Refresh

[Ahimsa]

Salud!!
Well, I'm getting a little frustrated here: I keep hearing how Linux lovers claim that their system doesn't hang etc. Well ... I might be using a different Linux (RH7.2), but my x windows hangs frequently. Also, the open windows (various GUIs, such as Kmail, Konqueror and Galeon, and then my Home) really don't refresh very well. Often a new GUI opening up will obscure the contents of a previously opened window even after the new window has been minimised/closed. When it my home directory window (invoked from the little house on the Gnome desktop), the whole thing just hangs up the system, and then when I kill the app because nothing else works, I loose both the house, the trash can and my Tux pic on my desktop.
My installation is fine, but if this is the quality of performance then I don't see what Linux lovers crow about to Windows users at this level. At least with Windows one would expect this poor performance.
Just call me Mr Grumpy right now :mad:

[fancypiper]

Don't use windows clones for your wm/de!

I don't like nautilus either because it is such a snail.

I would use gmc as a file manager as it is much faster, even though the desktop isn't as pretty as it is with nautilus.

Kde and gnome are pretty bloated as well.

Some nice alternatives would be to just run a windows manager such as enlightenment, blackbox or fluxbox.

My fluxbox wm scoots compared to gnome/kde.

[Ahimsa]

Hey there fancypiper

Thanx for responding. I'm really getting ticked, so I appreciate the leads. Just two questions though:
1. I have made some launchers and drawers on my Gnome panel. If I change the x windows manager, do I not also loose what I've set up here. I can appreciate that data won't be lost albeit the ways of accessing it via the desktop will probably alter, so it is really about the symlinks that I've created in iconised form that currently reside on my panel.
2. Approx how many MB (GB????) of download am I to expect, because I'm on pay-by-the-minute-dial-up, and I wouldn't mind being able to eat this month!!! :)

Out of your list, what - if anything - can you tell me about the relative merits of the different windows/DE you list here?

Originally posted by fancypiper
Some nice alternatives would be to just run a windows manager such as enlightenment, blackbox or fluxbox.

My fluxbox wm scoots compared to gnome/kde.

Thanks man
:D

[Timothy L. Miller]

You can add your gnome panel to just about any window manager there is...fluxbox, blackbox, xfce, etc.
I'm not sure how to do it, as I don't use it, but I've seen screenshots of it before.

[Timothy L. Miller]

Fluxbox/Blackbox is nice(basically the same, fluxbox has a few more features than blackbox, but is based on it). Very light and fast, easily configurable, and nice and stable.
Enlightenments not bad either, although I don't personally prefer it, there's nothing wrong with it, I used to use it.
Look through the /dev/random boards for all the screenshots posts, many people run these 3 WM's, and you will see many shots of what they look like. And to read about their differing features, check out the homepages for each.Enlightenment (http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/main.html) Blackbox (http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/) Fluxbox (http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/)

[Ahimsa]

T.L.M.:
Thanks for getting back on this. I discovered that the X-login provides several options for wm, including enlightenment. I was fooling with enlightenment last night. It looks like it has a lot of potential but seems pretty complicated (more reading!! :) ). I'll probably stick with Gnome for the time being because I use some KDE progs (e.g. Kmail - I think the Gnome default Balsa sucks), and am rather attached to my panel for ease of access, and until I can find a way to import KDE menus and the panel into, say, enlightenment I'll probably only dabble.