Debian (Woody) / Helix

[Mikenell]

Ok, I'm having major problems installing Helix Gnome on Debian woody. Btw, I fixed my previous problem with tcl8.2-dev and tk8.2-dev by removing them, was that a bad idea? It doesn't seem to have caused any problems though. Anyway, I did the lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh thing to download helix which downloaded fine but when it configured there were errors with libguile6, something from helix is dependant on it and helix wont totally install until the dependency problem is fixed. I tried all of these things but none of them worked and they all ended like this:

mikenell:/# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libguile6
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libguile6
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/590kB of archives. After unpacking 1331kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 47086 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libguile6 (from .../libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libguile.so', which is also in package libguile9
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
mikenell:/#


mikenell:/# dselect
running dpkg --pending --configure ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-card-games:
gnome-card-games depends on libguile6 (>= 1:1.3.4-3); however:
Package libguile6 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing gnome-card-games (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
gnome-card-games

dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1.
Press <enter> to continue.

mikenell:/#


mikenell:/# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
gnome-card-games: Depends: libguile6 (>= 1:1.3.4-3) but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
mikenell:/#


mikenell:/# apt-get install libguile6
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libguile6
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/590kB of archives. After unpacking 1331kB will be used.
(Reading database ... 47086 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libguile6 (from .../libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libguile.so', which is also in package libguile9
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-helix2_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
mikenell:/#

I tried apt-get remove libguile9 and tried renaming /usr/lib/libguile.so to /usr/lib/libguile.so.old but it still doesn't work. What do I have to do to get libguile6 to configure properly? Gnome has sort of configured but not totally, like when I start up my computer it gives me the helix login prompt and asks me to login but if I do it tries to switch to something but then just ends up back at the gnome login prompt.
Thanks
Mikenell

[Mikenell]

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif Didn't anyone else have this problem?
Mikenell

[Mikenell]

I've been trying for like an hour to get it to configure but it just won't! Isn't there anything I can do to get it to configure? I really need my system working by this weekend.
Mikenell

[Evil Jeff]

I ended up getting it installed by purging libguile9 and installing libguile6, then reinstalling libguile9 and all of the programs that I lost when I uninstalled it.

Evil Jeff
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[Mikenell]

Ok thanks! It worked. Anyway, I have one more problem. Gnome appears to be working except for these errors http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/frown.gif:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, task-helix-gnome is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
4 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up slib (2c9-3) ...
Running /usr/sbin/guile-slibconfig
ERROR: Could not find slib/require.scm in ("/usr/share/guile/site" "/usr/share/
guile/1.3.4" "/usr/share/guile" ".")
dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libguile6-slib:
libguile6-slib depends on slib (>= 2c3); however:
Package slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libguile6-slib (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnucash:
gnucash depends on slib; however:
Package slib is not configured yet.
gnucash depends on libguile6-slib; however:
Package libguile6-slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gnucash (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of task-helix-gnome:
task-helix-gnome depends on gnucash; however:
Package gnucash is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing task-helix-gnome (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
slib
libguile6-slib
gnucash
task-helix-gnome
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Install finished!

mikenell:~#

Anyone know how I can fix THESE? Then I guess it'll be all done!
Mikenell

[mdwatts]

Not everyone has the same problems as you have all the time. As I've said before to you, be patient while waiting for a response or get paid support.

If you would leave you system alone without always having to have the latest and best of everything, I would think your system would be up and running this weekend.

I'm sorry if I come off sounding critical, but with the amount of work you seem to have done over the past few months (distro install, upgrades, you name it), you should be well ahead of anyone else here at LNO. I have no idea myself about Debian/apt-get and suppose the percentage of Debian users are not the same as Redhat, Mandrake or other popular distros.

You always seems to get your posts responded to in a fairly timely manner, so if you have to wait a few extra minutes for a Debian pro to help, then spend your time researching the problem elsewhere such as Debian's support/knowledgebase.

Again I apologize if this post upsets some, but some here may understand.

Good Luck and have a Merry Christmas.

mdwatts

[Mikenell]

Well I'm hoping this will be the last time I have to reinstall because I've tried quite a few different distros now and like Debian the best. My problem is a missing file require.scm which *should* be in /usr/share/guile/ or one of its sub directories, unfortunatly, it isnt there. And I'm sorry if I'm impatient waiting for replys, but I get kind of annoyed when fixing one problem just produces another one, heh.
Thanks
Mikenell

[ndogg]

Let us know how it all works out after you reinstall everything. I don't ever remember having such errors when trying to install Helixcode Gnome.

