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scott_R
01-30-2001, 02:16 AM
I know this sounds crazy to some of you, but I'm tired of not knowing whether debian is easy or hard to use, so I want to install it. What I'm curious about is whether any of you have installed it without a cd. If I understand it right, I should be able to download a couple floppies to start with, then let it download and install from there. I'm stuck with a 56k connect, and i was wondering if I could do this within reason, or if I'm dreaming. Download time isn't a particular issue for me. What I want to know is whether anyone's done it this way before, or if I'm misunderstanding something, as well as whether apt-get has a way of letting a download continue, or whether it has to start from fresh if it disconnects during a large set of downloads. Also, if anyone has any experience on this, how long will my system have to be downloading before i can start using it while it's putting itself together? (I.e., will I have to wait to use bash/X till all the other basic bs is loaded, or is it pretty much ready to go when I install the dozen floppies?)
I really appreciate any and all thoughts (even the complaints) on this. Thanks http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif
Pierre Lambion
01-30-2001, 02:57 AM
I did a no cd install three weeks ago, and I'm on 56K too. It is just fine.
1/ Get some files: root.bin, drivers, base2-2.tgz, a kernel, loadlin .. (just check http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-install-drive for the details)
2/ Boot the kernel with loadlin, you will enter the setup
3/ setup prompts you for an installation method where you can specify sources (ftp/http/cdrom/harddrive). I recommend you check first if your ISP has a local mirror of potato.
4/ select the tasks you need (like xfree core, perl develop, tetex, ...)
5/ necessary files will be downloaded and installed.
Everything went very well in my case. It gave me a light and efficient install. Apt-get has resume capability from what I heard but I never had to experience it myself.
Go ahead, I had the misconception that apt-get was useless without dsl or cable but I was wrong. It is easy and minimize connection time by downloading only what is needed and avoiding you to loose time surfing and looking for the right packages.
Pierre
milanuk
01-30-2001, 11:43 AM
Just a question here... does anyone know of something like a smallish iso image that could be burned to CD that would just have the minimal install on it? kinda like equivalent to the boot floppies, only on a CD? I realize that it would be a bit of a waste of a CD-R, but it would be a good bit easier than farting around w/ multiple floppies, but easier to download and burn than a full binaries-1 iso.
Just an idea,
Monte
X_Entity
01-30-2001, 01:49 PM
Its getting kinda old now but you can dist-upgrade it once its installed
try www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd (http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd)
its designed to be burned on a business card cd-r so its only about 47Mb its also a marvelous way of fixing things when it all goes wrong as it doubles as a recovery disk. possibly the most useful freebie I picked up at london linux expo last year.