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[Coral Sea]

See ya there. :)

[testuser2]

LNO might not be going anywhere, but having you account screwed up and not fixed is a pain to me (RoofRabbit). Anyway, I'm at http://www.linuxnewbieboard.org or at http://ics.dhs.org/phpBB/index.php most of the time anymore. I used to frequent delphi forums often, but their servers are on the rag most of the time so I rarely go there at all now.

[FORTRAN gy]

Posting to this thread makes it the most current and displays the inflammatory subject on the "most current" page. Let's not do that. I will go bump something else now.

[boblucci]

hello just testing

[boblucci]

hello just testing

[NGene's Ghost]

Originally posted by FORTRAN gy:
<STRONG>Posting to this thread makes it the most current and displays the inflammatory subject on the "most current" page. Let's not do that. I will go bump something else now.</STRONG>

Well if they don't like the title of a thread, they can go delete it. So many posts and user accounts have already been deleted (maybe not intentionally, but deleted anyway) that it doesn't matter if they delete yet another post.

Does it say somewhere that people must not post cool Linux links here at LNO? Then people must not post any links here!

Of course it's not nice to say in a post "this forum sucks, go to &lt;insert site here&gt;" and IMHO that kind of posts shouldn't be posted. But why can't people post sumtin like "here's a cool Linux site, see ya at &lt;insert site here&gt;". Posting a link to another Linux forum doesn't mean that people won't post here anymore.

If people won't post here anymore, it is because posts and user accounts get deleted/screwed up, and because the people who's taking care of this site don't do their job well.

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by NGene's Ghost:
<STRONG>that it doesn't matter if they delete yet another post.
</STRONG>

yes, it would, that would violate the integrity of the board.
i understand you are frustrated, but you are not helping the situation or the purpose of LNO by repeating yourself over and over in these threads. i have responded to your concerns and i know you have read my posts, because you responded back

it is the weekend here in that states and the people that are setting up the HAL's to correct some of these problems don't work until monday, why not take a little break and come back monday and see if we don't have some means to satisfy your frustrations :)

be patient grasshoppa ;)

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by NGene's Ghost:
<STRONG>because the people who's taking care of this site don't do their job well.</STRONG>

the problem has been that since sensei left, there hasn't been a person assigned to "take care of this site" that had access to the tools required to do that job

it is very unfortunate that this transition has been so difficult, it has made a bad situation even harder for all of us

please, please, genie, be patient :)

[NGene's Ghost]

Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>you are not helping the situation or the purpose of LNO by repeating yourself over and over in these threads.</STRONG>

Yes, I am repeating myself, and I will. I want as many people as possible to know about how badly things are handled here. It's actually not a big thing to have a user account deleted on some BBS (hey - I do have a life! ;) ), but it's more a matter of a principle. It's just one of the many examples showing how badly internet.com handles this thing. They fire the admin and creator of this board and don't have any competent person handling this situation. And all because of $$$. Brings a certain big software company to my mind... My user account is just the tip of an iceberg.

To be honest, I don't care much for LNO anymore. Actually I don't even care too much for having my account back. It's just fun to scream and shout and ***** around here. Well, I've posted some useful stuff, too, and I'll try to help people if I can. I didn't come back here to *only* ***** around.

There are other Linux boards out there. Some of them are not owned by a big evil company that thinks only $$$. I'm grateful to Sensei for this awesome BBS, but if there are other BBS'es that have better owner(s), I have no reason to prefer LNO to them.

[NGene's Ghost]

Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>the problem has been that since sensei left, there hasn't been a person assigned to "take care of this site" that had access to the tools required to do that job
</STRONG>

Yes. Why on God's green Earth did they fire Sensei if they don't even have anyone taking caro of this board? Because of $$$. If they had fired Sensei because they had found a more competent person, I would have understood.

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by NGene's Ghost:
<STRONG>I'm grateful to Sensei for this awesome BBS
</STRONG>

then please don't distrupt the posting of the people that are seeking help with linux here

i have said that i will help with your account, which is what you first started posting about this morning, now you are claiming that you don't want your old account fixed, and you are nearly admitting that you are just posting to disrupt the board and cause trouble (if i misunderstand, please tell me)

if you are doing this out of frustration, i understand, if you are doing it to be vindictive/mean/disrupt the board, then please stop posting and leave

if you don't respect the owner of the server, that is a seperate issue , to me, than trying to destroy/disrupt the purpose of LNO

if you still respect sensei, i ask you please, to allow this board to continue unimpeded with its stated purpose

Our Credo:
"We the newbies of the Linux community, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish better documentation, insure cross platform understanding, provide for the common computer user, promote the general goodness of Linux and other OS's, and secure the Blessings of Linus to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Website for the Linux Newbies--Linuxnewbie.org" -sensei@linuxnewbie.org

[NGene's Ghost]

Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>then please don't distrupt the posting of the people that are seeking help with linux here</STRONG>

As you probably have noticed, I have not posted this stuff to General Linux questions, Tech support, etc. I won't ***** at forums where people really go to seek some help. I won't answer with posting some bull5hit like "don't post here, this place sucks, go to &lt;insert forum here&gt;". I ***** at Rants, here at Forum bugs, etc. where people *don't* come asking help with Linux. Newbies who are at LNO for the first time, won't probably post to Rants or similar first so they probably won't even see my posts.

