ECartman
10-16-2002, 08:05 PM
is slackware easier to install than debian?
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demian
10-16-2002, 08:09 PM
You'll be the judge.
ECartman
10-16-2002, 08:17 PM
well, I have tryed debian unsuccessfully and am wondering if it is worth trying slackware or if I should stay in the mandrake/red hat world for a little while longer.
mr orion77
10-16-2002, 08:20 PM
i bought linux format and it has debian 3.0. i thought woooeee lets get home. and guess what. i got the wrong one. two cd's but with kylix and some apps i dont want. grrrrr. now its another six quid for the dvd.:(
mo699898
10-16-2002, 08:29 PM
i *sniff* am a complete noob.
i tried to install debian.
i tried slackware.
i tried 5 other distros
i got two to work:
mandrake
slackware 8.1
slackware is hella better than mandrake...go with slackware
its kinda a tough install but its worth it. if you need some help installing it email me
i tried to install debian.
i tried slackware.
i tried 5 other distros
i got two to work:
mandrake
slackware 8.1
slackware is hella better than mandrake...go with slackware
its kinda a tough install but its worth it. if you need some help installing it email me
ECartman
10-16-2002, 08:50 PM
so slackware is easier to install?
sharth
10-16-2002, 09:25 PM
with debian, its quite simple.
Know what your hardware is though. And don't expect everything to work immedietly. Debian is not for a newbie who wants everythign to work. Debian is for a newbie who has a month to waste before they get xwindows. but then again, it was fun to learn and configure debain. Its through the trial and error that i know how to use command line.
The install is easy, its just not intuitive. Debian is made by volunteers only. that means nobody is paid to make anyone like it. if the developers like it, then they are happy. There is a progeny installer out there (dunno how to get it in the installer though, there are instructions somewhere).
uhmm where was i going with this...
oh yeah. with the security. its quite easy to keep debian stable. when you install, it will ask if you want to add the security patches to apt. if you answer yes, it adds this line to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free. then run a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y and everything is updated. quite simple.
Also, the problems (security holes) listed there are security holes in EVERY distro that uses these files. Debian just keeps everything open. but if you click on any of the bugs, then you will get a downloadable file to fix it (or use above method).
I haven't tried slack so i can't compare, but I can do a net-install (download everything that is installed from the internet) in about an hour. if i have everything already downloaded, i could probalby install in about 20 mintues or so. configuration of everything would be about a day or so because I still don't have my kernel config memorized.
Know what your hardware is though. And don't expect everything to work immedietly. Debian is not for a newbie who wants everythign to work. Debian is for a newbie who has a month to waste before they get xwindows. but then again, it was fun to learn and configure debain. Its through the trial and error that i know how to use command line.
The install is easy, its just not intuitive. Debian is made by volunteers only. that means nobody is paid to make anyone like it. if the developers like it, then they are happy. There is a progeny installer out there (dunno how to get it in the installer though, there are instructions somewhere).
uhmm where was i going with this...
oh yeah. with the security. its quite easy to keep debian stable. when you install, it will ask if you want to add the security patches to apt. if you answer yes, it adds this line to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free. then run a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y and everything is updated. quite simple.
Also, the problems (security holes) listed there are security holes in EVERY distro that uses these files. Debian just keeps everything open. but if you click on any of the bugs, then you will get a downloadable file to fix it (or use above method).
I haven't tried slack so i can't compare, but I can do a net-install (download everything that is installed from the internet) in about an hour. if i have everything already downloaded, i could probalby install in about 20 mintues or so. configuration of everything would be about a day or so because I still don't have my kernel config memorized.
Elijah
10-16-2002, 09:40 PM
I've tried slack and installed fine, I've managed to get the gui running but some of my hardware(printer,sound) isn't working yet.
I'm still installing Debian Woody and having quite a hard time, there are too many options to choose from. If sharth says that it will take me a month to get used to this ... well , maybe soon I'll give it another try.
I've just recently tried out Lycoris .... Ewww! it looks like XP and it defaults with your firewall turned off, went to grc.com and found my BIOS is exposed. Oh, well I turned the firewall on anyways. at least the gui looks good, like that 'crayon' os out there
I'm still installing Debian Woody and having quite a hard time, there are too many options to choose from. If sharth says that it will take me a month to get used to this ... well , maybe soon I'll give it another try.
