Citrix??

[mandreko]

I was at a Discount Tires store getting tires for my POS car... and I was looking at their computers cause they were showing me prices, and i saw this somewhat-familiar login prompt...

I started asking questions... and found out they're running Citrix... i found it interesting that a tire store was running a UNIX variant, but i was wondering where i could find out more about it... i've done some searches but haven't found much...

[CMonster]

We have some Citrix servers at work (Los Angeles Dept. of Water and Power) and I am less than enthusiastic.
www.citrix.com (http://www.citrix.com)

[mandeep]

So this is the "orange" in the Apples to Oranges comparison? Hehehe...

It's a joke. Come on, laugh.

[iDxMan]

Its like a tangerine gone bad.. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

We have an orange box at work too.. At least I don't have to use it.

(edit: BTW, I believe we use the Winframe product)

-r


[This message has been edited by iDxMan (edited 07 January 2001).]

[mangeli]

Originally posted by CMonster:
We have some Citrix servers at work (Los Angeles Dept. of Water and Power) and I am less than enthusiastic.
www.citrix.com (http://www.citrix.com)


We're looking at citrix. Email me mark.angeli@seiz.com

I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Mark

[chadm1967]

We used to use Citrix where I work but have since switched to Solaris (still kind of comparing apples to oranges). So far, the folks that use it really like it. They were happy to get rid of Citrix.

[Inferno]

The citrix MetaFrame is also used on windows. I used to work at a helpdesk and our new call logging tool was run over citrix. All we had on the desktop computers was the citrix login program and the call loging tool was run through citrix on the server.

Maybe the server was Unix, but we were running winNT on the desktop computers.

[This message has been edited by Inferno (edited 07 January 2001).]

[drstrangelove]

It seems a lot of you don't dig citrix?
Well we use it at work and it's pretty cool...
It is a hell of a lot faster than using Exceed though...
I run citrix at home to connect to our solaris server. It is ungodly fast...
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much faster than exceed.

[mdwatts]

We also have one at work. Just installed the Citrix Client for Linux. Works great.

[Inferno]

I am sure citrix is great but when you are running it on winNT and someone keeps uploading info to the server it is NOT a great program.

[mandreko]

is it my understanding that citrix is a centralized server, and it just sends info to other machines, be them windows or linux? you don't use a citrix workstation?

[pointreyes]

Vile, evil, invention to enforce you to be assimilated into BORG. Where I work, I'm being forced (along with hundreds of others) to accept the fact that we are all merely of the same of mold and therefore have a client to use in the same mold. Citrix has a low tco but the cost-benefit to the user is completely overlooked - man am I getting mad. Better stop now before I blowup. Control, control, control - that is what the Citrix is for; not for people that want to make their jobs easier. No more coding for me allowed. No more listening to music CDs unless I buy a CD player and the batteries - no, I cannot recharge the batteries or plug the CD player into the electrical plug-in at work because I'm using energy! aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

[This message has been edited by pointreyes (edited 09 January 2001).]

[FoBoT]

hey, mandreko, i tried to email you about citrix, but it bounced, if you are still interested, email me

[Pleiades]

We use Citrix at work, and it's pretty slow. My understanding is that we don't run enough servers, too many users logged on at once, you type a sentence in a word doc, go get a coffee, and when you get back, it should be on screen (sentence, not coffee). Internet is painfull, and weird **** happens all over the place.

This would never happen anywhere else, of course, because management would have the foresight to provide plenty of overhead for growth. Wouldn't they?

[nakedpants]

Dude, who manages your Citrix servers??!?!?!? Citrix is absolutly a fantastic product and what is even cooler is NFuse which allows users to run apps thru any web browser including Konquorer, Mozilla, etc. Yes, I know it has to run on an NT server running terminal services, but it's a great product that saves a lot of our customers tons of money. There is nothing better then running Office 2000 apps on a 486 with 8 MB of RAM.

All it is, is a your most basic client server solution where your end users only get screen dumps like a dumb terminal. Metaframe XP has a lot of new features like load balancing which makes it even more stable in an enterprise environment.

