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gianfranko
01-23-2001, 11:41 PM
I want to know who out there has the fastest hard disk. Please no RAID 0. I am talking about a single drive. Can you please include size (GB), RPM, seek time (ms), SCSI?

also please give me the output of hdparm -t
and if you have a SCSI drive please provide which controller.

Spawn
01-23-2001, 11:42 PM
I don't know about the seek time or what you called it, but mine is a 45GB with something like 7400 RPM or so. It came with my Dell Pc.

gianfranko
01-23-2001, 11:58 PM
what output does hdparm -t give you?

mindwarp
01-24-2001, 01:03 AM
gianfranko - next time post this in hardware support.

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Ryeker
01-24-2001, 04:02 AM
Did one little test. Pentium 166MMX. 32MB RAM. Slackware 7.1. Promise ATA/66 controller. Western Digital Expert 7200RPM 18.2GB drive w/2MB cache.

hdparm -t reports between 14MB to 15MB. That's using all the special tweaks from hdparm. Without those tweaks, I was getting around 11MB to 13MB.

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MkIII_Supra
01-24-2001, 09:52 AM
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM UDMA-66 with hdparm tweaks:
[root@dt0d3n44 mac]# hdparm -t /dev/hdb
/dev/hda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.29 seconds = 27.95 MB/sec


[root@dt0d3n44 mac]# hdparm -T /dev/hdb
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.98 seconds =130.61 MB/sec


Quantum Fireball 27GB 7200RPM UDMA-66 with hdparm tweaks:
[root@dt0d3n44 mac]# hdparm -T /dev/hda
/dev/hdb:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.50 seconds = 18.29 MB/sec

[root@dt0d3n44 mac]# hdparm -T /dev/hdb
/dev/hdb:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.02 seconds =125.49 MB/sec

Not to shabby, but I think I should be able to get a little bit faster data speed.... I dunno!

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plasmid
01-24-2001, 10:19 AM
try going with an IBM drive. I have a 45GB 7200 RPM drive that really rocks. I'm away from my machine right now, but after work, I will try and remember to put up the results from hdparm. If I remember correctly, I was getting right arround 33MB per second (from disk, not cache) and was doing the benchmark in just under 2 seconds (Think it was right arround 1.9 seconds for the transfer). I will try to get official numbers for you later today...but you can't go wrong with IBM.

-plasmid

p.s. stay away from Western Digital...they have poor transfer times, and they tend to die in about 2.5 - 3 years

bkurt
01-24-2001, 12:02 PM
I wouldn't go that far on the wester digital drives. They always get good reviews and have been known as one of the best drives for awhile now. Ibms are very good I won't doubt that, but western digitals are very good drives too. The last time I checked IBM actually made western digital drives. But I would have to give the speed race to IBM drives they do smoke.

Gweedo
01-24-2001, 01:05 PM
All harddrives must bow to the Seagate line. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif

I love the Segate Cheetah's. Plus Seagate drives are work horses.

gmoreno
01-24-2001, 01:14 PM
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.87 seconds = 4.03 MB/sec
7200 RPMs

gmoreno
01-24-2001, 01:25 PM
MkIII_Supra I got the same HD you got. How did you tweak it. I have a K5-166MHZ so maybe that has to do with that.

gmoreno
01-24-2001, 01:25 PM
MkIII_Supra I got the same HD you got. How did you tweak it. I have a K5-166MHZ so maybe that has to do with that.

drmbb
01-24-2001, 04:51 PM
I have my Linux install on a Maxtor 20Gb, 7200rpm, UDMA66 drive. My hdparm settings are -c1 -d1 -X66 -k1, and I get 114.29Mb/sec with hdparm -T.

gianfranko
01-24-2001, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by MkIII_Supra:
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM UDMA-66 with hdparm tweaks:
[root@dt0d3n44 mac]# hdparm -t /dev/hdb
/dev/hda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.29 seconds = 27.95 MB/sec




now that is pretty fast for an IDE drive. How comes we didnt get any SCSI interfaces?