I've just recently tried out Lycoris .... Ewww! it looks like XP and it defaults with your firewall turned off, went to grc.com and found my BIOS is exposed. Oh, well I turned the firewall on anyways. at least the gui looks good, like that 'crayon' os out there
devurandomguy
10-16-2002, 09:53 PM
Linux is linux.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
demian
10-16-2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by devurandomguy
Linux is linux.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
<mod: -4, Troll>
Linux is linux.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
<mod: -4, Troll>
ECartman
10-16-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by devurandomguy
Linux is linux.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
hmmmm...someone gets the assh*le award today.
I had a problem with the install in debian when it was configuring the video, i didn't feal like or have the time right now to work through it so I gave up.
I hope you were kidding, otherwise you must be a very unhappy fellow. In my experience the only people that would seriously make a comment like that are people who try and pride themselve on their intelligence (usually incorrectly), because it is the only thing they have.
Linux is linux.
I dont see how you can fail to install Slackware or Debian .. maybe you're an idiot, I dunno.
I hear that Mac's are good for people such as yourself.
hmmmm...someone gets the assh*le award today.
I had a problem with the install in debian when it was configuring the video, i didn't feal like or have the time right now to work through it so I gave up.
I hope you were kidding, otherwise you must be a very unhappy fellow. In my experience the only people that would seriously make a comment like that are people who try and pride themselve on their intelligence (usually incorrectly), because it is the only thing they have.
kemical
10-16-2002, 11:00 PM
if you guys spend a month installing debian then you could possibly be eligable for a gentoo install.
www.gentoo.org, the install doc is excellent, it even has a desktop configuration guid to get your x windows started and configured properly.
www.gentoo.org, the install doc is excellent, it even has a desktop configuration guid to get your x windows started and configured properly.
crow2icedearth2
02-22-2004, 09:27 PM
well debain is alittle more confusing due to dselect . dont use dselect to install a fresh new system. i found out the hard way. it has conflicting errors even thou its dpkg-* backend.
i have had alot of luck using apt-get to install deb packages.
i have been a longtime slackware user for 4 years. and have not had a problem installing slackware. Debain install problem was post install problems with dselect. not debain.
i love both debian and slackware. Im not a big redhat fan. its ok. and mandrake havnt used in 5 + years
i have had alot of luck using apt-get to install deb packages.
i have been a longtime slackware user for 4 years. and have not had a problem installing slackware. Debain install problem was post install problems with dselect. not debain.
i love both debian and slackware. Im not a big redhat fan. its ok. and mandrake havnt used in 5 + years
sharth
02-22-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by crow2icedearth2
well debain is alittle more confusing due to dselect . dont use dselect to install a fresh new system. i found out the hard way. it has conflicting errors even thou its dpkg-* backend.
i have had alot of luck using apt-get to install deb packages.
i have been a longtime slackware user for 4 years. and have not had a problem installing slackware. Debain install problem was post install problems with dselect. not debain.
i love both debian and slackware. Im not a big redhat fan. its ok. and mandrake havnt used in 5 + years this is a 2 year old thread.
well debain is alittle more confusing due to dselect . dont use dselect to install a fresh new system. i found out the hard way. it has conflicting errors even thou its dpkg-* backend.
i have had alot of luck using apt-get to install deb packages.
i have been a longtime slackware user for 4 years. and have not had a problem installing slackware. Debain install problem was post install problems with dselect. not debain.
i love both debian and slackware. Im not a big redhat fan. its ok. and mandrake havnt used in 5 + years this is a 2 year old thread.
jrbishop79
02-22-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by sharth
this is a 2 year old thread.
but it's new to some of us.... This guy just sved me the effort of having to search for this thread....
this is a 2 year old thread.
but it's new to some of us.... This guy just sved me the effort of having to search for this thread....
sharth
02-22-2004, 10:46 PM
generally, most of this has been merged into the which distro thread over in /dev/random.
also, in about a week or so, a new section of the forum will be opened that is going to be devoted to this topic. (which distro and most likely distro comparisons).
I dunno, if the thread helped you, then coolies. but there really wasn't that much interesting stuff in it anywho (least in my opinion...)
also, in about a week or so, a new section of the forum will be opened that is going to be devoted to this topic. (which distro and most likely distro comparisons).