<STRONG>i have said that i will help with your account, which is what you first started posting about this morning, now you are claiming that you don't want your old account fixed, and you are nearly admitting that you are just posting to disrupt the board and cause trouble (if i misunderstand, please tell me)</STRONG>

It would be nice, if I had my account back. Then I'd have one reson less to be angry. I just meant that having my account back isn't the most important thing in the world, because LNO isn't the most important thing. I don't want to cause trouble, but I do want to scream and shout here a little, and my missing profile is a good reason for that, but I try not to scare newbies away. I have pretty limited Linux knowledge, but if somebody is asking here at LNO an easy question that I can answer, I'm happy to help.

<STRONG>
if you are doing this out of frustration, i understand, if you are doing it to be vindictive/mean/disrupt the board, then please stop posting and leave</STRONG>

Basically I'm just frustrated. I don't want to disrupt the board, but maybe I'm little mean. But like I already said, I won't be posting any garbage to people who want an answer to their questions.

<STRONG>
if you don't respect the owner of the server, that is a seperate issue , to me, than trying to destroy/disrupt the purpose of LNO

if you still respect sensei, i ask you please, to allow this board to continue unimpeded with its stated purpose</STRONG>

I am not disrupting anything. If one user of the board is complaining about how badly things are handled, and if a user doesn't like the owner of this place, it does not mean that the board cannot continue anymore or that newbies won't be getting any help anymore. I am 1 / 18000 of the people here, and I don't think i'm so important that this whole BBS would lose its purpose if I ***** here. ;) If Internet.com, or a HAL (like you!), or somebody else doesn't like my posts, they can feel free to delete them.

[FORTRAN gy]

Originally posted by NGene's Ghost:
<STRONG>Well if they don't like the title of a thread, they can go delete it.
Does it say somewhere that people must not post cool Linux links here at LNO? Then people must not post any links here!
</STRONG>

NGENE,I don't really give fsck about internet.com's feelings, but the title of this thread caused problems for the owner of LNB. Internet.com's main gripe with him turned out to be this type of spamming of their board, so he changed his domain name. This thread is not only rude, it's now inaccurate. By rude I don't mean referring to another site, that's just informative. The "Ex-LNO" part is what I object to, especially since most of us posting at LNB/LJO are still posting here.

[ 09 June 2001: Message edited by: FORTRAN gy ]

[NGene's Ghost]

Originally posted by FORTRAN gy:
<STRONG>NGENE,I don't really give fsck about internet.com's feelings, but the title of this thread caused problems for the owner of LNB. Internet.com's main gripe with him turned out to be this type of spamming of their board, so he changed his domain name. This thread is not only rude, it's now inaccurate. By rude I don't mean referring to another site, that's just informative. The "Ex-LNO" part is what I object to, especially since most of us posting at LNB/LJO are still posting here.</STRONG>

I just don't understand how this spamming could possible cause probs to the owner of LNB. He's not responsible of what the users do?! If I go here and post threads that say "Linux sucks, stop using it because Windows is better", will they sue Microsoft? :eek:

[Strike]

Hey, as far as I'm concerned, you can flame internet.com all you want - it's not against their AUP :) I wish things were getting carried out more quickly, but sadly I think things are getting done just about as quickly as they would with any corporation as large as internet.com. Do I think it sucks that people's accounts are getting deleted? Hell yeah I do. I'm kinda scared MINE might get deleted, and since I'm the only HAL that can control some of the forums now, that's bad. Plus, it's deleting the user accounts of good Debian users like yourself, NGene, and since Debian runs like a dream it's really weird when things go wrong like this and there's not a really easy way to fix it :)

So, I don't expect everyone to be super-happy or even placated by anything we say, because we've said a lot and nothing has really gotten done. All we can do is repeat ourselves - "We will be righting things soon. ... We are going to try to fix your account. ...", etc. Skepticism wouldn't surprise me in the least. I'm just going to keep pleading with you all to wait a little while longer until we get things together and get control here.

Now, while I'd like the bad-mouthing of the board (even if it's directed at internet.com, many don't pay attention to that) to stop, but it's not my place or anybody else's to tell (or even ask) you to stop it. You're welcome to do as you wish :)

[FoBoT]

this thread was moved to rants, because it is off-topic for forum bugs :rolleyes: