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TheBouleOfFools
01-14-2001, 03:58 PM
Well... I like debian because of the apt system, and Stormix is a kick *** debian based OS, but the kernel isn't standard, so I can't use things like Win4Lin and OSS, so I tried actual debian. I couldn't configure networking so the apt system was a complete waste. I didn't even have the freakin make command so I couldn't install 2.4.0 kernel or linuxconf. Big waste. What I want to know is does Corel use the standard kernel or does it use a custom kernel? I don't want to have to download it, then kill my nicely but silent Stormix installation to find out I get same thing with Corel.
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Craig McPherson
01-14-2001, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by TheBouleOfFools:
and Stormix is a kick *** debian based OS, but the kernel isn't standard, so I can't use things like Win4Lin and OSS
Recompile the kernel
You're perfectly free to compile a stock Linux kernel on a Stormix system... I've done it. The "nonstandard" stuff in the Storm Linux kernel is mainly just for the flashy Windows-like startup screen and the annoying woman saying "Storm Linux 2000" during startup.
Recompiling with a standard kernel will get rid of those things -- but no big loss.
I couldn't configure networking so the apt system was a complete waste.
YOU couldn't configure networking so the SYSTEM was a complete waste?
Did you try?
Did you check to see what Linux driver your network card uses?
Did you modprobe that driver?
Did you define your interface in /etc/network/interfaces
Did you try to bring up the interface?
Those 4 steps are all it takes.
If your network card works with any one distribution of Linux, it'll work with EVERY distro of Linux. You just have to modprobe the driver...
TheBouleOfFools
01-14-2001, 08:26 PM
Also I would like to add that I did try to use my own kernel in Storm Linux. 2.4.0 didn't even freakin boot. It gets to Ok, booting the kernel... then freezes. I tried 2.2.18 but I couldn't get my Network card to work. Reason debian was a waste because it came with no packages installed, and I couldn't install any because internet didn't work. So I'm still asking, does Corel use standard or non-standard kernel?
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[This message has been edited by TheBouleOfFools (edited 14 January 2001).]
guitarlyn
01-14-2001, 08:54 PM
Corel uses a stock kernel, but on updates they do not update the kernel headers (supposably for compatibility problems). Most of us that have used CLOS for a while have manually updated our headers which has worked perfectly. If you want a new kernel, point Corel Update at the unstable site and it will automatically get and install it.... no problem!
Hope this helps,
~Guitarlynn
ndogg
01-15-2001, 04:12 AM
WTF? What kind of NIC do you have? How can you not get your NIC/networking to work? Did you make sure that C/C++ and debugger utils were installed so you can get make? Networking isn't all that difficult under Debian.
Sorry, Corel does use a stock kernel, but you can compile your own kernel for it.
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fow99
01-15-2001, 10:42 AM
I don't know though I do run Corel. The kernel Corel 1.2 used was a 4.2.16 and I upgraded it to 4.2.18. Everything is fine.
ColdPack
01-15-2001, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by fow99:
I don't know though I do run Corel. The kernel Corel 1.2 used was a 4.2.16 and I upgraded it to 4.2.18. Everything is fine.
That would be 2.2.16 and 2.2.18.
As for Stormix, I run it with the 2.4 kernel.
I've also used 2.2.18 and it worked just fine.
And to be honest, Debian comes with everything plus the kitchen sink. It's up to you to tell it to put it on your computer.
Networking with Debian is a piece of cake.
And no make? Did you install the devel packages? That should've done it.
Anyway, if you're a newbie (we all are, I guess, to some degree) don't blame the system for your lack of knowledge on what you need to do to get it all working.
I am so wet behind the ears when it comes to a lot of this stuff. All I did when I installed and compiled the kernel for my machine was read the docs. I went to linuxdoc.org and kernel.org to find out what the heck I needed to do. And... WOW! It worked. The system and distros are fine. They all will work with whatever kernel you want to use.
By the way, the Stormix kernel (2.2.16-storm) also compiled stuff like USB support into it. Not just flashy windoze-like stuff like Craig mentioned. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/wink.gif
Nice to see you around Craig, by the way. Where've you been?
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