I dunno, if the thread helped you, then coolies. but there really wasn't that much interesting stuff in it anywho (least in my opinion...)
mr orion77
03-07-2004, 01:23 PM
omg this is an ancient thread, even more amusing is i read my post and thought, what an idiot buying the wrong cd's and its me :D
i bought linux format and it has debian 3.0. i thought woooeee lets get home. and guess what. i got the wrong one. two cd's but with kylix and some apps i dont want. grrrrr. now its another six quid for the dvd.
that is dated sept 2002, debian 4 isnt even out yet, thats bloody awful.
i bought linux format and it has debian 3.0. i thought woooeee lets get home. and guess what. i got the wrong one. two cd's but with kylix and some apps i dont want. grrrrr. now its another six quid for the dvd.
that is dated sept 2002, debian 4 isnt even out yet, thats bloody awful.
bandwidth_pig
03-08-2004, 08:40 PM
This is like the fifth time I have got ready to reply to this like it's a new thread. :D
Such a tempting topic.
Such a tempting topic.
Megatron X
03-20-2004, 12:24 PM
I would like to know what package manager does Debian have/use (Portage = Gentoo, RedHat = RPM, etc.)?
bandwidth_pig
03-20-2004, 12:48 PM
Debian = apt
sharth
03-20-2004, 08:29 PM
well, dpkg.
although apt is a front end to dpkg, it has also been ported to be a frontend to slackware's tgz packages and red hat's rpms.
although apt is a front end to dpkg, it has also been ported to be a frontend to slackware's tgz packages and red hat's rpms.
ECartman
03-23-2004, 02:07 PM
Wow, i seen my name as the starter of this thread and could not remember starting it. That's how old this thread is.
Anyway, just as a follow up, I have successfully installed slackware a number of times now and have yet to try the evil debian again. And now I am off to finish up my gentoo install, which I even found easier to deal with then debian. So, the moral of the story is that Debian sucks :p
Anyway, just as a follow up, I have successfully installed slackware a number of times now and have yet to try the evil debian again. And now I am off to finish up my gentoo install, which I even found easier to deal with then debian. So, the moral of the story is that Debian sucks :p
bandwidth_pig
03-23-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by ECartman
Wow, i seen my name as the starter of this thread and could not remember starting it. That's how old this thread is.
Anyway, just as a follow up, I have successfully installed slackware a number of times now and have yet to try the evil debian again. And now I am off to finish up my gentoo install, which I even found easier to deal with then debian. So, the moral of the story is that Debian sucks :p
Hmmm. Does Debian suck, or were you just looking for something easier? I strongly suspect the later. No offense intended of course. But, in all fairness, Debian far from sucks. Now had you been talking about Mandrake, I couldn't have agreed more! :D
Wow, i seen my name as the starter of this thread and could not remember starting it. That's how old this thread is.
Anyway, just as a follow up, I have successfully installed slackware a number of times now and have yet to try the evil debian again. And now I am off to finish up my gentoo install, which I even found easier to deal with then debian. So, the moral of the story is that Debian sucks :p
Hmmm. Does Debian suck, or were you just looking for something easier? I strongly suspect the later. No offense intended of course. But, in all fairness, Debian far from sucks. Now had you been talking about Mandrake, I couldn't have agreed more! :D
ECartman
03-23-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by bandwidth_pig
Hmmm. Does Debian suck, or were you just looking for something easier? I strongly suspect the later. No offense intended of course. But, in all fairness, Debian far from sucks. Now had you been talking about Mandrake, I couldn't have agreed more! :D
I was just kidding, thus the :p at the end. Debian seems to have it's following, but I prefer the straight forward nature of slackware's package management rather then debians. It seems like Debian over-complicates what should be a simple thing. However, I fear we have resurected a long dead thread :(.
Hmmm. Does Debian suck, or were you just looking for something easier? I strongly suspect the later. No offense intended of course. But, in all fairness, Debian far from sucks. Now had you been talking about Mandrake, I couldn't have agreed more! :D
I was just kidding, thus the :p at the end. Debian seems to have it's following, but I prefer the straight forward nature of slackware's package management rather then debians. It seems like Debian over-complicates what should be a simple thing. However, I fear we have resurected a long dead thread :(.
micro
03-28-2004, 11:30 PM
I have tried Slackware 7-9.1, Debian 3.0, Mandrake 7-9, Gentoo and Fedora Core.
Among all, I prefer Slackware.
What Slackware lacks against Debian is the apt mechanism to update packages without having to reinstall. Theoretically Debian can install from a single floppy and see everything it needs from the net. And it can be continiously up-to-date.