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[mdwatts]

I didn't have one single error installing Helix-Gnome on Caldera's eDesktop. Since you have tried quite a few distros, how about eDesktop? Always seems to detect most if not all of my hardware and X always works perfectly after the initial install. I've installed on IBM, Dell, 4 or 5 year old Compaq's up to the current Deskpro's, my home built PC and my laptop. Everything always works, video, ethernet, sound etc.

Mike,

You live in English do you not? I was born in Northampton, but have lived in Toronto most of my life.

[Mikenell]

Yeah I live in England, quite far form Northampton tho.
I'm not gonna reinstall this time, I'm gonna keep trying to get this fixed, its definitly a problem with the slib package.
Mikenell

[Mikenell]

Ok someone sent me that require.scm file and now i get a different error. Btw, I'm not sure I got the whole file but i think I did.
The error I get now is:

Setting up slib (2c9-3) ...
Running /usr/sbin/guile-slibconfig
ERROR: In procedure open-file:
ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/guile/slib/mklibcat"
dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2

It seems I have something not installed that should be, does anyone know what these files are and where they are from? And any packages I can download or apt-get to install them?
Thanks
Mikenell

[Mikenell]

It is fixed! If anyone else has this problem, check /usr/share/ you will probably have an slib dir, copy it into /usr/share/guile/ because it is apparently installed in the wrong place.
Mikenell

[ColdPack]

Originally posted by Mikenell:
It is fixed! If anyone else has this problem, check /usr/share/ you will probably have an slib dir, copy it into /usr/share/guile/ because it is apparently installed in the wrong place.
Mikenell

May I say congratulations?!
Good for you Mikenell! Glad you got thorugh it. To be quite honest, I haven't had these problems but I haven't upgraded to Helix in a while (did it some time back). Perhaps some things have changed (er... broke) in recent weeks.
Hopefully wrinkles like these will soon be ironed out wherever they might be occurring.


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Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake
when you make it again.
_- Franklin P. Jones

[SlCKB0Y]

Originally posted by mdwatts:
Not everyone has the same problems as you have all the time. As I've said before to you, be patient while waiting for a response or get paid support.

If you would leave you system alone without always having to have the latest and best of everything, I would think your system would be up and running this weekend.

I'm sorry if I come off sounding critical, but with the amount of work you seem to have done over the past few months (distro install, upgrades, you name it), you should be well ahead of anyone else here at LNO. I have no idea myself about Debian/apt-get and suppose the percentage of Debian users are not the same as Redhat, Mandrake or other popular distros.

You always seems to get your posts responded to in a fairly timely manner, so if you have to wait a few extra minutes for a Debian pro to help, then spend your time researching the problem elsewhere such as Debian's support/knowledgebase.

Again I apologize if this post upsets some, but some here may understand.

Good Luck and have a Merry Christmas.

mdwatts

See, ****wits like you really piss me off. You spend ages typing about how he should get his own help, do his own research bla bl abla

1. If you dont think his questions are 31337 h4x0r d00d material, then dont ****ing answer him. But also dont lecture him like you own the damn forum. Self righteousness will get you lots of places...most of them bad.

2. Secondly, if YOU had been in his boat, as i have, you would know how frustrating this problem is. I had this EXACT problem, and it drove me crazy for ages. Its only a small thing but it really bugged me. And there is NOTHING on this problem on the websites, this seems more like a bad dependancy setup on the part of the helix gnome people.

Having said that, miknell, the answer to your problem involves using dselect. Go into de select, and then remove something like slib. It will automatically remove all the things depemndant on it for you. I think it ended up that i found that for me, that libguile6 and 9 would not coexist nicely on my system. I found that a lot of programs relied on 9, but i think only like gnumeric or something like that relies on 6, which i removed. I then installed 9, and then slib installed fine and all the other stuff too. Of course task-helix-gnome depends on gnumeric so that must be removed to. Hmm.. maybe it was gnucash...but youll soon find out what it was.

HTH

[Mikenell]

Yeah it is REALLY frustrating when things just won't work and refuse to configure! But its all working now and I'm even posting this from in Galeon.
Thanks everyone.
Mikenell