GNOME or KDE?

[Sicnus]

ok what isthe diffence and reason you would use GNOME over KDE or vise versa. the differences? and what not... cause i got kmail and its for KDE (i am a newbie obviously :confused: ) and my crappy book doesn't explain it good enough. thanks 

[Cuthbert]

Its merely personal preference. I'm a Gnome type of guy... can't stand KDE. KDE is more "windows like" than Gnome is. Gnome is more customisable than KDE (especially with enlightenmet).

Each can accomplish the same things as the other. you can run KDE apps in Gnome and vice-versa.

It all comes down to which one you just happen to like better.

[Tyr-7BE]

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[TheGimp]

Originally posted by Cuthbert:
<STRONG>KDE is more "windows like" than Gnome is</STRONG>

both gnome and kde are windows like hence the K & gnome menu's, the desktop shortcuts and the taskbar :rolleyes:

[Dr. Shim]

I'm a total newbie too (it should be easy to relate :)) and I just played around with the two and I thought KDE was easier to handle. :D

[Gray_Race]

I started with KDE. It was just easier to use. It was eaiser to find stuff, and allowed for more GUI interfaces. Now that I'm getting a little better I've switched over to Enlightment, which works better with Gnome. So I'd recomend using KDE at first just to get your feet wet, then try the other windowmangers and see what fits you best.

[TacKat]

I started using KDE, but was moderately disappointed with how slow it was performing. Since that was the first time I ever touched a *nix system, I didn't get the best impression. I stuck with it though and eventually found WM. MUCH faster and cleaner.

[Stanley W. Rogouski]

I vastly prefer KDE, mainly because I'm using Redhat as my main OS. No windows at all in my house. KDE let's me get work down. Konquorer's fast as hell and I like the way it's integrated into the OS. I tried Helix Gnome and didn't really like it. I went right back to KDE. It's not just ease of use. KDE's a lot more powerful in some ways then Gnome, has more features. It is a resource pig though.

[Sicnus]

thanks yall have been most helpful. i did an update from 6.2 - 7 today and put all the kde stuff on there. probably bad idea i only have a 2.5 gb harddrive... so kde and gnome apps are interchangable? then i might as well stick with one over other then.

[Stanley W. Rogouski]

Not really. There are apps in KDE like Koffice that I don't think you can make work in Gnome (you might if you're a guru) and I've never seen Konqueror in Gnome.

Originally posted by Sicnus:
<STRONG>thanks yall have been most helpful. i did an update from 6.2 - 7 today and put all the kde stuff on there. probably bad idea i only have a 2.5 gb harddrive... so kde and gnome apps are interchangable? then i might as well stick with one over other then.</STRONG>

[sincka]

Originally posted by Stanley W. Rogouski:
<STRONG>Not really. There are apps in KDE like Koffice that I don't think you can make work in Gnome (you might if you're a guru) and I've never seen Konqueror in Gnome.
</STRONG>

Well I Konqueror working in Gnome no prob and you don't really need to be a guru... anyway :cool: blackbox :cool: with basic gnome packages.

Not blackbox and Gnome (blackbox with the stupid menu bar and crap) I am talking about clean blackbox... very nice :)

[Sicnus]

what is black box?

[dvdnut]

blackbox is another "light" window manager

quite fast in fact but not as easy to navigate as gnome or kde.

recommended for the slower pc's

[sincka]

Originally posted by Sicnus:
<STRONG>what is black box?</STRONG>

here (http://bb.themes.org)

It is a very compact/simple window manager. Nothing fancy shamcy and does the job :)

Try it out man... it's amaizing when you get the hang of it.

[tallulah]

Originally posted by sincka:
<STRONG>here (http://bb.themes.org)Try it out man... it's amaizing when you get the hang of it.</STRONG>

It IS the best. It is also really easy to edit the blackbox menu in /etc/X11/blackbox to add the apps you like to the list or to eliminate ones you never use. It is so fast to start up that you can't blink when you type startx or you WILL miss its loading. If I had to choose between gnome or KDE, I would probably choose gnome, but all the important configuration tools for both are accessible from the right-click menu in blackbox.

:)

[Sicnus]

so startx starts it up? how do you set it as default? cause i have gnome as default but when i start up in gui mode it only opens enlightment and just gives me the pager and the blank background... no gnome... so how can imake it log in at text mode by default?

[Sicnus]

Originally posted by jane doe:
<STRONG>It IS the best. It is also really easy to edit the blackbox menu in /etc/X11/blackbox to add the apps you like to the list or to eliminate ones you never use. It is so fast to start up that you can't blink when you type startx or you WILL miss its loading. If I had to choose between gnome or KDE, I would probably choose gnome, but all the important configuration tools for both are accessible from the right-click menu in blackbox.

:)</STRONG>

ok... i have stuff like kmail (trying to replace with mutt but sooooo confusing) and i have stuff like irc chats and licq and aim that i am going to need to get to...should i just leave them all to be opened using the xterm or should i put them as apps in the right click menu....and how do i do that... like i know where to put the files but what files do i put there? and can i use symlinks or links to save space?

[tallulah]

Here's an example from my menu file in /etc/X11/blackbox. In the parentheses you put the name of the program as you would like it to appear in the menu. In the curly brackets you put the path to the app, or to a symlink. (I have put paths to symlinks in my file.) Whether you prefer to use a terminal window or an item from a menu to find and execute app's is purely personal preference! BTW - gaim is a nice substitute for AIM and is not confusing at all! Hope this portion of a file helps:

[submenu] (Mail) {}
[begin] (Mandrake)
[exec] (Evolution) {/usr/bin/evolution}
[exec] (Faces) {faces}
[exec] (KMail) {kmail}
[exec] (KMail Import) {kmailcvt}
[exec] (Mozilla Messenger) {/usr/bin/mozilla -mail}
[exec] (Netscape Messenger) {/usr/bin/netscape +messenger}[submenu] (Mail) {}
[begin] (Mandrake)
[exec] (Evolution) {/usr/bin/evolution}
[exec] (KMail) {kmail}
[exec] (KMail Import) {kmailcvt}
[exec] (Mozilla Messenger) {/usr/bin/mozilla -mail}
[exec] (Netscape Messenger) {/usr/bin/netscape +messenger}[submenu] (Mail) {}
[begin] (Mandrake)
[exec] (Evolution) {/usr/bin/evolution}
[exec] (KMail Import) {kmailcvt}
[exec] (Mozilla Messenger) {/usr/bin/mozilla -mail}
[exec] (Netscape Messenger) {/usr/bin/netscape +messenger}

[ 31 July 2001: Message edited by: jane doe ]