But Debian 3.0 packages (like Kde) were sooooo outdated that I couldn't possibly stick to it and rely on a 56kbps connection to update the whole system.
Both Slackware and Debian will be hard for configuring printers and scanners, but once you find the solution you will learn it for ever.
Among all, I prefer Slackware.
What Slackware lacks against Debian is the apt mechanism to update packages without having to reinstall. Theoretically Debian can install from a single floppy and see everything it needs from the net. And it can be continiously up-to-date.
But Debian 3.0 packages (like Kde) were sooooo outdated that I couldn't possibly stick to it and rely on a 56kbps connection to update the whole system.
Both Slackware and Debian will be hard for configuring printers and scanners, but once you find the solution you will learn it for ever.
Elijah
04-16-2004, 12:21 PM
whew, I've seen my last post ... that's when I was such a newbie back then... now I've Debian installed and running for about 6+ months now without reinstall. I can't count how many times I've reinstalled it, but after I've learned from howto's and tutorials, it's easy.
Outdated? I don't think so, I have kde3.2.1 running via apt and lots of other apps like openoffice1.1, etc. I installed my Debian using a Mini Woody CD and updated everything from there... you just need the right sources for your sources.list file.
Outdated? I don't think so, I have kde3.2.1 running via apt and lots of other apps like openoffice1.1, etc. I installed my Debian using a Mini Woody CD and updated everything from there... you just need the right sources for your sources.list file.
sharth
04-16-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Elijah
whew, I've seen my last post ... that's when I was such a newbie back then... now I've Debian installed and running for about 6+ months now without reinstall. I can't count how many times I've reinstalled it, but after I've learned from howto's and tutorials, it's easy.
Outdated? I don't think so, I have kde3.2.1 running via apt and lots of other apps like openoffice1.1, etc. I installed my Debian using a Mini Woody CD and updated everything from there... you just need the right sources for your sources.list file. Haven't seen you for a loooong time :)
nice to see ya back :cool:
whew, I've seen my last post ... that's when I was such a newbie back then... now I've Debian installed and running for about 6+ months now without reinstall. I can't count how many times I've reinstalled it, but after I've learned from howto's and tutorials, it's easy.
Outdated? I don't think so, I have kde3.2.1 running via apt and lots of other apps like openoffice1.1, etc. I installed my Debian using a Mini Woody CD and updated everything from there... you just need the right sources for your sources.list file. Haven't seen you for a loooong time :)
nice to see ya back :cool:
TheSpeedoBeast
04-16-2004, 03:13 PM
Cartman, if you are still at all curious about getting debian installed on your system, check out the first link in my signature. That link is the only method by which I have gotten debian working at all, and is really worth a try! Let me know what you think, if you decide to try it out. (we are so going for the record for the oldest, still alive thread out there this time!)
sharth
04-16-2004, 03:41 PM
I have sigs disabled, so not sure which you are reffering to, but there is also the option of using Bonzai linux to install debian.
ECartman
04-16-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by TheSpeedoBeast
Cartman, if you are still at all curious about getting debian installed on your system, check out the first link in my signature. That link is the only method by which I have gotten debian working at all, and is really worth a try! Let me know what you think, if you decide to try it out. (we are so going for the record for the oldest, still alive thread out there this time!)
I gave up on debian way back when I started this thread and haven't looked back. I am on to bigger and better things (AKA Gentoo) as you may be able to see from my sig :D.
Anyway, this thread will never die, will it?
Cartman, if you are still at all curious about getting debian installed on your system, check out the first link in my signature. That link is the only method by which I have gotten debian working at all, and is really worth a try! Let me know what you think, if you decide to try it out. (we are so going for the record for the oldest, still alive thread out there this time!)
I gave up on debian way back when I started this thread and haven't looked back. I am on to bigger and better things (AKA Gentoo) as you may be able to see from my sig :D.
Anyway, this thread will never die, will it?
Elijah
04-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by sharth
Haven't seen you for a loooong time :)
nice to see ya back :cool:
Thanks. I've been busy with college stuff back then, now we're into our interns. :cool:
@ECartman:
Gentoo's good too, I think of it as LFS with Portage slapped in ... took me 2 weeks to have everything downloaded and compiled. (I still use a 56k modem)
Originally posted by ECartman
Anyway, this thread will never die, will it?
