Wine - what it can and can't do!

[Dizzybacon]

I know that wine can be used for running some windows software, but can it be used for devices?

I have a USB mp3 player which I cannot connect in MDK8.1 is it possible that I could use wine and install the windows drives and always use wine to access the device?

Dizzy

[trilarian]

Give it a try. I couldn't get my flash card reader to work under mandrake 9.0. I have winex 2.1 installed and used it to install the bundled software that came with the card reader. I know can read the card through the bundled software, through winex. If you don't want to bother setting up winex from the cvs root, try http://codeweavers.com/technology/wine/download.php
Codeweavers wine isn't optimised for DirectX, which you don't need, and has a graphical setup utility. Post back to let me know if it works. Good luck!

[MMA]

Thats actually a very good idea ;)

[Dizzybacon]

Since first posting this quesytion I found a page on the Wine site which said it wouldn't work, seeing as someone else has had some luck I'll give it a go.

If I can't get Wine to do it I'm going back to dual booting with Windows which is going t be a nightmare.

Dizzy

[Dizzybacon]

Well I got wine installed OK but it falls over when I try to install the drivers for the mp3 player.

trilarian did you install your card reader form a windows install disk? Also you said you used winex do you think this could be relevant to the problem? Maybe the graphical interface on the driver set up causes it to fail.

I'm not ready to give up just yet.

Dizzy

[trilarian]

I did use a winblows disk. I have since then got tthe card to work without winex(I didn't have my usb scan configured right), so I don't know if that makes a difference. I was unsuccessfull in getting nero to work with winex which I was hoping to use to get my dvd-rw drive to work. So this isn't a fix for everything. If you want to try winex, goto www.transgaming.com. The cvs root is free or you can subscribe for $15 and get the rpm. I don't think wine or winex has really gone in the direction of drivers yet. They are still working out the bugs getting just programs to run. Best of luck to you.

[Matt9876]

Just installed WINE last night and had about 10 programs working and linked to the desktop of KDE3.0

some big suprises were winamp,cooledit,virtual dub and gram32
worked perfectly.

I went to the WINE website to look for a list of supported programs read something that said just try out any program you want that no damage can be done. "WRONG"

Asked WINE to run the file explorer in Win 98 SE and thats when it ate my hard drive. Had to reload windoze and Mandrake 9.0

What a mess just got everything back up and running and I have WINE running winamp again.

Is their a good list of what runs under the WINE emulator so I don't have this happen again??

[kam]

Originally posted by Matt9876
Just installed WINE last night and had about 10 programs working and linked to the desktop of KDE3.0

some big suprises were winamp,cooledit,virtual dub and gram32
worked perfectly.

I went to the WINE website to look for a list of supported programs read something that said just try out any program you want that no damage can be done. "WRONG"

Asked WINE to run the file explorer in Win 98 SE and thats when it ate my hard drive. Had to reload windoze and Mandrake 9.0

What a mess just got everything back up and running and I have WINE running winamp again.

Is their a good list of what runs under the WINE emulator so I don't have this happen again??
You were root, weren't you? (or maybe you had to)

But aynways, as for the original post, have you looked for third-party drivers? Someone may have made drivers for it.

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by Matt9876
Asked WINE to run the file explorer in Win 98 SE and thats when it ate my hard drive. Had to reload windoze and Mandrake 9.0You've got to let it go for a while before that happens, though, ... right? I've done that too, not even thinking, just "wine --winver=win98 -- explorer.exe", and a couple minutes later, I realized what that did last time I did it... screw up the Program Files directory pretty bad.

You can take all those $!$!$!$!.xxx directories that Wine is nice enough to create, and look at their extension. If you knew the contents of Program Files before, you can usually match the 3 xxx letters with the original directory name. For example, Common Files changes to $!$!$!$!.cfr, Accessories changes to $!$!$!$!.acr, Windows Media Player changes to $!$!$!$!.wmr, and Internet Explorer changes to $!$!$!$!.ier. Just match up missing things with likely extensions (ignore the r's at the end, I guess), but make sure you check the contents of these directories first!

But you've already reinstalled, so I guess it doesn't matter much. As long as you don't try to boot that partition in the meantime, if you can rename everything to what it was, you shouldn't have problems later... *crosses fingers*

[Matt9876]

bwkaz

You are 100% correct. I was able to fix the dirs but something in the C+ run time stuff for windoze was broken and that prompted me to reload the OS's

I will admit that it caused no real loss of data. Mostly just the trouble of reloading the OS's and a few programs.

[RudeCat7]

It's curious that you are trying to use wine to use Windows programs, when there are perfectly good Linux programs that work as well or better.

CDroast and KonCd for example. And if your cdr-drive doesn't work as is in linux, then it certainly wont work in Wine running a Windows program.

Is your configuration setup for SCSI emulation?
Do the programs you need have the proper permissions?

For the most part, the selection of the distro is very important.

Newbies should not be trying to setup certain distros their first time around.

Redhat and Mandrake may be easy, but I find that the best newbie friendly distro is Suse.

[trilarian]

I know this is getting off the origianl post, but the reason I run wine and winex is that I can't find a linux counter part. For the most part it is games that have not been ported to linux, but I still need a winblows partition for some things I can't find a way to let linux do it. For example, does anyone know of a program like nero that will burn dvd-rw. I have gnome-roast working great on cd-r, but I can't do dvd. Also more advanced publishing software like Photoshop, Illustrator, 3DS MAX, etc. I tried gimp and its great for quick editing, but for my main work, I either have to boot vmware or my winblows partition. Any suggestions for programs that are like the above?
Thx

[Dizzybacon]

Is their a good list of what runs under the WINE emulator so I don't have this happen again??

Try here (http://appdb.winehq.org/)

Rather than using Explorer you could use Windows Commander. I think it is better than Explorer any way.

But aynways, as for the original post, have you looked for third-party drivers? Someone may have made drivers for it.

I've tried looking around alot. I thought the device would work under usb-storage but that doesn't work without a specific driver as well, or so I've been told.

Where should I be looking for third party drivers?

Dizzy