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Antibiotic
01-09-2003, 11:55 PM
Hello everyone!

I'm just wondering if I need to download all 7 cd's that come with that distribution, or can I limit myself to 2 or 3 cd's... I mean, I want to try debian out, but 7 cd's just sound crazy
What is located on them anyway?

Thx

BigFatJoe
01-10-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Antibiotic
Hello everyone!

I'm just wondering if I need to download all 7 cd's that come with that distribution, or can I limit myself to 2 or 3 cd's... I mean, I want to try debian out, but 7 cd's just sound crazy
What is located on them anyway?

Thx

See for yourself:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Debian has a very extensive collection of programs...but don't worry, the installation will not take up 6GB's. It's just that when you need it, Debian has a tool for almost every job (a simple "apt-get install" will install any package, figuring out all dependencies.) The last time, I downloaded Debian .iso's it was still 2.2 (only 3 cds). After that, I've only been doing internet upgrades...no need to reinstall.

The easiest way is to get the minimum to install a base system, and then download any other packages you need.

If you want to buy the cd's, maybe you should check out:
http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/index.php

Except for that, you could just download the first 2 or 3 cds and if need be install any remaining packages from the net (i'm not sure how the woody cd set divides the packages among the 7 cds. its probably on their site, though)

Penrich
01-10-2003, 12:30 AM
I used CD # 5 (bf 2.4) to initiate the boot - this gives you the 2.4 kernel instead of 2.2, as well as more USB and hardware support. Then I needed CD's 1 and 2 after that, to get a pretty complete install. As BigFatJoe pointed out - if anything is missing, just apt-get it later!

Antibiotic
01-10-2003, 01:26 AM
What do you think about net install?

Antibiotic
01-10-2003, 01:34 AM
Also I was wondering is there any general default list of packages that is good for first general installation

BigFatJoe
01-10-2003, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by Antibiotic
What do you think about net install?

http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

What do you need to know about it? I haven't used it, but I do my upgrades using apt-get and my internet (I'm going to make a wild assumption that this is what Debian net install uses). And the base installation is most liekyl universal for all debian installations...its pretty straightforward: fdisk/install root, swap, any other partitions/setup net connection/set up time zone, etc.

^nothing that pops up at you and hits you over the head. The only thing there may be a problem with is X11. But this is usually setup after the install, so you can run xconfig over and over again until you get it right. hmmm..now that i think about it, all this was in 2.2. The installation may have become a lot easier. Maybe I should let someone else speak...

Luck!

BigFatJoe
01-10-2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Antibiotic
Also I was wondering is there any general default list of packages that is good for first general installation

yes there is. if you select "easy install" (after you install the base) it will popup a really simplifed list of packages: really broad (like "X11", "games", "Gnome", etc.) I never liked this because I like more control over my install. Next in line is "dselect" which is default if you choose "advanced". This is also failry straightforward, though it gives you a lot more control. The only problem with dselect is it also has a big amount of "default" packages chosen. The lowest level is exiting the installation and using apt-get.

Antibiotic
01-10-2003, 02:11 AM
Thanks, man, i'm going to try net install now

jetblackz
01-10-2003, 01:43 PM
http://www.knoppix.net/

Or you could get only one CD of Knoppix to try it out without installing anything. If you wish to install it,

http://jetblackz.freeservers.com/InstallingKnoppix31.html
http://jetblackz.freeservers.com/ConfiguringKnoppix31.html