I dunno, I just bumped it
:D *bump*
Haven't seen you for a loooong time :)
nice to see ya back :cool:
Thanks. I've been busy with college stuff back then, now we're into our interns. :cool:
@ECartman:
Gentoo's good too, I think of it as LFS with Portage slapped in ... took me 2 weeks to have everything downloaded and compiled. (I still use a 56k modem)
Originally posted by ECartman
Anyway, this thread will never die, will it?
I dunno, I just bumped it
:D *bump*
DavidSulc
04-16-2004, 09:03 PM
What I would do is to try the new Debian installer (now in beta 3). Go to debian.org, click on development and in the projects part of the page, click on "teh debian installer".
Among the goodies is hardware auto-detection. I had to answer a few questions (name of the machine, choose a mirror, root password, etc.) but all my hardware was auto-detected !!! Talk about awesome !
On ce this installer oges mainstream Debian will be the best distro (no-one will be able to complain about the installer : ) !
Honestly, I've done several Debina installs, but this installer is so cool, it make sme want to cry.
Give it a shot !
Among the goodies is hardware auto-detection. I had to answer a few questions (name of the machine, choose a mirror, root password, etc.) but all my hardware was auto-detected !!! Talk about awesome !
On ce this installer oges mainstream Debian will be the best distro (no-one will be able to complain about the installer : ) !
Honestly, I've done several Debina installs, but this installer is so cool, it make sme want to cry.
Give it a shot !
ECartman
04-17-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Elijah
@ECartman:
Gentoo's good too, I think of it as LFS with Portage slapped in
Yeah, I suppose, in kinda the same way that the ford mustang is like a model t with a nice paint job slapped on it :p
@ECartman:
Gentoo's good too, I think of it as LFS with Portage slapped in
Yeah, I suppose, in kinda the same way that the ford mustang is like a model t with a nice paint job slapped on it :p
Gogeta_44
04-19-2004, 09:13 PM
iv tryed installing debian and slack and i have to say that debain was hard to install, didint work at the end and wasted hours of my life so yes in my opinion slack is easyer and ever since iv installed it iv been happy
ACSial
08-08-2009, 04:12 AM
Resurrecting this elderly thread...
I'm quite the computer simpleton, yet've found Vector Linux 6.0 (Light Edition, with IceWM) quite simple to install and use. :)
I used the XFS filesystem and, post-install, used the nifty gslapt utility to plonk in OOo 3 and Midori (a nice intermediary between the porkiness of Firefox and the flimsy flakiness of Dillo). I like IceWM better than pre-4.6 Xfce, as it supports 'rubber-banding' and drag-&-drop. Tweak the themes, plonk a wallpaper of Kate Beckinsale with her legs extended on the screen, and yer good to go.
I'm quite the computer simpleton, yet've found Vector Linux 6.0 (Light Edition, with IceWM) quite simple to install and use. :)
I used the XFS filesystem and, post-install, used the nifty gslapt utility to plonk in OOo 3 and Midori (a nice intermediary between the porkiness of Firefox and the flimsy flakiness of Dillo). I like IceWM better than pre-4.6 Xfce, as it supports 'rubber-banding' and drag-&-drop. Tweak the themes, plonk a wallpaper of Kate Beckinsale with her legs extended on the screen, and yer good to go.
blackbelt_jones
08-08-2009, 01:03 PM
is slackware easier to install than debian?
No.
No.
blackbelt_jones
08-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Resurrecting this elderly thread...
I'm quite the computer simpleton, yet've found Vector Linux 6.0 (Light Edition, with IceWM) quite simple to install and use. :)
I used the XFS filesystem and, post-install, used the nifty gslapt utility to plonk in OOo 3 and Midori (a nice intermediary between the porkiness of Firefox and the flimsy flakiness of Dillo). I like IceWM better than pre-4.6 Xfce, as it supports 'rubber-banding' and drag-&-drop. Tweak the themes, plonk a wallpaper of Kate Beckinsale with her legs extended on the screen, and yer good to go.
I don't believe you. Please post a screenshot as proof.;)
Okay, yeah, Vector is pretty great, and VERY easy to set up. I used to like the SOHO (KDE) edition, but they haven't been keeping that current.
But consider how things have changed since this thread was first posted. In Debian, 2002 and was the Era of WOODY! Does anybody here remember what installing Woody used to be like? The installer would ask about 50 question that I couldn't begin to understand. I had to bluff my way through it. Thanks to defaults, I guess it really wasn't that hard, but INTIMIDATING? Damn.
