Internet Explorer 5 for unix

[JCopin]

http://www.microsoft.com/unix

i dunno if u guys knew this already but microsoft has released a version of IE5 and outlook express 5 for solaris and HP-Unix

just a matter of time till it made for linux.
considering nutscrape navigator blows hairy ball sacks =)

[VRay]

Thx for that, I too am looking forward to ie for linux.

[mastersibn]

Originally posted by JCopin:
http://www.microsoft.com/unix

i dunno if u guys knew this already but microsoft has released a version of IE5 and outlook express 5 for solaris and HP-Unix

just a matter of time till it made for linux.
considering nutscrape navigator blows hairy ball sacks =)
Discarding the usual replies, here's my take on the situation:

IE-nix was made what, two, three years ago? It still only exists for Solaris, and HP-UX, and I doubt it runs under Solaris for the x86. In short, I don't think there's any viable version of IE available for any x86 *nix platform. But hey, even still:

If ballmer is right that Linux represents MS's #1 threat, then we can expect to NEVER see a product that would encourage the adoption of Linux. Furthermore, the only shot in hell that IE ever has it to making it to linux is if, and ONLY if, Microsoft is broken up by the DOJ.


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[pbharris]

i think ie is ****.

[Pleiades]

Originally posted by pbharris:
i think ie is ****.

Compared to what?

[Muzzafarath]

considering nutscrape navigator blows hairy ball sacks =)


If NN sucks so badly, use something else. There are several options. I agree with pbharris, IE is **** (compared to Opera http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/tongue.gif).

Opera (http://www.opera.com)
Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org)
Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org)
Lynx (http://lynx.browser.org/) (Links)

[This message has been edited by Muzzafarath (edited 31 January 2001).]

[elinor]

To which truly comparable options are you referring? Mozilla is all right, Opera is quite pretty, but there is still nothing comparable to Internet Explorer for the Mac or for Windows. The browser remains a constant problem for Linux users.

[CMonster]

I've had just as many problems with IE as any other browser.

All of my Linux Browsers work well, just some don't do certain things like Java (yet), but I've always had good luck with Netscape - even the buggy Netscape6 works fairly well for me. I like Opera but will not pay $40 just for a browser.

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[Forstfed]

I have tried most of the browsers for linux and so far none has come close to IE. I would love IE to be ported over.

[YaRness]

ie gives me the willies. maybe run it behind junkbuster and block microsoft.*, msn.*, etc... but i still don't trust it.

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[Shad]

You can get it to run on linux, but it...is a major vacumn, if you get my drift. Why not use Mozilla, Konqueror, or old reliable NS 4.76.

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[MrNewbie]

Is there any documentation on getting it installed in Linux?

[pbharris]

Originally posted by Pleiades:
Compared to what?




any *NIX browser. lynx, netscape (all versions), mosaic, links, kfm, opera, mozilla, open windows browser (i forget the exact name) . i freaking hate ie. i don't care if you like it. i think it is ****


BTW - I am using ie right now - my sun box and linux PPC boxes are doing stuff and i don't want to bother them till they are done.

[This message has been edited by pbharris (edited 31 January 2001).]

[guitarlyn]

I ran IE once with Wine (and the M$ Office progs). I dunno why, but I wanted to see if Wine would run them.... it does.

~Guitarlynn

[Tiger]

If they do it, and if they do it right, IE for Linux could be a good thing.

Right now there is no reason for anybody to make a decent, full featured browser for Linux. From the point of view of someone with one foot still in both worlds IE left NS in the dust a long time ago. I use Opera and IE on the Winders machine. Opera is a little quicker but you pay for that speed by having to use adware, cough up $40 for non-adware, and dick around installing plug-ins that were designed for NS.

On the Linux side we've got Lynx (come on!), Konqorer, Opera, Mozzilla, Netscprap. None of them ready for prime time. Can anybody honestly, objectively say the Linux browsers are as good as the Windows variants?

If it takes MS doing IE for Linux to push the others to the next level I say great.

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[This message has been edited by Tiger (edited 31 January 2001).]

[Pleiades]

pbharris - I've tried Netscape, but none of the others in Linux. Netscape in RH 6.2 on a Pentium 75 is, I have found, slower than IE 5 in NT Server 4 on the same machine. And IE is readable, although my father downloaded some NS fonts from mandrakeuser.(com,org?) recently, and he says it has made a vast improvement.

I generally find IE to be one of the less annoying M$/NCSA Mosaic products.

BTW - I don't care what you like either.

