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dungscooperdave
12-18-2002, 12:52 PM
Has anyone actually gotten MS-Word to work in Wine? I'm using the latest wine release (20021125), and I can't figure out how to get it to work. Word loads up fine and everything, but I keep getting that Insufficient memory/Disk is full error message everytime I try to save a file, and saving your work is a pretty important thing, so word is pretty much useless if you can't save your work. :mad:

The_Wounded
12-19-2002, 07:32 AM
Have u ever tried openoffice? t can handle all your MS Office files, it works the same as MS Office and u can save files as MS Office.

ViMan
12-19-2002, 10:41 AM
You could check out Crossover Office (sorry, it's commercial - costs $55 if you're going to download it). For more information about the applications that it supports, check out http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/supported_applications.php If you plan on buying it, you might be interested in trying out Xandros.

What follows are some of the applications supported:

"Microsoft Word 2000
CrossOver Office supports both Word 97 and Word 2000.
Gold
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App Photo Microsoft Excel 2000
CrossOver Office supports Excel 97 and Excel 2000.
Gold
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App Photo Microsoft PowerPoint 2000
CrossOver Office supports Microsoft PowerPoint 2000.
Gold
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App Photo Lotus Notes R5
CrossOver Office supports Lotus Notes R5.
Silver
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App Photo Microsoft Outlook 2000
CrossOver Office supports Microsoft Outlook 97 and 2000.
Silver
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App Photo Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 and 5.5
CrossOver Office supports the Internet Explorer version that ships with Office 2000 as well as the 5.5 standalone version.
Silver
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App Photo Microsoft Visio 2000
Visio is a tool used for creating all manner of business diagrams--network layouts, storyboards and site flows, software entity relationship diagrams, etc.
Silver
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App Photo Intuit Quicken 2002
Quicken is a personal finance software which lets you manage your finances and investments, as well as prepare your taxes.
Silver
-"

ssjf
12-19-2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by The_Wounded
Have u ever tried openoffice? t can handle all your MS Office files, it works the same as MS Office and u can save files as MS Office.

<rant-flame>
He wasn't asking for a workaround/another solution. In some cases, I agree, getting a linux native program is actually a good idea (example: rippers and encoders). I find it really annoying when people (especially linux people) tell people that they have the wrong problem, instead of telling them how to fix it. With a high complexity software package like MS Office, it is very difficult to make a very good replacement - MS Office is pretty good. Don't get me wrong, I use OO. Anyway... with that said, I guess I should probably make some comment related to this thread.
</rant-flame>

It is possible to get pirated versions of Crossover Office, but I didn't tell you that. Also, I don't know what good it is going to do you, because I couldn't get it to even open a window after I finished the install. A big resource for getting programs working is a website Frank's Corner (www.frankscorner.org/wine). Good luck.

dungscooperdave
12-19-2002, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the help guys! Native apps are preferable, but in my situation, MS-Office is what I need. My sister's in law school and is using MS-Office 97. She's currently using Windows, but I was hoping to be able to switch her over to the infinitely more superior Linux over Christmas break. She's used to using MS-Office, so I'd rather try and get that working under Linux right now so that she doesn't have any formatting problems (yes, I have had one or two small ones with Open Office) and also so that she doesn't have to learn anything new. Thanks especially to ssjf for the link to Frank's World. I'll have to check that out and see if it helps me. It looks like it's a fairly decent source of information. Thanks again. :)

dungscooperdave
12-19-2002, 05:52 PM
Does Open Office come with a good replacement for Outlook? If not, what would be a good one to try?

ssjf
12-19-2002, 06:05 PM
Ximian Evolution is a good Outlook replacement - it isn't exactly a clone of Outlook, but it looks somewhat the same, and does the basic email, contacts, tasks, and calendar the same. It's what I am using right now, and it works fine. If you are looking for something just for mail, then I would suggest something a little less bulky - like Kmail, or if you really feel like getting the bare minimum (well, not really) then give mutt a try - it is text based. Sorry I don't have any links for these - try Freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net).

You could... try using both Word and OO at the same time - you will find that quite a lot of things are the same. OO is completely compatable with word format. If you are satisfied with OO then go ahead using it, but for now stick with Wine until you are very sure that you can't get it working.

JjcampNR
12-19-2002, 06:11 PM
I don't know if it's included in the Open Office suite, but Ximian Evolution is getting better and better. I have no problem using it instead of Outlook, although I really only use the mail features, I don't get too deep into the other stuff, but from what I've seen it's definitely fine for most people.

If you want to try and convert your Outlook information to Evolution, they have some built in tools, or you can try Outport, I haven't bothered with either, so I can't offer much information on those. You can check out OutportHERE (http://outport.sourceforge.net/) and Evolution

HERE (http://www.ximian.com/products/desktop/download.html)

Enjoy!

ViMan
12-20-2002, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by ssjf
[B]<rant-flame>
He wasn't asking for a workaround/another solution. In some cases, I agree, getting a linux native program is actually a good idea (example: rippers and encoders). I find it really annoying when people (especially linux people) tell people that they have the wrong problem, instead of telling them how to fix it. With a high complexity software package like MS Office, it is very difficult to make a very good replacement - MS Office is pretty good. Don't get me wrong, I use OO. Anyway... with that said, I guess I should probably make some comment related to this thread.
</rant-flame>

He might not have been asking for a workaround or a Linux equivalent for MS Office, but telling him that there is an equivalent or workaround does no harm, especially as he did not mention in his post that he's given OpenOffice a try or knows of it's existence. Furthermore, I think that most people use only about 10-20% of the capabilities of any software package and that most users can get along well using OpenOffice instead of Word (unless you're into macros, etc.). So telling him that there is an alternative to MS Office shouldn't get you annoyed.

czgu
12-23-2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by dungscooperdave
Has anyone actually gotten MS-Word to work in Wine? I'm using the latest wine release (20021125), and I can't figure out how to get it to work. Word loads up fine and everything, but I keep getting that Insufficient memory/Disk is full error message everytime I try to save a file, and saving your work is a pretty important thing, so word is pretty much useless if you can't save your work. :mad:
Yes I did. I can use wine to run MSword.

dungscooperdave
12-23-2002, 07:03 PM
And...........
How did you get it to work? That is, what release of Wine were you using and did you have to do anything special to get it to work?

ssjf
12-28-2002, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by ViMan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ssjf
[B]<rant-flame>
He wasn't asking for a workaround/another solution. In some cases, I agree, getting a linux native program is actually a good idea (example: rippers and encoders). I find it really annoying when people (especially linux people) tell people that they have the wrong problem, instead of telling them how to fix it. With a high complexity software package like MS Office, it is very difficult to make a very good replacement - MS Office is pretty good. Don't get me wrong, I use OO. Anyway... with that said, I guess I should probably make some comment related to this thread.
</rant-flame>

He might not have been asking for a workaround or a Linux equivalent for MS Office, but telling him that there is an equivalent or workaround does no harm, especially as he did not mention in his post that he's given OpenOffice a try or knows of it's existence. Furthermore, I think that most people use only about 10-20% of the capabilities of any software package and that most users can get along well using OpenOffice instead of Word (unless you're into macros, etc.). So telling him that there is an alternative to MS Office shouldn't get you annoyed.

Sorry :rolleyes: ... bad day.

dungscooperdave
12-28-2002, 10:45 AM
lol
ya
It happens. :D