The debian-installer CD came along around the time of Sarge, and changed everything. That's when I first became a debian lover. (Some may remember, I nearly changed my name to debian_jones.)
I'm quite the computer simpleton, yet've found Vector Linux 6.0 (Light Edition, with IceWM) quite simple to install and use. :)
I used the XFS filesystem and, post-install, used the nifty gslapt utility to plonk in OOo 3 and Midori (a nice intermediary between the porkiness of Firefox and the flimsy flakiness of Dillo). I like IceWM better than pre-4.6 Xfce, as it supports 'rubber-banding' and drag-&-drop. Tweak the themes, plonk a wallpaper of Kate Beckinsale with her legs extended on the screen, and yer good to go.
I don't believe you. Please post a screenshot as proof.;)
Okay, yeah, Vector is pretty great, and VERY easy to set up. I used to like the SOHO (KDE) edition, but they haven't been keeping that current.
But consider how things have changed since this thread was first posted. In Debian, 2002 and was the Era of WOODY! Does anybody here remember what installing Woody used to be like? The installer would ask about 50 question that I couldn't begin to understand. I had to bluff my way through it. Thanks to defaults, I guess it really wasn't that hard, but INTIMIDATING? Damn.
The debian-installer CD came along around the time of Sarge, and changed everything. That's when I first became a debian lover. (Some may remember, I nearly changed my name to debian_jones.)
ACSial
08-08-2009, 04:29 PM
You might like this one (http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/113/5/5/Kate_Beckinsale_Sexy_Wallpaper_by_2GRK.jpg)...:D
I don't know what people have against text-based installers. Micturatingsloth eXPee uses one and nobody complains.
I was concerned that I made a stupid choice, with regards to XFS, but--having read much about the subject--am confident now that I did the right thing. I do highly recommend Midori and I don't know why it's not installed as a lightweight instead of Dillo. Vector comes with codecs pre-installed, but VLCPlayer is still worth putting in. Same as with OOo 3 and/or AbiWord (VL comes with something dreadful called 'Pathetic Writer').
I don't know what people have against text-based installers. Micturatingsloth eXPee uses one and nobody complains.
I was concerned that I made a stupid choice, with regards to XFS, but--having read much about the subject--am confident now that I did the right thing. I do highly recommend Midori and I don't know why it's not installed as a lightweight instead of Dillo. Vector comes with codecs pre-installed, but VLCPlayer is still worth putting in. Same as with OOo 3 and/or AbiWord (VL comes with something dreadful called 'Pathetic Writer').
blackbelt_jones
08-09-2009, 10:22 AM
You might like this one (http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/113/5/5/Kate_Beckinsale_Sexy_Wallpaper_by_2GRK.jpg)...:D
Wow! What a talented actress!
Wow! What a talented actress!
loopback48
08-09-2009, 06:03 PM
Many years and distros later, I feel Debian couldn't be easier to install. Compared to Slackware? No doubt about it. It was at one time quite a chore to do so. Not anymore.
One can use the ncurser or GUI method to install. One can pick and choose or use the default recommendations. Gnome is the default DE but any other DE or Windows manager can be just as easily installed. PLUS, it's rock solid. True, the official release is a tad long in the tooth. But not that old that's it's unusable. Not at all. Hell, if XP is still the OS of the majority of the world after 7 or 8 years of use, why can't Lenny which was released in Feb. of 2009?
No, Debian is not a difficult OS to install nor tweak. It's a hell of a lot easier to work with than Slackware ever will be.
One can use the ncurser or GUI method to install. One can pick and choose or use the default recommendations. Gnome is the default DE but any other DE or Windows manager can be just as easily installed. PLUS, it's rock solid. True, the official release is a tad long in the tooth. But not that old that's it's unusable. Not at all. Hell, if XP is still the OS of the majority of the world after 7 or 8 years of use, why can't Lenny which was released in Feb. of 2009?
No, Debian is not a difficult OS to install nor tweak. It's a hell of a lot easier to work with than Slackware ever will be.
JohnT
08-10-2009, 04:44 AM
this is a 2 year old thread.
