Modem 'No Carrier' problem

[plantiful]

System is a PII-400, 128 Mb, Intel Ham modem running Red hat 8.0. I had this system working fine under Red Hat 7.1.

I am trying to connect to MSN (I know....), but the my modem keeps hanging up on the carrier, then complains about "No Carrier" and stops. Under minicom, the modem hangs up after 8 seconds. Under KPPP, the modem dials, the initial squeal of the connection process begins, then abruptly ends. There is no noise on the line.

With the *70, in front of the ISP Tel. # (to cancel the call waiting signal), the squeal is not heard, so it seems like a time-related issue, but I have all of the time settings found in the KPPP setup set to max.

Any suggestions as to why this may be occurring, and any possible suggestions to fix it?

I believe that I have the pap-secrets file setup correctly, but I do not think that it is even getting that far.

Thanks

[JP83]

Using kppp try to change between PAP and CHAP + maybe line termination(?) setting.

[hlrguy]

I have never known anyone to connect to MSN natively in Linux. I think some have used WINE and a windows dialer. My only experience was when I was asking if I could connect using Linux ($400 rebates we all remember). They were LESS than cordial and helpful when I told them I will NEVER use windows, I wanted to know how to connect in Linux. At one point I asked them if they were an ISP or a front end to Microsoft Head Office. No meaningful reply. I suspect you are hosed. Maybe, just maybe, you can call their tech support and 'bluff' your way though. Extoll the virtues of windows, say you love it and will always use it for browsing, but for your work, you HAVE to connect accasionally using Linux for a proprietary program that must only run/connect in Linux.

hlrguy

I did a google search and never found anyone with success. I found a lot of hits just like yours though.

[plantiful]

MSN uses PAP authentication, and all of the defaults from my setup on RH7.1 worked (I lost the drive, thus I upgraded to RH8.0). I was able to connect to MSN, from Linux, for several months without a problem.

If I have 'No Carrier,' then the rest of the setup files are irrelevent, right?

[JerryW]

My ISP uses a MS server and I went round and round about two months ago
trying to get a connection set up. Maybe the same route will work for
you when trying to dial-up MSN.
First, I did all this using the command line interface. I don't know
if there might be differences trying to do this using a GUI, that's for
you to find out.
I had pretty much the same symptoms you mentioned when I first started
out. The line would hang up after a few seconds. Here is the 'pppscript'
file in my /etc/ppp directory. The location of your files may be
slightly different depending on your distro.
=======================
TIMEOUT 30
ABORT ERROR
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
"" "AT&FH0S95=46"
OK "atdt2968883"
TIMEOUT 75
CONNECT "CLIENT"
============================
The important line is the last one that says "CLIENT". This is what
begins the MS server login routine. (That's the line that had me
banging my head against the wall for three weeks)
After that begins the 'options' file takes over (it's in the same
directory).
========================
lock
defaultroute
noipdefault
modem
/dev/ttyS2
38400
crtscts
passive
default-asyncmap
# -pap
-chap
user myusername
=================================
Note that I'm using CHAP authentication, and that I'm using a slow
modem so you'll want to change those entries. The entry for
'myusername' should match the name shown in your PAP secrets file.
I hope this gets you further along. Good luck.

[plantiful]

JerryW:

Thanks. I will try the pppscript file suggestions. I do not know if the RH7.1 setup I had required that file. I also do not know if the computer is actually making a complete connection with the MSN modem, though, since it hangs up. I will let you know how it goes.

Also, the username format is MSN/username. Will this have to be written as MSN//username in the pap-secrets file?

[adikgede]

See this thread (http://www.linuxnewbie.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=78411)

I purchased the same modem yesterday because it was written up in a local Linux mag (http://www.infolinux.web.id) However the the one that the magaze was different than mine. However half anhour rooting around on google and I was able to find this driver Intel-v92ham-453.tgz

ag

[plantiful]

I downloaded the new driver, Intel-v92ham-453-RH80.tgz. After unpacking, I tried to 'make install'. It came back with an "error loading hamcore" after everything else went fine.

I tried an 'insmod -f hamcore.o', and it complains that 'module named hamcore already present'. I looked at 'lsmod'. There is a hamcore there, but it is listed as deleted.

[JohnT]

Try

modprobe hamcore

[plantiful]

modprobe hamcore showed
no module hamcore

I reinstalled the driver, and all is well.

Hi thanks for your help-- I ran linuxconf-1.29r3, it fixed some files, and everything works-- there may have been some damage from a previous attempt. I have full CONNECT. I just have to go through the sequence to get online. I've been there before, and it works.

Thanks.