[veloctTX]

I've never had any problems running IE. I actually like it. At the same time, netscape 4.76 runs fine in linux, some of the Opera settings reset even when I save the changes I made, Mozilla is unstable still, Konqueror is a little sluggish also. But I will say this, linux browsers are making progress and hopefully they will be better as time goes by. BTW, IE6 is in beta now.

[MkIII_Supra]

Opera

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[VRay]

Originally posted by YaRness:
ie gives me the willies. maybe run it behind junkbuster and block microsoft.*, msn.*, etc... but i still don't trust it.



Probably the only company that are bigger scumbags than Microsoft is Netscape. They were the fookers who got busted tracking user downloads, not Microsoft. Be careful of where you place your trust....

[zappy]

IE on Solaris blows. if you want stability use lynx.

[hndpaul]

Discarding the usual tirades of IE being less standards based than probably any other browser and M$ trying to make the browser standards M$ standards...what a world that would be...Linux has some nice browsers! I'm not sure if they are "better" than IE, as much as "different" ;-)

I use Opera and can say that it's faster on my PIII machine than IE ever was. If I run Opera on Windows, IE beats it hands down- but on Linux...no way. Stable, fast and looks good too!! Links is awesome, and IE can't touch it even with graphics turned off.

Basically we should be supporting Linux browsers if only so that they get more popular and developers start moving on new features, bug fixes etc., NOT talking about the merits (are there any apart from speed?) that IE offers/doesn't offer.

BTW- IE5.5 gave me nothing but problems: DNS errors, 404s, locks etc. Not even M$ engineers could fix it for a long time---nice browser eh??

Paul, UK

[vvx]

I think IE is **** myself too. I don't have anything to back it up, however this one thing seems to be true all the time. If you started with NS, you probably don't think it's the scum of the earth like you do if you started with IE. MS was smart, regardless of what's the better browser you're more likely to think the one you're used to is tons better than the competition.. MS by making their browser readily available with their software got a lot of people to start their internet careers using it. Personally, I was on the net before IE existed. However, on that same token, if it's true that you're more likely to believe what you are used to is better, I might be falling victim to that as well, I do think NS is better, however perhaps I'm just used to it..

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[Skroob]

Originally posted by vvx:
I think IE is **** myself too. I don't have anything to back it up, however this one thing seems to be true all the time. If you started with NS, you probably don't think it's the scum of the earth like you do if you started with IE. MS was smart, regardless of what's the better browser you're more likely to think the one you're used to is tons better than the competition.. MS by making their browser readily available with their software got a lot of people to start their internet careers using it. Personally, I was on the net before IE existed. However, on that same token, if it's true that you're more likely to believe what you are used to is better, I might be falling victim to that as well, I do think NS is better, however perhaps I'm just used to it..


Well I was on the net before IE and it took me a long time before I switched to IE from NS. But when I finally gave it a try it was definitely noticebly better(at least from my POV) So I'm not sure it's just conditioning that has caused people to prefer IE to NS. I do think that may be the case for a lot of people, especially those who aren't very tech savy.

[Paul Weaver]

I started off in the days of mosaic, with no table support or anything. I didnt realy use IE until 3.0 beta, and it beat netscape even back then. As for standards, <blink> anyone?

Having said that, now I use mozilla 0.7, which kicks, although I miss some IE features. the annoying popup when you go to a site asking what username you want, where IE has a dropdown box which sometimes works on the form. Oh, and the odd segfault I get with moz, but its still in beta, and dont compare to the illegal exceptions of IE.

Overall, mozilla is great, almost. couple more months and I'll be a happy bunny.

I have got the choice of running IE (I presume I can run it from a sparc box over a network with setenv DISPLAY). I dont though, as theres not much in it.

I do like "block image from loading" in mozilla though.

the big thing I'm waiting for is the ability to turn popups off!

[Paul Weaver]

I started off in the days of mosaic, with no table support or anything. I didnt realy use IE until 3.0 beta, and it beat netscape even back then. As for standards, <blink> anyone?

Having said that, now I use mozilla 0.7, which kicks, although I miss some IE features. the annoying popup when you go to a site asking what username you want, where IE has a dropdown box which sometimes works on the form. Oh, and the odd segfault I get with moz, but its still in beta, and dont compare to the illegal exceptions of IE.

Overall, mozilla is great, almost. couple more months and I'll be a happy bunny.

I have got the choice of running IE (I presume I can run it from a sparc box over a network with setenv DISPLAY). I dont though, as theres not much in it.

I do like "block image from loading" in mozilla though.