nick098
05-24-2001, 09:27 PM
I have the downloaded version of Corel Linux and was told that that isn't the best version. But what is the best version then?
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bdl
05-24-2001, 09:31 PM
Debian (http://www.debian.org)
(what, what are you all looking at me like that for?)
:D
(what, what are you all looking at me like that for?)
:D
FoBoT
05-24-2001, 09:35 PM
don't listen to the zealot
try all of them
do you only try vanilla when you go to the ice cream shop??
use corel for a couple weeks, then try mandrake, then red hat, then dorkwad linux, then mybestlinuxever linux, just try them, that is the :cool: thing, you can see what happens, if you get stuck with one, then try something else :)
good luck and welcome to LNO! ;)
try all of them
do you only try vanilla when you go to the ice cream shop??
use corel for a couple weeks, then try mandrake, then red hat, then dorkwad linux, then mybestlinuxever linux, just try them, that is the :cool: thing, you can see what happens, if you get stuck with one, then try something else :)
good luck and welcome to LNO! ;)
nick098
05-24-2001, 09:41 PM
The only thing is as of now i have no computer that i can install any of them on and i wont for a month or two
bdl
05-24-2001, 09:43 PM
zealot? me? never! :D
Seriously though, FoBoT is right. I started out with FreeBSD, then Redhat, Mandrake, Slackware and now I'm a Debian junkie. Try out as many distros as you wish, or roll your own with the LFS (http://linuxfromscratch.org/). Enjoy!
Seriously though, FoBoT is right. I started out with FreeBSD, then Redhat, Mandrake, Slackware and now I'm a Debian junkie. Try out as many distros as you wish, or roll your own with the LFS (http://linuxfromscratch.org/). Enjoy!
FoBoT
05-24-2001, 09:54 PM
that was supposed to say "zealots" meaning distro biggots in general, nobody specific :rolleyes:
no offense intended (unless you are a distro biggot :p )
no offense intended (unless you are a distro biggot :p )
FoBoT
05-24-2001, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by nick098:
<STRONG>The only thing is as of now i have no computer that i can install any of them on and i wont for a month or two</STRONG>
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that is a small problem, i suppose ;)
well, there is plenty of good stuff to read here and we like to have fun, so if you like to have fun and read good linux BS, then you found the right place! ;)
<STRONG>The only thing is as of now i have no computer that i can install any of them on and i wont for a month or two</STRONG>
o
that is a small problem, i suppose ;)
well, there is plenty of good stuff to read here and we like to have fun, so if you like to have fun and read good linux BS, then you found the right place! ;)
nick098
05-24-2001, 09:56 PM
every body i know says to use either this form or that form. But i think for now i will obtain redhat b/c it is supposed to be easy to configure for a notebook
FoBoT
05-24-2001, 09:58 PM
i just loaded mandrake 8 onto a laptop, no probs
:)
:)
nick098
05-24-2001, 10:05 PM
As far as i know Linux is the best operating system especialy because so many companies make it :)
DMR
05-24-2001, 11:14 PM
Linux is a good, stable, highly customizable OS, but it isn't an OS for point-and-click zombies- even if you consider yourself a Windows/Mac guru, get ready for a bit of a learning curve. With that in mind, you might want to search the forums (http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=search) for previous discussions on the merits/demerits of a given form (they're called "distributions" or "distros" for short) of Linux. Using the keywords "which distro" should return more (*ahem*) advice than you could read in a month. Just beware of the distro fanatics, especially the Slackware Jihad. ;)
kuber
05-24-2001, 11:17 PM
Linux from scratch.
Coral Sea
05-24-2001, 11:27 PM
Here's a good answer -- it depends. Do you want ease of installation and the latest and greatest? Do you want to hack away at the guts of Linux for fun?
I'd say that if you're just starting out, then try Mandrake 8.0 first. After you get the hang of it, try other distros if you want.
I would not suggest starting with Corel because it doesn't have a great reputation. And, because I tried it and didn't care for it.
If you want a Debian variant of Linux (which Corel is) that is polished, try Storm Linux. If you want a Debian variant that is unpolished, try Progeny. Or, if you love adventure, install Debian raw.
