HP SureStore Dat 24 Tape Drive

[kernel4x]

Hi folks:
:confused: i need some helps on the installation of HP SureStore Dat24 Tape drive attached to the initio 9100 SCSI controller on a RedHat 6.2 Box ....
:( please advise me step by step details in both command mode and in GNOME or KDE.

thkx in advance

k

[bdg1983]

What needs to be installed? The scsi controller and the dat drive?

Has your scsi controller been detected during install?

[kernel4x]

> What needs to be installed? The scsi
> controller and the dat drive?
> Has your scsi controller been detected
> during install?

Yes! i do notice that i should have not need anything difficult to configure the dat tape drive on a scsi ...
In most of the situations the tape drive should be detected also if the scsi controller is detected during the boot time ...
Now my problem is that the scsi controller is detected while booting but tape drive is not (also with the tape loaded during boot time) ....
So, i tried to recompile the kernel with all of the scsi tape features but the same ...
I found only scsi related howtos instead of the tape howto ...
i read all of them but they have not covered the troubleshooting area ..
(may be they assumed all the tape drives on a detected scsi controller should work ...)
i assumed too. .... but it didn't ..
that's why my question comes in this discussion area ...
(BTW.. i'm 100% sure my tape drive is in working condition coz' i took it off from the working M$ WindozeBOX)
i'm still searching for the infos but i havn't got a real solution which suits my problem till now ....
so, i will very much appreciate to you all if any one could help me this case ...

^-^

[bdg1983]

This link is from Caldera and is for Dat drives for Unix (http://support.caldera.com/caldera/solution?11=110689&130=0944866934&14=&2715=&15=&2716=&57=search&58=&2900=xnATu0tGVg&25=6&3=dat ) though it may help.

This one is a Google search for Dat drives (http://www.google.com/linux?site=search&restrict=linux&hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off&q=dat+drives&btnG=Google+Search) which got quite a few results.

Should be something there to get you going.

[ 13 August 2001: Message edited by: mdwatts the 3rd ]

[ 13 August 2001: Message edited by: mdwatts the 3rd ]

[stiles]

when you run menuconfig there is an option something like, support for scsi tape drives. Is that compiled into the kernel? Have you tried to use the mt command to move the tape?

[kernel4x]

> when you run menuconfig there is an option
> something like, support for scsi tape
> drives. Is that compiled into the kernel?

Yes it is .....
that's the one i specifically searched for when i compiled ...

> Have you tried to use the mt command to
> move the tape?

i tried (without success...)
mt -t /dev/st0 status
mt -t /dev/st0 rewind
mt -f /dev/st0 status
mt -f /dev/st0 rewind

but the problem is that the tape (st0) is not listed in dmesg yet !!!

i'm still working on that problem till now ...
i really appreciate you guys infos and helps ...
please keep giving me more advise ...
thkx ...

[ 12 August 2001: Message edited by: kernel4x ]

[ 12 August 2001: Message edited by: kernel4x ]

[kernel4x]

I'm a bit feeling upset for i still can't make any improvements about the problem....
do u guys hv any more idea ???

[bdg1983]

So the scsi controller is detected and working, but the tape drive is not?

Any conflict with the scsi id of the tape drive and have you enabled whatever is necessary in the scsi controller bios?

[kernel4x]

the scsi is on ID 7 and tape drv is on ID 4.
i tried assigning diff IDs for the tape already .....
(it is working fine on win9x/NT ...
it is installed in a same PC which i'm swapping diff: HDDs to use either RedHat Linux or other OSs )
:(
i can't find any solution for my problem anywhere till now ....
i really need to make that tape workin as i want to run it on Linux......

thkx in advance,

[ 15 August 2001: Message edited by: kernel4x ]

[tecknophreak]

Let me see if I'm at the same spot as you are...

You've got the SCSI tape drive connected to the SCSI controller. The controller is found just fine. If you do a cat /proc/scsi/scsi, is the scsi tape drive described there? Then mt commands won't work and you can't find the tape drive on /dev/st0 or /dev/nst0? That's where I'm at. Very upsetting. I'll give an update if I find something.

[kernel4x]

it said:
"attched devices: none"

any more advice ???

[tecknophreak]

Build a new kernel? You should need to add scsi tape support. Check it out. I'm working on one right now.

[kernel4x]

if u read my earlier messages again, u will notice i alredy tried that ..
it didn't work ...
friends, i really need to solve that problem ....
i'm still finding the ways .. but seems like something is missing in the middle ...

[bdg1983]

Here's my latest .config but remember it is mine and I've set it for scsi emulation (CDRW) support.

Verify that yours is correct for scsi support, scsi tape support and the scsi low level drivers for your scsi controller.

Go through the whole kernel configuration options elsewhere to verify there is nothing else you need.

#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=m

#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set # NEED THIS
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set
CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m

#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set

Whatever is the low level driver for your scsi controller.

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_1280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG is not set

[tecknophreak]

WooHoo!!! I gots my tape drive up n running. Remade the kernel. Here's my SCSI part, I have an adaptec 2940u2w, I like it. I configured SCSI support with a 'y' and ST support with a 'y' too, and that didn't work, works w/ 'm'. Anyway here:

#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR is not set
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m
CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES=y
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=m
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_TCQ_ON_BY_DEFAULT=y
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=8
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS=y
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY=5
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=20
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PQS_PDS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYMBIOS_COMPAT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_1280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG is not set

[bdg1983]

Congrats tecknophreak. It's about damn time you got it working. :D

Where there you go kernel4x. Like I keep saying, make sure you have everything that's required setup in the kernel. If necessary (and I imagine it will be) compile the kernel for the scsi support.

My example is for scsi emulation as I don't have any real scsi devices in this pc, only a PD Drive.

[tecknophreak]

Originally posted by mdwatts the 3rd:
<STRONG>Congrats tecknophreak. It's about damn time you got it working. :D
</STRONG>

See what had happened was, I needed to change distros in the middle of that whole thing, so that took a bit of time. :p

But it did take two compiles to get it working correctly. :mad:

[bdg1983]

Persistance pays off. Good job.

Do you think it was the result of changing distros or the fact you recompiled the kernel to include the necessary support?

[tecknophreak]

Originally posted by mdwatts the 3rd:
<STRONG>
Do you think it was the result of changing distros or the fact you recompiled the kernel to include the necessary support?</STRONG>

Recompiled the kernel. I could have put a new kernel into the old distro, but I would have had to compile it in RH and move libraries, drivers and all sorts of thing over, I'm guessing. I've never made a kernel in another system then moved it over so I don't know if that would work, or how to do it. Since I'm on a limited schedule, I did it the way I knew(hoped) would work.

[bdg1983]

Thanks...

I'm actually asking on behalf on kernel4x.

Haven't heard a peep out of 4x for a couple of days, so I don't know if the tape drive problem is fixed, or has just given up.

We tried though and that's all we can do.