My HD is a Fujitsu 18.2GB 10000RPM and it runs kind of slow compared to the one mentioned above. I thought this was the case, and I wanted to confirm it.

gianfranko
01-24-2001, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by mindwarp:
gianfranko - next time post this in hardware support.

Mindwarp



sorry man, I thought there wasnt going to be a problem if I posted it here in General Linux Questions

Shad
01-24-2001, 06:36 PM
Western Digital's use IBM platters, but contain thier own electronics. Rarely is there a problem with the platters, so the question is: do you trust WD to produce quality Electronics?

Anecdotal evidence: Everyone I have talked with that has had a HDD fail within the last five years, it has been a WD, myself included. The ones I can verify because of the nature of my tech support job, were likely Maxtors or WDs. Take it for what it is worth. My IBM 20.5gig 23mb Cache gets about 18mb/s, while the slave 30.5 gig Maxtor gets 13mb/s though it is stuck in PIO mode. These both reside on a UDMA/33 though it does use a UDMA/66 80 conductor cable.

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MkIII_Supra
01-24-2001, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by gmoreno:
MkIII_Supra I got the same HD you got. How did you tweak it. I have a K5-166MHZ so maybe that has to do with that.

Check it out Here! http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif (http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014348.html)



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plasmid
01-24-2001, 08:21 PM
here are the results I promised from hdparm -t on my 45GB IBM 7200 RPM Drive

64 MB in 1.85 seconds = 34.59 MB/sec

Pretty fast huh?

-plasmid

plasmid
01-24-2001, 08:25 PM
just in case you want to know, here are the buffer-cache speeds from hdparm -T

128 MB in 0.91 seconds = 140.66 MB/sec

like I said...IBM is the way to go.

-plsamid

The King Ant
01-24-2001, 08:38 PM
These are the fastest out of 5 tries for each (-t and -T):

[root@diverge mark]# /sbin/hdparm -t /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.88 seconds = 34.04 MB/sec

[root@diverge mark]# /sbin/hdparm -T /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.83 seconds = 69.95 MB/sec


The drive is an IBM 36GB Ultrastar 18LZX, Ultra160 HDD, 10,000RPM, 4.9 ms average seek, 4MB buffer (07N3200). It's SCSI.

The SCSI card is an Adaptec 29160, Ultra 160/LVD


And for an old Western Digital 3 gig, IDE, 5400rpm Caviar:

[root@diverge /root]# /sbin/hdparm -t /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 6.96 seconds = 9.20 MB/sec


[root@diverge /root]# /sbin/hdparm -T /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.85 seconds = 69.19 MB/sec

Neither drive is tweaked in any way. Kernel 2.4.0 It's strang that my buffer-cache times are the same for both drives...

[This message has been edited by The King Ant (edited 24 January 2001).]

Xprotocol
01-24-2001, 10:07 PM
Gweedo mentioned Cheatas. From what I've heard these are some of the fastest HDs out there. I haven't tried one myself but I guess they really fly http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif. I know the RPM speed is 10,000 for most drives but I don't know anything about seek times or stuff like that. They're expensive but I would defenately check them out if you're considering a wicked fast HD.


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Ryeker
01-25-2001, 01:55 AM
IBM did manufacture a few Western Digital drives before. I believe the WD Expert line was made by IBM, completely. I have one of those drives, and a number of IBM drives. They are completely identical.

Also, I though hdparm only worked with EIDE drives?

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Derango
01-25-2001, 08:00 AM
/dev/hda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.36 seconds = 19.05 MB/sec
[root@bob jason]# hdparm -T /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.10 seconds =116.36 MB/sec


It's a IBM deskstar 20GB hard drive running at 7200 RPM and connected on a UDMA/66 controller (on the motherboard)

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The King Ant
01-26-2001, 10:16 PM
hdparm edits a lot of settings for IDE drives, and I don't think there are any major settings for SCSI drives. But I guess it can benchmark both.

