Ximian GNOME 1.4 - Worth the upgrade?

[Hummer]

Hey all,

I'm currently running GNOME 1.2 (which is the default version of GNOME that the RedHat 7.1 distro ships with) with the sensational Enlightenment WM (E16) - which I admit I'm quiet happy with. But recently I've been eyeing off Ximian GNOME 1.4. You know how it is - the need for the most recent version; the fastest, the best, the latest.

So anyway, is it worth the 80mb download to get Ximian GNOME 1.4. Is it worth the effort? Aside from Nautilus, will I gain anything, or is it an upgrade I should consider non-essential?

Any comments from Ximian GNOME 1.4 users and those who have upgraded would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Hummer

[possumpuss]

this is just my opinion but

no

it's too buggy

[fancypiper]

I like it and I think it is less buggy than 1.2.

Nautilus is rather slow and in development just now, so I try each new update for a while and then revert back to gmc for my file manager so far.

[Marcel2008]

Gnome 1.4 sucks. Don't install it.
It's slow and buggy.

Btw. you can't uninstall it.

[Dan Duane]

I think it, along with Mdk 8.0 sucks (where'd I put those Mdk 7.2 Cd's?) I'd stay with 1.2 . Gnome 1.4 seems too buggy/slow, I switched to Blackbox after using 1.4 after a week and have been happy since.

Dan

[MandK_10]

:( Nautilus :(

You know how it is - the need for the most recent version; the fastest, the best, the latest.

No I do not know how it is. My personal opinion is that if you need the latest greatest then you are doing something wrong. If you look hard enough in this BBS you will find many posts of people who upgrade only to be disappointed.

If you are happy and things work, then stick with it (if it aint broke dont fixit).

JM$.02

Mike

[ 21 July 2001: Message edited by: MandK_10 ]

[seeker22]

Gnome 1.4 runs fine for me but there is two bad bugs in it that is very annoying, When you set mime types it never changes them! and your monitor will not power down if you have a screen saver on for some reason. other than that it works good for me, But the only thing I use gnome for is 1 little floating bar the rest is E

[seeker22]

Hmm, come to think of it I run RedHat 7.1 now and gnome still does that to. well they better fix those bugs anyway! there annoying

[Hummer]

Thanks for the heads-up guys - I thought I'd let you all know that I went ahead and upgraded. At the time of doing so there was only two replies to this thread (one pro and one con), but I did a lot of reasearch of my own and went ahead.

My thoughts on Ximian GNOME 1.4 - it's honestly not a lot different than 1.2, other than that it looks a lot cleaner and offers some extra functionality. It also helped cleared out a few niggling bugs - mostly thanks to haphazzardly installed packages I goofed when I first installed RedHat with GNOME 1.2. All of those are gone, and so are some of the dodgy and useless apps that GOME 1.2/RedHat 7.1 shipped with.

The pros: it looks cleaner and smoother, and the bootup screen is excellent. There's a lot more customization, and many more uituitive options in the Control Center. It also feels a lot less "clunky" than the 1.2, but that's because I spent this weekend refining my desktop (esp. making my E theme less "dark"!). As for speed - Nautilis is obviously slower than Midnight Commander, but only because it looks so much better and does cool things like render thumbnail images of pictures and such. On my Duron 800 w/GeForce 2, it's not enough to complain about - and I think the gloss is good for making GNOME more sexy (if you really need speed and versatility, GMC is still there). Red Carpet is also an excellent program - it doesn't really do anything that I couldn't do manually, but it takes 5 minutes less and generally takes the hassle out of downloading and installing RPMs.

The cons: Where'd all my custom-tweaked menus go to? All that time creating launchers and menu items; all gone! And why does my CPU clock in GKrelM always show 100% (probably because it's working it's *** off too keep up a smooth pace)? Also, I'm kind of dissapointed that Ximian GNOME isn't different enough - I mean, it's basically a bit newer and a bit glossier, but more or less the same old same old. That's good in that nothing on my system has been screwed by the upgrade (just a few bug fixes), but some of the same old downfalls are still there, and that 131mb of downloaded data didn't seem as epic an upgrade as I thought it would be!

Sorry for the rank - I've notice this forum us more used to short, susinct replies. Just thought I'd offer my opinion for anyone else pondering the upgrade question.

Cheers all,

Hummer

[Hummer]

"If you are happy and things work, then stick with it (if it aint broke dont fixit)."

BTW - I cant say I fully agree with this mythos. To a degree, this "if it aint broke, don't fix it" line is true, but for the most part, Windows 98 wasn;t really broke - it was a lust for the unknown, and a lust for the different that took me to Linux. If everyone sat back and said "hey, Windoze works (more or less) and is good enough for me", I don't see a bright future for Linux.

Besides - my comment about needing the best, fastest, and newest, was purely facesious.

Hummer

[bobtcowboy]

Originally posted by Hummer:
<STRONG>And why does my CPU clock in GKrelM always show 100% (probably because it's working it's *** off too keep up a smooth pace)? </STRONG>

OT? but I heard that the reason GKrellM shows 100% cpu use is from using kernel 2.4.x.... I believe I read this on the GKrellM homepage

Bill

[fancypiper]

Originally posted by Hummer:
<STRONG>BTW - I cant say I fully agree with this mythos. To a degree, this "if it aint broke, don't fix it" line is true, but for the most part, Windows 98 wasn;t really broke </STRONG>

I don't agree. Windows98 is definately broken and I see no indication that Microsoft intends to fix it.

An operating system shouldn't freeze and require rebooting if you simply click on a link in a web browser. The day that my computer had to be rebooted 3 times in less than 10 minutes was the day I started downloading Linux. BTW, I had to do it twice as Windows once again froze for no reason that I could discern.