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I went to Linuxiso.org and downloaded the first iso for Debian 2.2 r3. Then I burned that iso to a cd. Then I made a boot/rescue disk, then I made a root disk. Ya Im all happy. Then I get the No Hard Disk could be found. Youre installing on a diskless workstation.
So I configure the keyboard and the next option it gives me is Preload Modules from a Floppy. Ok so I pick that and it says insert a floppy in /dev/fd0. All modules you want to load with this process must reside in the boot subdirectory of your floppy disk. Ok so I put in my boot disk no luck. Put in my root disk still nothing. Where do these modules come from???
Someone told me the newer version of Debian should detect my Harddisk, well it didnt. Since I had this problem before with an older version of Debian.
This just makes me so freaking mad, Mandrake had no problems at all detecting my hard disk. Why is debian being a pain in the ***??
Also someone told me, that since I get boot off a cd. After I boot up with my boot disk there should be an option to install off the cd. I havent seen this option anywhere.
Thanks for any help. Sorry for the ranting in there I am just frustrated that this is being a *****.
godot
07-08-2001, 11:03 PM
you're using a PCI ATA controller I take it?
under control panel it says:
Intel 82371AB/EB PCI bus Master IDE controller
is that information useful??
if not tell under where I should find the info on my hard disk controller.
thanks.
Strike
07-09-2001, 03:15 AM
Do you have an IDE ATA card or something? If so, you need special bootdisks. No, that info tells us nothing, btw.
I dont know. How do I find out if I have that kind of card. Im not sure on any of my hardware.
Keyser Soze
07-09-2001, 03:41 AM
Open up the bloody box. Or look at the spec sheet that came with it(I would have to assume you bought it prebuilt given your reply) and don't post a topic like that again or I will have to beat common sense into you...or manners. jeez that gives me a headache to look at. :rolleyes:
bdg1983
07-09-2001, 05:46 AM
They are asking if you have a separate ATA100/66 controller that is not being detected. Or are you hd's plugged in the motherboard.
Hmm I guess I will have to try and find my spec sheet. Cause I dont think opening my box is going to happen. Even if I did open it I wouldnt know what I am looking at.
Um I looked and I dont have a spec sheat. Does anybody think that if I reinstall mandrake somewhere in the process of installation it will tell me if I have one of those.
Thanks for your help everybody.
[ 09 July 2001: Message edited by: jjjj ]
bdg1983
07-09-2001, 03:24 PM
Does you bios support booting from CD?
Go into the bios and check the boot order. If you see CD, then set it to be first and then reboot with the CD inserted.
May not help, but worth a try.
Keyser Soze
07-09-2001, 07:23 PM
Can you open the box take a picture(digital or otherwise) and put it out for us to see.
bdg1983
07-09-2001, 07:50 PM
Open the case and look to see if the HD ribbon cables are plugged into the motherboard or a PCI Adapter of which could be a i.e. Promise ATA100 Controller.
How old is this PC and do you have any manuals for it.
You have to help us for us to help you.
godot
07-09-2001, 07:52 PM
well, i seriously doubt that a factory machine uses a PCI ATA controller, but it may use an onboard chipset that isn't the motherboard, can't think of any that sell that way though. Otherwise, it should detect your HD just fine. How about some more details on the error it gives you.
Um Godott :
this is the exact error it gives me:
No hard disk drives could be found. Youre installing the system on a diskless workstation.
Keyser:
No picture, I dont have a scanner or a digital camera.
I may try to boot from cd.
But first I will open the box and see if I can explain to you guys see.
Um thanks for all your help guys this means alot to me. Thanks for sticking with me, even though I am kind of difficult and retarted. I will conquer this ****.
Derango
07-10-2001, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by godot:
<STRONG>well, i seriously doubt that a factory machine uses a PCI ATA controller, but it may use an onboard chipset that isn't the motherboard, can't think of any that sell that way though. Otherwise, it should detect your HD just fine. How about some more details on the error it gives you.</STRONG>
Actualy...for a while, dell bundeled ATA/100 PCI controller cards with their PCs because they wanted ATA-100 and the motherboard they were using wouldent support it at the time.
DrDebian
07-10-2001, 12:46 PM
It's best to use SCSI CD-writers.
Um ok I opened my box. I looked at the HD and the ribbon cable from there connected to a card that says Ultra 66. I dont know what this card is and the only thing I could find on it is Ultra 66.
I hope this helps.
godot
07-10-2001, 02:55 PM
Yea, that's a Promise Ultra66, the reason Debian won't see it is because you're not loading the module for it. I don't know if Debian 2.2r2 has modules for it, but 2.2r3 might. I'm using an Ultra100 right now but I have to compile kernel 2.4.x to get it working. May want to try something like this.
Get an old HD, 1 GB at least, and plug it into your motherboard's HD controller, which Debian will know how to use. Then install debian and compile a 2.4.x kernel with Promise controller support and then mount your other drives.
Or.... you could move that cable from the Ultra66 card to your Motherboard's controllers, since UDMA66 is only marginally faster than UDMA33 (unlike UDMA100, how I love >35 MB/s sustained transfers :) )
Keyser Soze
07-10-2001, 03:04 PM
ahhhhhh, there we go. You have started your journey young skywalker, now we must begin your training in earnest. Next disassemble the entire computer removing all chips and components.
Wow those are the only options. That actually sucks. I dont think 2.2 r3 has modules for it either since that is what I am trying to use. Hmm and opening my box was a pain in the ***, and I am not very good at the hardware side of things.
Well is there another debian based Linux that has support for this kind of thing? Like Storm Linux or Libranet?
Thanks for your help.
godot
07-10-2001, 03:29 PM
Progeny might
bdg1983
07-10-2001, 03:35 PM
Not sure if what I found is for the correct version of Debian you are installing, but at least this will give you a start.
I did a Google search for 'debian ultra66' and here you do.
http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/debian/main/disks-i386/current/udma66/
Hmm this is really bugging me now. Why dont they have support for this yet other distros like Mandrake do.
Um for that page you found on google what am I supposed to do with that stuff. Um do I download it and put it on cd. Also will winzip unzip those files. I am kind of at a loss here.
Thanks for the help guys.
bdg1983
07-11-2001, 05:46 AM
Not sure. I thought it could be a disk image you use for installing on a Ultra66.
Have you tried the Ultra66 NHF? A lot of LNO members have used that to install on a Ultra66/100.
OOps I didnt know there was one. Thanks I will check it out.
Actually I couldnt even find it what exactly is it under. I just may be blind. All I found was a UMD66 one.
[ 11 July 2001: Message edited by: jjjj ]