From the hdparm man page:
"Although this utility is intended primarily for use with (E)IDE hard disk devices, several of the options are also valid (and permitted) for use with SCSI hard disk devices and MFM/RLL hard disks with XT interfaces."

WRATHLON
01-27-2001, 05:31 PM
Quantum 10 K 2 4.7 ms 10,000 rpm
spanks my maxtor ata 100 something awful

PLBlaze
01-27-2001, 11:15 PM
IDE:

blazebox kernel: PDC20267: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 60
blazebox kernel: PDC20267: chipset revision 2
blazebox kernel: PDC20267: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later
blazebox kernel: PDC20267: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode.
blazebox kernel: ide2: BM-DMA at 0x8400-0x8407, BIOS settings: hde http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/biggrin.gifMA, hdf http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/biggrin.gifMA
blazebox kernel: ide3: BM-DMA at 0x8408-0x840f, BIOS settings: hdg http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/tongue.gifio, hdh http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/biggrin.gifMA
blazebox kernel: hde: IBM-DJNA-372200, ATA DISK drive
blazebox kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
blazebox kernel: ide2 at 0x9800-0x9807,0x9402 on irq 11
blazebox kernel: hde: 44150400 sectors (22605 MB) w/1966KiB Cache, CHS=43800/16/63, UDMA(66)
blazebox kernel: Partition check:
blazebox kernel: hde: [PTBL] [2748/255/63] hde1 hde2 hde3 hde4
blazebox kernel: JFS development version: $Name: v0_1_4 $

root@blazebox:~# hdparm -Tt /dev/hde

/dev/hde:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.90 seconds =142.22 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.74 seconds = 17.11 MB/sec

SCSI:

blazebox kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
blazebox kernel: (scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra2 SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/11/0
blazebox kernel: (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 32/255 SCBs
blazebox kernel: (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 392 instructions downloaded
blazebox kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.2.1/5.2.0
blazebox kernel: <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra2 SCSI host adapter>
blazebox kernel: (scsi0:0:6:0) Synchronous at 80.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 63.
blazebox kernel: Vendor: IBM Model: DDYS-T36950N Rev: S80D
blazebox kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03
blazebox kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at
scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
blazebox kernel: SCSI device sda: 71687340 512-byte hdwr sectors (36704 MB)
blazebox kernel: sda: sda1 sda2

root@blazebox:/dev# hdparm -Tt /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.90 seconds =142.22 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.84 seconds = 34.78 MB/sec

pipe
01-28-2001, 12:08 AM
hdparm -t /dev/hde

Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.02 seconds = 31.68 MB/sec


hdparm -T /dev/hde

Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.98 seconds =130.61 MB/sec

Maxtor 30gig 7200 ata100 on Promise Ultra100.

Plasmid is that an IBM GXP? I was about to get one of those when this Maxtor went on sale for $99. The IBM was going for ~$175 (local retail)

Craig McPherson
01-28-2001, 12:18 AM
Bah... only 19MB/sec here.

I believe the IBM Deskstar series is the fastest IDE hard drive series around, in terms of overall performance. You can't get an IDE drive faster than 7200RPM, but the Deskstar has lower seek times and a larger cache than any of the other 7200RPM drives I've looked at.

For SCSI, I think the fastest are the Atlas 10K and the Seagate Cheetah series... last I knew. Correct me if I'm wrong.

pipe
01-28-2001, 01:00 AM
Right on, Craig. That is the IBM Deskstar 75GXP (http://www.storagereview.com/map/lm.cgi/DTLA-307045).

manual_overide
01-28-2001, 03:20 AM
I have a 45 gig IBM Deskstar 75GXP and a 20 gig Quantum Fireball KX. Both are 7200 rpm and are attached to a Promise ATA100 controller. The Quantum will only do ATA-66, but is still a fast drive. Although, it doesn't even compare to the IBM drive.

I can't give actual system times, because I am running Windows http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif and I don't know of a utility to check that.

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/cool.gif Deskstar http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/cool.gif

[This message has been edited by manual_overide (edited 28 January 2001).]