One of the younger ones......:cool:
One of the younger ones......:cool:
mmills
08-10-2009, 12:17 PM
One of the younger ones......:cool:
lol, yes noted it is..
is debian easier to install than slackware? yes
reason: slackware is more for someone who understands the linux partitioning and the core of the system, debain is more of a graphical in stall that will guide you through with ease, giving you options to make it work.
compairing slack to deb is like comparing..... gentoo to ubuntu..hard/easy.
check out Sabayon 4.3, easier install, helps you become more well versed in linux....well it has for me anyways...:cool:
lol, yes noted it is..
is debian easier to install than slackware? yes
reason: slackware is more for someone who understands the linux partitioning and the core of the system, debain is more of a graphical in stall that will guide you through with ease, giving you options to make it work.
compairing slack to deb is like comparing..... gentoo to ubuntu..hard/easy.
check out Sabayon 4.3, easier install, helps you become more well versed in linux....well it has for me anyways...:cool:
loopback48
08-10-2009, 03:00 PM
I know this is an old thread. But somebody revived it. And I couldn't resist posting my comments concerning Debian v Slackware.
And not only is Debian easier but better.
And not only is Debian easier but better.
JohnT
08-10-2009, 09:40 PM
I know this is an old thread. But somebody revived it. And I couldn't resist posting my comments concerning Debian v Slackware.
And not only is Debian easier but better.
I will wholly agree with the first part.....and if your not interested in learning the ins and outs of your system,getting your hands a little dirty, frustration and satisfaction to the Nth degree....I agree with the second part also.
And not only is Debian easier but better.
I will wholly agree with the first part.....and if your not interested in learning the ins and outs of your system,getting your hands a little dirty, frustration and satisfaction to the Nth degree....I agree with the second part also.
loopback48
08-11-2009, 07:47 PM
John T, I've heard all my Linux life that the best way to learn, really, really learn, Linux is via some OS like Slackware or Gentoo or one of the other hair pulling, teeth gnashing distros. Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
You might as well say to be a good auto driver, you have to know how to rebuilt an engine or work on an auto transmission.
Don't have a problem with someone who want's to go to this length. But it's not necessary. Not any more. And one can still learn much about how to administer one's system using a distro that's easier to work with. Like Ubuntu, and Mepis, and openSuse and Debian.
So to get back to the topic: Is Debian hard to install and administer? No. Not anymore. Is Slackware hard to install? Compared to Debian - Hell yes!
Slackware is just too much work for what you get. At least for me.
You might as well say to be a good auto driver, you have to know how to rebuilt an engine or work on an auto transmission.
Don't have a problem with someone who want's to go to this length. But it's not necessary. Not any more. And one can still learn much about how to administer one's system using a distro that's easier to work with. Like Ubuntu, and Mepis, and openSuse and Debian.
So to get back to the topic: Is Debian hard to install and administer? No. Not anymore. Is Slackware hard to install? Compared to Debian - Hell yes!
Slackware is just too much work for what you get. At least for me.
JohnT
08-11-2009, 11:50 PM
You might as well say to be a good auto driver, you have to know how to rebuilt an engine or work on an auto transmission.
Or another perception...to be a good mechanic... you have to know how to rebuild an engine or work on an auto transmission.There is always the case of repairing...that which is broken.....and the mechanic will more than likely have to drive to your breakdown.
Or another perception...to be a good mechanic... you have to know how to rebuild an engine or work on an auto transmission.There is always the case of repairing...that which is broken.....and the mechanic will more than likely have to drive to your breakdown.
panther3e
08-20-2009, 11:58 PM
Well I have in the last week installed both debian lenny and slackware 12.2. I will admit that debian has become easier to install now. But not always the case. As blackbelt stated earlier in the thread woddy was very hard to install. Back in the day I failed miserably. Slackware I have been able to install for a long time. First version was 3.5 on a very old slow machine.
I was able to install debian without a problem (boring). Only a couple of things I had to figure out that was correct for my system.
I was able to install slack with out a problem as well. I had forgot a couple of things like adding my other linux partitions at installation so there are not on my fstab. Sure I had to edit a few files to get slack to my liking.
I do not believe there is a huge difference between the two anymore. The biggest thing I see is just the difference in philosophy of the distributions.
Thanks Kevin.
I was able to install debian without a problem (boring). Only a couple of things I had to figure out that was correct for my system.
I was able to install slack with out a problem as well. I had forgot a couple of things like adding my other linux partitions at installation so there are not on my fstab. Sure I had to edit a few files to get slack to my liking.
I do not believe there is a huge difference between the two anymore. The biggest thing I see is just the difference in philosophy of the distributions.
Thanks Kevin.
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