Is this possible?

[mandreko]

ok, i'm going to be getting a cable modem soon... and another computer hopefully... i was thinking that i would take the computer i'm on currently, that's running win98, to connect to @home... then i was wondering if there would be a way to make a network, of my future computer running linux, and my sister's computer running win98?

they are all going to have nic cards.

[prophet]

yes you can, if windows is going to be your server, and you would like the other boxes to share the internet, go get sygate 3.0 from www.sygate.com. (http://www.sygate.com.) Thats how i used to have it, but i decided to switch my server from win98 to linux b/c win98 crashes after like 3-4 days from memory leaks...meaning for no damn apparent reason! u also gonna need a hub -=)

[bogomip]

I am using a Road Runner cable modem and currently have three computers running off it.(2 linuxboxes 1 loser98 box) There are two ways to go about this, both require the same hardware. Some NICs and a hub. The easiest way to get them all sharing the cable modem is to plug the cable modem (hey wait, this only applies if @home modems are external) into the uplink port on the hub and plug all the computers into the rest of the ethernet jacks as needed. Obviously you wont have file sharing between computers with this method, but the advantage is that there is no host computer that has to be on at all times in order for other computers to get on the net. If you would like to set up a real file/net sharing LAN, this will be a little different. Remember, I use a different cable modem so what I am saying here is assuming they are simmilar enough for this to apply.
1. Your main computer will be you Win98 box, because that is the system the @home people will insist installing the modem on. It will require 2 NICs. 1 NIC connected to the cable modem, the other 2 the ethernet hub. Ignore the uplink port in this scenerio.
2. With one of the NICs on your main box hooked up to the first jack on the hub. Plug in the rest of the computers on down the line.
3. Have a blast configuring Samba on you linux box. You see, Windoze and Linux both use encripted passwords. Incompatable encripted passwords. Its actually no big deal
but can be a pain you first time around.
It may be wise to download a nifty program like Cheops to monitor you progress. Personally, when I first got started with linux a few weeks ago I went the true lan/samba route. As a newbie, it took me 2 days to get it all configured. After all the trouble I went through I have since dumped it and opted to plug the cable modem into the uplink port on the hub along with all the other computers. IT IS MUCH SIMPLER. However, you will learn an awful lot trying to set up resource sharing between windows and linux. Still, I recommend the easy way. I am sorry if this all made little sense, I have the flu somthing terrible and my brain is quite fragmented. dont forget to check out [url="http://www.cablemodemhelp.com]www.cablemodemhelp.com[/URL"] they have some Linux links. I hate to redirect you to another site but http://linux.miningco.com has a wonderfull tutorial on exactley what you are trying to do. I have messed with samba so much I think I just might wright up an NHF. I dont think there is one?
Dont forget to make sure you LAN cable is long enough.
Ok Ok, one more thing. If you do go the easy route and just want all you computers hooked up to the modem with no actuall file sharing.
I may as well give you a good Idea how to get linux to work with it. Surprise! its incredibly simple. Actually, I take that back. It depends what Distro your using. reply back and i will tell you how.

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What do you mean invalid parameters!! 9000gigs of ram and you cant even answer a simple question!!




[This message has been edited by bogomip (edited 09 September 1999).]

[mandreko]

I'm going to actually be using Mandrake 6.0, i've never installed it, but it's not much different that redhat, i've heard... And I don't need file sharing, it would be nice, but not needed... and i don't know a lot about linux, so i don't want to worry about it, i'll do the easy way...

[bogomip]

Mandrake 6 is perfect. Twords the end of the install, it will ask you if you want to set up your network (not dialup) Simply select yes. Choosing the driver for your ethernet card will be the only hard part. If its a pci
ethernet card, there is a good chance the:
NE2000 PCI driver will work. I am using a real cheap (but good) linksys hub and cards and that driver works great for me. Otherwise
just see if you can find your card in the list. After thats done, it will give you some options on how to connect to the network. Just select DHCP and linux should (in theory) connect to @home with no trouble everytime. One thing though, In mandrake/redhat 6 there is a bug in DHCP here is the fix:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/i386/pump-0.7.0-1.i386.rpm
On you windows box, simply copy this to a floppy (its small) Take it down to your linux box and install. If this is you first time around with linux, the easiest way to install an RPM is as follows:
1. start KDE (easiest desktop)
2. click on the floppy drive icon.(obviously with the floppy disk that has the rpm on it inserted.
3. click on the RPM file, an install program will start, simply click on install and your done. if it does not let you install, put a check in all the boxes EXCEPT the test only box.
Now reboot you linux box and it should (hopefully) connect to your provider. If you have any problems or questions please dont hesitate to post back to Linuxnewbie.org!
BTW- you said this is your first time installing linux, with mandrake, the easiest way is to simply select the workstation option and then let it do its thing.

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What do you mean invalid parameters!! 9000gigs of ram and you cant even answer a simple question!!

[mandreko]

i've got just a little problem with that... i have a superfloppy drive, i didn't know that it came with my computer, and in linux, it doesn't work... i guess it's not supported... how could i transfer that file?

[bogomip]

LS-120, right? Does it work with a regular floppy disk inserted? Take a look at your /etc/fstab file. Look for a drive other than your hard drive and cdrom. I recomend taking a look at NHF on mounting drives. In fact, the NHF on mounting a zip drive may very well apply. Also, since it sounds like you are dual booting. You should be able mount your windows drive under linux. Maybe. If fat32 is compiled into the kernal already, your good to go. If not, you get to recompile your kernal!! That shouldnt be nessesary though. I am sure you can get your superfloppy mounted under linux. If you try everything and its still no go. Try posting a new message, "Help mounting superfloppy" or something to that effect. Also, you may want post the contents of you fstab file. Good luck.

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What do you mean invalid parameters!! 9000gigs of ram and you cant even answer a simple question!!

[GuyCook]

Originally posted by bogomip:
Mandrake 6 is perfect. Twords the end of the install, it will ask you if you want to set up your network (not dialup) Simply select yes. Choosing the driver for your ethernet card will be the only hard part. If its a pci
ethernet card, there is a good chance the:
NE2000 PCI driver will work. I am using a real cheap (but good) linksys hub and cards and that driver works great for me. Otherwise
just see if you can find your card in the list. After thats done, it will give you some options on how to connect to the network. Just select DHCP and linux should (in theory) connect to @home with no trouble everytime. One thing though, In mandrake/redhat 6 there is a bug in DHCP here is the fix:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/i386/pump-0.7.0-1.i386.rpm
On you windows box, simply copy this to a floppy (its small) Take it down to your linux box and install. If this is you first time around with linux, the easiest way to install an RPM is as follows:
1. start KDE (easiest desktop)
2. click on the floppy drive icon.(obviously with the floppy disk that has the rpm on it inserted.
3. click on the RPM file, an install program will start, simply click on install and your done. if it does not let you install, put a check in all the boxes EXCEPT the test only box.
Now reboot you linux box and it should (hopefully) connect to your provider. If you have any problems or questions please dont hesitate to post back to Linuxnewbie.org!
BTW- you said this is your first time installing linux, with mandrake, the easiest way is to simply select the workstation option and then let it do its thing.



I have Mandrake 7.2, and @home the file pump above won't install. I am "out of wits" on this adventure, please advise this linux newbie.


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Guy Cook
www.guycook.net

[tminos]

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/eek.gif
WHOAH! Whats up with bringing back the old thread? This was made when I was... 13...

[mandreko]

tminos... at least you know some people look up their questions before you ask... always refreshing... huh?