know if it'll KNOW how to boot Whistler). Or, you need Boot Software. I use the Boot Magic(or whatever the name of that thing that comes with Partition Magic).

I am guessing your boot sector working(if Windows don't boot anymore). I'm sure the parition is still there.

Also. Did you RESIZE the original FAT32 parition? Hopefully you didn't lose your Whistler parition....

[bigshooter]

When I partitioned my drive for Mandrake 7.2, I made one partition / . Do you have to create seperate partitions? The "folders?" (since i only made the one partition it creates folders /home /usr /tmp ... for me?) are all on one partition and work the same if i had made partitions for each one? I should probably read the NHF on linux filesystem again, but am too tired. just bought running linux though so maybe it will clear things up. If anyone answers my questions, thanx in advance.

[guitarlyn]

Mandrake uses GRUB for a boot manager. A 10Meg /boot partition is in order. I think it will automatically make it, or older versions actually ran it off the / partition. What screwed me up with that one post was no /swap? Must be one sllooww box!
The box will be much happier with the /swap and /boot and atleast a / partitions.

~Guitarlynn

[bigshooter]

you can use LILO in Mandrake (7.2 at least). You have to choose expert install though.

[Cloak_Linux]

First i made my winders partition fat32 5 gig then when i was creating my linux patitions i try the 'autoallocate' and it created the partition with the (/)(Swap) (/home) mount points no prob there.

The trouble starts when it ask to save the partitons "Error in Swap Area" "Continue at your own risk" and then it give me the error and erase my win32 partion or give me the option of formating either of the 2 patitions.

I choose both of them, and "formating ha5" and it hangs there, reboot no parition.

I'm probably doing something wrong and mandrake is not to blame http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

I could fdisk (linux one) and make my partion but how i do i format them?

Thanks for the help http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Shad]

Did you format and mount your swap partion during the install? Will be most helpfull if you do.


BTW, Making more than just a swap and / partions is just a good practice as it is beeing cautious. /home and /usr/local or /opt is good so that when you upgrade or just plain hose the system, you don't loose all your personal stuff, like user configurations, or that wizbang program you downloaded and compiled yourself. It's not necessary, but will help out in the future.
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Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life

[This message has been edited by Shad (edited 14 January 2001).]

[MkIII_Supra]

Yes I have 256MB of swap, I forgot to post it.....

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The Dragon is swift and powerful. Beware his wrath...
Honor your family and yourself. Speak not out of passion but out of wisdom and temper the fires of war that reside in you, and you shall then reach your full measure as a man of Honor, Courage and Integrity.
http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/MkIIISupra/ (http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/MkIIISupra)

[Cloak_Linux]

Originally posted by Shad:
Did you format and mount your swap partion during the install? Will be most helpfull if you do.


Are you talking to me? If so yes i do create the swap. the rest of the info in my previous post http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

I really need to know what i'm doing wrong, i have alot of win stuff on my other pc and i cant loose any of it http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by Cloak_Linux (edited 14 January 2001).]

[Cloak_Linux]

I'm getting partition magic 5 i think it will solve my partitioning problemes.