I know I'm on a Linux board, but don't knock Citrix....it's the closest thing to putting MS out of business!!!!

[chikn]

Citrix rules!! Whoever said citrix was slow must have been on a really bad implementation. Ive ran remotes with 20 clients with Citrix and an 128k ISDN connection very smooth I might add. Im also in the middle of implementing citrix into my current place of work where PC's just make no sense. With ICA a good switched 100mb network, sound streams are good, get 1024x768 resolution at 16bit, and full access to peripherals.

For remote sites Citrix is without a doubt the best tachnology to use short of well programed web based web applications. And as someone has already mentioned you can deliver applications through the browser with NFUSE (which is a little flaky to date if you ask me)

Citrix + thin terminal clients (Winterms:) is a Admins dream job. You never even have to get up off your ***.

[chikn]

Originally posted by nakedpants


All it is, is a your most basic client server solution where your end users only get screen dumps like a dumb terminal.


Lets explain that more clearly. RDP sends entire screen updates, ICA sends updates to only the part of the screen that has changed along with its compression which results in much less latency and faster movements than RDP. RDP on a good switched network is more than acceptable and ICA is vastly preffered over slower connections and larger implementations. Although I app/term serve for some companies that run only RDP over the internet with an almost sitting in front of the actual server speed.

[mdwatts]

Originally posted by nakedpants
Dude, who manages your Citrix servers??!?!?!? Citrix is absolutly a fantastic product and what is even cooler is NFuse which allows users to run apps thru any web browser including Konquorer, Mozilla, etc. Yes, I know it has to run on an NT server running terminal services, but it's a great product that saves a lot of our customers tons of money. There is nothing better then running Office 2000 apps on a 486 with 8 MB of RAM.

All it is, is a your most basic client server solution where your end users only get screen dumps like a dumb terminal. Metaframe XP has a lot of new features like load balancing which makes it even more stable in an enterprise environment.

I know I'm on a Linux board, but don't knock Citrix....it's the closest thing to putting MS out of business!!!!

Did you notice this thead is nearly 18 months old?

Gotta love the pricing of the Metaframe XP.:mad: :mad:

[chikn]

Originally posted by mdwatts


Did you notice this thead is nearly 18 months old?

Gotta love the pricing of the Metaframe XP.:mad: :mad:

I did, I like the old thread ressurection, this one even before my time...:cool:

And XP pricing surpasses that of microsoft, what is it around 6k for 20 users, If I only had 20 users Id stick with RDP. You still have to get microsoft client access licenses using XP so your double licensing yourself to run a Win 2k terminal. The microsoft world of licensing sucks.

And if youve played much with XDMCP and remote xsessions I think linux can run away with that one if the applications support increases. I find it faster than and less laggy on slower connections than RDP.

[Joe Strummer]

I use Citrix at work and home from Windows clients and Linux clients.

It's far better than Terminal Services (sold to MS from Citrix as Citrix "Lite") and better than other similar solutions that don't support FTP or remote admin. The nFuse apps are UNGODLY fast -- even over modest pipes and modems.

It does lower Total TCO as it allows you to keep older hardware in the mix rather than blowing your budget on new machines and drives every 2.5 years.

Try the Linux client - it's a free download.

Just my .02 - cheers,

Joe

[jdctx]

citrix bad !!!

Here's the problem I've seen with it

Keep in mind this was 2 years ago so many things have changed.

1. If the citrix crashes. If you have nt or other variant on Windows I guarnatee you it will. Those of course would affect the everyone logged on to server.

2. Fast sure it's fast so long as no one else is using it.

I can still hear the help desk called ringing in my ear. " I can't logon", "my computer's frozen"," what happened to my profile","where are my files"

UGLY

[Joe Strummer]

Jcdtx,

... then the Citrix server you were using was poorly configured or underpowered.

I work in Point of Sale systems and we have Clients who make a million dollars a day using Citrix and the most of the end users don't even realize that the program is not running locally.

Incredibly robust, rock solid, cost effective, etc....I think the confusion lies in the fact that Citrix will run only as well as the server it's loaded upon runs.

Sorry, but some things that run on Windows DO run well. Citrix is one of them.

Joe