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nikax2005
10-14-2002, 08:02 PM
Hi,

I Have recently installed RH 8.0 on my PC. I have an Audigy sound card, which installed correctly and played music on the sound test during installation. I recently downloaded an MP3 to ensure that the format works, but when I double-clicked on the mp3, the Winamp clone that comes with RH loaded up, but did not start to play the mp3. When I tried selecting the MP3 from within the player and pressed 'ok' it did not bring it up on the player either, ie, no title, or any details. All the buttons and volume controls can be 'pressed' but it just doesnt seem to want to play this mp3....Any suggestions?

fancypiper
10-14-2002, 09:27 PM
Redhat doesn't support mp3 with 8.0. Uninstall their version of xmms and install it with a download from the xmms site.

Redhat links:
Easy software management: Red Carpet (http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_red_carpet/)
rpmfind (http://rpmfind.net/)
Red Hat Linux Manuals (http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/)
Maximum RPM (http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/)

bwkaz
10-14-2002, 10:19 PM
Or consider using Ogg Vorbis, a (better, IMHO, but most opinions aren't worth much when you're talking about lossy audio compression) replacement for MP3 that's patent-free (XMMS installations that can play MP3's are now technically illegal, since the company that owns the MP3 patent recently started requiring licenses to decode MP3s as well as encode them). This is, AFAIK, what RedHat is suggesting as well -- don't use MP3s.

Of course, this only really works if you have the original media (CDs) for all your MP3's, so you can re-encode from those. Moving from one lossy compression (MP3) to another (Vorbis) generally causes a loss in quality beyond either of the original formats' losses. But we all know you have these MP3's legally, right? You do have the original media? ;) Hehe, of course you do. ;)

The Whizzard
10-14-2002, 10:33 PM
Another vote for OGG. Encoding at 45kbit/s yeilds a comparable 192kbit/s MP3 at 1/3rd the size. And best of all......no freaking patents!!!

buttercrunch
10-14-2002, 10:43 PM
how do u encode to Ogg Vorbis?
sorry this must be a silly question but i really got no idea....

Wallex
10-14-2002, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by The Whizzard
Another vote for OGG. Encoding at 45kbit/s yeilds a comparable 192kbit/s MP3 at 1/3rd the size. And best of all......no freaking patents!!!

Hmm... is the quality improvement that great? I am not sure... it might take someone with a good ear (or some mathematical freak) to tell for sure how much better oggs sound.

As for ogg encoding... check the ogg vorbis's site... I think I saw some encoders there. I don't have any since i haven't done any recording yet... but if you want to convert some mp3's to ogg, you can use something called oggasm.

sarah31
10-15-2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by The Whizzard
Another vote for OGG. Encoding at 45kbit/s yeilds a comparable 192kbit/s MP3 at 1/3rd the size. And best of all......no freaking patents!!!

bah try ripping an ogg at vbs -q 10 big file but great sound !

bwkaz
10-15-2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by buttercrunch
how do u encode to Ogg Vorbis?
sorry this must be a silly question but i really got no idea.... That's fine.

RedHat probably installed the vorbis-tools package. If not (you can check by trying to run oggenc --version -- if you get "command not found", then it's not installed), then search your CDs for it, and use something like Red Carpet to install it. It will require libogg, libvorbis, and libao, at least, to be installed before it.

Once vorbis-tools is installed, you can look at the man page for oggenc (man oggenc), under the Options section, for various options you may want to give it. Once you've decided on options, do a oggenc <options here> /path/to/filename.wav to encode the (presumably 44kHz, 16-bit stereo) WAV file to Vorbis. You'll get an .ogg file of the same name in your current directory.

To get the audio from CDs to a .wav file, you can either go command-line, with cdda2wav (which should be part of the cdrtools package), or search freshmeat.net for a CD ripping program. Actually, you might find a CD ripping program that will do the Vorbis encoding as well, and all in one step. That might be even better.

chris_i386
10-15-2002, 10:46 AM
Enabling mp3 support in RedHat 8.0 is very easy.
Go to this (http://soraas.student.nlh.no/~havardk/xmms/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rpm/) site, download the mpg123 plugin and install it:
As root go to the directory you downloaded the rpm to and type:
rpm -i xmms-mpg123*

trilarian
10-15-2002, 10:50 AM
Grip is a great gui ripper for both mp3 and ogg. You need oggenc and mp3encode and maybe cdparinoia(sp?). Those are the scripts I make it run, but it came installed with mandrake 9.0, so I don't know what the download includes.