Connecting Linux box to Win98 box running WinGate

[eoghann]

Hi,

I'm currently trying to connect a dual-boot linux/WinME box to a second computer with an internet connection and running WinGate.

On the windows side things are working perfectly (so I know that the hardware is fine) but I'm struggling to configure my linux side to work.

I'm using the Mandrake 7.0 distribution and it apparently successfully recognised the ethernet card. I have set the linux box IP address to 192.168.0.2 and the windows box to 192.168.0.1 but when I try to use the route command to add entries for th 192.168.0 network I'm told the network is down.

Any suggestions how I should proceed?

[James Bond]

did you have to install special software for wingate to work? I know that I have seen programs like this that needed to have special software installed on each client (and was thus limited to Win based). If that isn't the case, see if you can ping the Linux box from the ME and the ME from the Linux. Sometimes the problem is in the routing on the Windows machine.

good luck
-james

PS - WinME has built in internet sharing capabilities.

[H. M. Murdock]

I dont think you will need wingate. Doesnt Win ME come with some internet sharing software?

Besides, I would use linux as the gateway. Thats what I do at home on our cable modem. You can setup IP Masq rather easily, or if you want setup a firewall of some sort.

Murdock

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[eoghann]

I perhaps didn't make the setup clear. The ME/Linux machine is not the one with an internet connection. The Win98 one has that and its the first edition of Win98 which doesn't have the Internet Sharing stuff.

That machine has to be the internet connection since it is my wife's machine. I want the network set up in such a way that my wife can continue to use her computer as she always has (no messing with proxy settings or special configurations for ICQ etc). The only way to be certain of that is to give her machine a direct internet connection.

While I hope to get a dedicated linux box set up at some point, for the moment I just have the dual boot so making linux the gateway isn't practical.

Originally posted by H. M. Murdock:
I dont think you will need wingate. Doesnt Win ME come with some internet sharing software?

Besides, I would use linux as the gateway. Thats what I do at home on our cable modem. You can setup IP Masq rather easily, or if you want setup a firewall of some sort.

[eoghann]

I've just discovered that the eth0 is not being made properly active for some reason.

If I do ifconfig -a it lists eth0, but if I do ifconfig it doesnt. ifconfig etho up results in the error message:

SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable

[eoghann]

And the answer is:

Just in case anyone else suffers this. The error was caused by an IRQ conflict and the solutionw as to turn off the PNP option in my computer's BIOS.

[TStarr]

I am using the same kind of setup:
Cable modem on Win95 machine running Wingate
Win98 machine on network
Dual boot Linux/Win98 on network.
I have no problems accessing the internet with Netscape in Linux since I can manually set the proxies. However, any other programme in Mandrake that accesses the internet, such as searching for updates, always fails, since I do not know how to set the proxies for all of the internet programmes such as ICQ, IRC, etc.
If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated, and please be detailed if I need to edit any files, since I really don't know anything about that in Linux.
Thank you.

[thdomo]

Originally posted by TStarr:
I am using the same kind of setup:
Cable modem on Win95 machine running Wingate
Win98 machine on network
Dual boot Linux/Win98 on network.
I have no problems accessing the internet with Netscape in Linux since I can manually set the proxies. However, any other programme in Mandrake that accesses the internet, such as searching for updates, always fails, since I do not know how to set the proxies for all of the internet programmes such as ICQ, IRC, etc.
If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated, and please be detailed if I need to edit any files, since I really don't know anything about that in Linux.
Thank you.


Hey, wonder if you can help me. I've got a similar set up, only using a Mac as a gateway. I know the gatewway is working cause I've got another Mac on the Internet no problems. Here's the prob. My linux box can ping the gateway and the other host (the Mac) but it can't ping outside of the gateway to the internet.

I'm sure the gateway is cool cause if it wasnt, how could my iMac ping the net. So what gives. Ive got Mandrake and went through all the GUI programs they use. Still nothing using ping or trying Netscape.

