DSL connection without modem

[gparr]

I'm using the Mandrake 7.2 distribution. My machine has a Winmodem (for which I'm sorry)that I rarely use anymore since I have a DSL connection. I've been unable to get a DSL connection using the Roaring Penguin PPOE software. It seems that all instructions start with the assumption that I have a working modem and a dial-up account to establish the Linux underpinnings for Internet access. I no longer have a dial-up service, i.e., no phone numbers to call to gain Internet access. Using the assumption that a dial-up account is necessary to get DSL to work, I have no way to test my modem's performance (I've installed the driver from linmodems.org) to make sure it will work and then set up the ppoe/DSL software.

If I haven't already confused everyone, the basic question is, can I set up a DSL connection without first having a dial-up Internet connection established on a working modem? If so, any help would be appreciated. If not, would it be much easier set up the system if I first install a real modem in place of my winmodem (I don't really want to buy one for this one need)? Also, is there some way to "trick" my modem into believing it is connecting to a dial-up connection/server or will I have to obtain a temporary dial-up connection?

Thanks for the help,

Gary

[FyberOptyx]

Check out the HOWTO
HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/index.html)

[bdg1983]

The instructions to which you are referring most likely mean a DSL modem, not that winmodem. Since you have had DSL installed, you should already have some sort of DSL modem that came with the install. Hopefully it's a box that sits between your phone jack and the ethernet card in your computer. It could also be a USB device or PCI card, in which case it might present a problem.

[gparr]

FyberOptyx, thanks. That's a howto I had not found in my searches.

Kuma, I have the standard DSL external modem hooked to a NIC in my machine.

Thanks,

Gary

[compunuts]

Originally posted by gparr:
I've been unable to get a DSL connection using the Roaring Penguin PPOE software.

Okay. Let's make something clear here. PPPoE is a protocol commonly used by some ISPs to trick their end of networking parts to think that you are using PPP thus the term Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet.

It seems that all instructions start with the assumption that I have a working modem and a dial-up account to establish the Linux underpinnings for Internet access.
No it does not. You do not need to have a *working* connection in order to create one with your DSL provider. The line you got from your DSL provider is the line it uses. You do not even need a modem in your computer. The box that your DSL provider give you is a modem that's the Roaring Penguin refer to as the modem. (It's actually is not a modem but rather a bridge/router from Ethernet to ATM).

no phone numbers to call to gain Internet access. Using the assumption that a dial-up account is necessary to get DSL to work,
As I said above, it is just not true. You DO NOT need to have internet connection and in fact that's why you are installing DSL for.

can I set up a DSL connection without first having a dial-up Internet connection established on a working modem?

Yeap Yeap. Threw that sucker (Winmodem) away or sell it cheap on this BBS. :)

1) The first thing you need to make sure is that your DSL line is working and you have no problem connecting to Internet.

2.) Make sure that Linux see your NIC (Network Interface Card) and it's working properly.

3.) Make sure you have RR software up and running in Linux and it's fully configured. Forget about the modem stuff. RR refer modem means it's your DSL Modem.

4.) Make sure you follow all the instruction of your DSL provider on setting up DSL connection.

If you have any more specific questions, please come back here and post again. For now, that would do it. And check those HOW-TOs for internet connection, RR software HOW-TO, DSL HOW-TO and Ethernet HOW-TO from http://www.inuxdoc.org .

HTH