cup hs/fan change

[jmcross]

I have an Athlon T-bird 1.2 ghz. I bought the system barebones, and I put all my other components in it. I suspect that the fan that it came with is not sufficient. I was thinking of putting a more powerful hs/fan on it and I have heard horror stories about even putting on a hs/fan. What ar your thoughts on changing it out.

Also according to AMD the max temp is about 95 deg C. Now I know most people will tell you that this is way too hot. What do you think about this temp. Mine does not nearly run at 95, it usually is at about 55 to 60.

thanks in advance.

[MBMarduk]

Take a look at www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com) and www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com) because they both have very recently tested and reported about 40-50 different hs/fan combos for the Athlon.
A pretty good combo will give around 50-52 C.
IIRC the best and most unorthodox fan-based solutions availble go to around 38 C.
Below that you'll need Peltier stuff, A/C or water. :)

[jmcross]

thanks, do you think I will run to great of a risk of damaging my cpu in changing out my hs/fan

[-=StlthMd=-]

Not if you are EXTREMELY careful! Just don't FORCE anything, that does the damage in most cases.

Stealth -

[MBMarduk]

The AMD wesite has a detailed manual with pictures on how to do this in PDF format.I d/l-ed it awhile ago.
It shouldn't be all that difficult although it _can_ be with some mobos (socket made not quite right, capacitors placed awkwardly...)

Like um, the person before me said:"Don't force anything."
If it won't work; lay-off and grab some fresh air and then come back.
I wish _I'd_ listened to my own advice sometimes ;)

[jmcross]

thanks guys, I will give it a try

[antitrustworthy]

Hey, if you buy a CPU shim, you have a better chance at not cracking your core. Go to www.coolerguys.com. (http://www.coolerguys.com.) They have everything you need there to get your system nice and frosty. I just bought a shim, a HSF, and some Arctic Silver II. Make sure you dont get a copper shim if you do...they can burn out your core.(conductive metals are bad)

Thats my advice! Ive got a T-bird 1.2 as well.

[DPfug]

My 2cents worth...First off, like someone else said, "if you get a shim, DONT get copper". I personally dont think you need a shim, just care and patience! My choice on HSF is the GlobalWin FOP32...best bang for the buck. The FOP38 will get things a little cooler, but alot louder! Unless you're overclocking or have a poorly designed case, the FOP32 should do fine. Also, get some ArticSilver (or ArticSilver II)thermal compound. Put just a very thin layer down on the underside of the heatsink with a razor blade. DONT try to put it on the processor core!!! Then, when you're ready to put it all on, make sure you have it aligned properly to the socket (the socket has one side raised up and the HS has an indention for this)then, MOST IMPORTANTLY put easy pressure STRAIGHT DOWN while attaching the retaining clip. The processor's silicone core is exposed (thats the little square you see on top - remember, silicone is basically just thin glass!). It doesnt take too much to chip or crack it, so keep things on straight and try not to wiggle it around. Other than that, you're all set to go! With that combination you should be getting temps of around 50-55c idle and 55-65c under load, but remember every chip is different, and if its running stable at a reasonable temp (under 70c loaded) then its running at the right temp for you! If you need any more help on building or updating your PC feel free to email me, Ive done more than my share of AMD's and Intel's.

[jmcross]

thanks DPfug I was going to get a GlobalWin hs/fan combo. mine seems to go at about 70 C. I read the hs/fan installation guide that AMD puts out. I have done it before but on p150. I just heard that these new processors from AMD were fragile.

thanks.

[Molecule Man]

You can also try Nanotherm (http://www.overclockersclub.com/nanotherm.shtml) which seems to be a little better than arctic silver with fewer negatives (primarily it is not electrically conductive).