[thdomo]

Originally posted by TStarr:
I am using the same kind of setup:
Cable modem on Win95 machine running Wingate
Win98 machine on network
Dual boot Linux/Win98 on network.
I have no problems accessing the internet with Netscape in Linux since I can manually set the proxies. However, any other programme in Mandrake that accesses the internet, such as searching for updates, always fails, since I do not know how to set the proxies for all of the internet programmes such as ICQ, IRC, etc.
If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated, and please be detailed if I need to edit any files, since I really don't know anything about that in Linux.
Thank you.


Hey, wonder if you can help me. I've got a similar set up, only using a Mac as a gateway. I know the gatewway is working cause I've got another Mac on the Internet no problems. Here's the prob. My linux box can ping the gateway and the other host (the Mac) but it can't ping outside of the gateway to the internet.

I'm sure the gateway is cool cause if it wasnt, how could my iMac ping the net. So what gives. Ive got Mandrake and went through all the GUI programs they use. Still nothing using ping or trying Netscape.

[thdomo]

Originally posted by TStarr:
I am using the same kind of setup:
Cable modem on Win95 machine running Wingate
Win98 machine on network
Dual boot Linux/Win98 on network.
I have no problems accessing the internet with Netscape in Linux since I can manually set the proxies. However, any other programme in Mandrake that accesses the internet, such as searching for updates, always fails, since I do not know how to set the proxies for all of the internet programmes such as ICQ, IRC, etc.
If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated, and please be detailed if I need to edit any files, since I really don't know anything about that in Linux.
Thank you.


Hey, wonder if you can help me. I've got a similar set up, only using a Mac as a gateway. I know the gatewway is working cause I've got another Mac on the Internet no problems. Here's the prob. My linux box can ping the gateway and the other host (the Mac) but it can't ping outside of the gateway to the internet.

I'm sure the gateway is cool cause if it wasnt, how could my iMac ping the net. So what gives. Ive got Mandrake and went through all the GUI programs they use. Still nothing using ping or trying Netscape.

[Mountainman]

Do you have dns setup? Do you have the route to the mac specified as the gateway?

[eoghann]

If you're using Wingate 2.1 then you will experience problems with a lot of programs which access the internet. Some (such as ICQ) can be made to work through the proxy using the SOCKS protcol. However others (like most internet games for example) don't offer you the neccessary configuration options.

What you need is a NAT. Later versions of Wingate are supposed to have the neccessary options, but I was never able to get the trial version working right. In the end I went with Sygate which has been working great. You do have to buy a licence though.


Originally posted by TStarr:
I am using the same kind of setup:
Cable modem on Win95 machine running Wingate
Win98 machine on network
Dual boot Linux/Win98 on network.
I have no problems accessing the internet with Netscape in Linux since I can manually set the proxies. However, any other programme in Mandrake that accesses the internet, such as searching for updates, always fails, since I do not know how to set the proxies for all of the internet programmes such as ICQ, IRC, etc.
If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated, and please be detailed if I need to edit any files, since I really don't know anything about that in Linux.
Thank you.

[thdomo]

Originally posted by Mountainman:
Do you have dns setup? Do you have the route to the mac specified as the gateway?

Well, I filled in the fields about DNS as required by the GUI program. Only prob is I'm confused about this. Mebbe thats the prob. See on the iMac, I filled in the gateway IP address as nameserver (as my routing software op the gateway mac instructed). The iMac still works. Now, I tried both that AND using the ip addresses of my ISP's nameservers on the linux box. neither worked.

[Walking Wounded]

hi Im verry new at Linux i just installed it last night i have a similar setup that has been discribed.
i have a 98 pc with the winshare/routing tingy loaded that is connected to the internet. (this is my parents pc and i cant change it at the moment) then i have my pc that is dualbooting mandrake 7.1 and win 98 the network sharing works fine under 98 but i have no idea how to set it up or run it under linux. if i can get it up and running properly i want to trash the 98 part.
can somebody please help?

thanks.

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[Walking Wounded]

wooohooo i got it working ... mostly.
i am conected to the internet now through netscape but i would like to use an irc client too im working on that now ill let you know how it goes

i found how to do it here: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/network/analogx_winproxy.html

thanks

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