I'd say that if you're just starting out, then try Mandrake 8.0 first. After you get the hang of it, try other distros if you want.
I would not suggest starting with Corel because it doesn't have a great reputation. And, because I tried it and didn't care for it.
If you want a Debian variant of Linux (which Corel is) that is polished, try Storm Linux. If you want a Debian variant that is unpolished, try Progeny. Or, if you love adventure, install Debian raw.
nick098
05-25-2001, 08:52 AM
Why would i try corel again? I hated it when i used it. the truth is that i was thinking of going with Red Hat
cga
05-25-2001, 09:12 AM
Mandrake is quite good, and is very easy to install and configure. It also provides a lot of additional software that you might otherwise have to download.
I started with Red Hat, then migrated to Mndrake 7.2 and plan to stay here a while.
[ 25 May 2001: Message edited by: cga ]
I started with Red Hat, then migrated to Mndrake 7.2 and plan to stay here a while.
[ 25 May 2001: Message edited by: cga ]
StanLin
05-25-2001, 09:26 AM
:cool: Red Hat :cool:
Lend273
05-25-2001, 09:45 AM
I am by no means an expert, and am still learning, but this is how I progressed through the distros:
1. redhat 7.0 - didnt like rpm's
2. SuSE 7.0 - nice but not quite.
3. StormLinux - debian but went under.
4. Libranet - excellent debian distro.
5. Progeny - just to try another debian distro. Not as good as Libranet.
6. Back to Libranet 1.9.0 - Excellent!!!!
It's a learning curve. You can either jump
right in to debian and work out the bugs
or start with a more newbie freindly distro
like RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE and learn as you go.
Either way, you're a winner with Linux and
LNO!
Len
1. redhat 7.0 - didnt like rpm's
2. SuSE 7.0 - nice but not quite.
3. StormLinux - debian but went under.
4. Libranet - excellent debian distro.
5. Progeny - just to try another debian distro. Not as good as Libranet.
6. Back to Libranet 1.9.0 - Excellent!!!!
It's a learning curve. You can either jump
right in to debian and work out the bugs
or start with a more newbie freindly distro
like RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE and learn as you go.
Either way, you're a winner with Linux and
LNO!
Len
GonzoJohn
05-25-2001, 11:05 AM
The age old distro question really isn't summed up with a single "X is best, here's why...". I think most of the popular distros have pros and cons. It's really a matter of your computer experience to determine the best Linux distribution to start with.
Red Hat 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0 are excellent distros for Linux newbies to cut their teeth on. They're easy to install, and the desktops are easy to look at. Both install fairly recent versions of GNOME and KDE, with Mandrake leaning more heavily toward KDE and Red Hat toward GNOME.
The desktop stuff, though important to newbies and old pros alike, really can be configured on ANY GNU/Linux distro. The important thing to remember is that all the software underneath the desktop is there, no matter what distro you try.
True, some distro specific tools, like Debians apt, make life easier for the admin, but I wouldn't recommend Debian 2.2r3 (Potato) to a newbie because of apt. I've found that the longer you use multiple distros of GNU/Linux, that you'll find yourself drifting toward Debian and Debian-based ones because they do make admin much easier.
Your best bet is to buy several distros at Cheapbytes.com, or somewhere like that and try them out. The latest commercial versions are all pretty easy to install. But installation is only a small slice of a much bigger cake.
Anyway, that's just my opinion, yada yada yada
[ 25 May 2001: Message edited by: GonzoJohn ]
Red Hat 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0 are excellent distros for Linux newbies to cut their teeth on. They're easy to install, and the desktops are easy to look at. Both install fairly recent versions of GNOME and KDE, with Mandrake leaning more heavily toward KDE and Red Hat toward GNOME.
The desktop stuff, though important to newbies and old pros alike, really can be configured on ANY GNU/Linux distro. The important thing to remember is that all the software underneath the desktop is there, no matter what distro you try.
True, some distro specific tools, like Debians apt, make life easier for the admin, but I wouldn't recommend Debian 2.2r3 (Potato) to a newbie because of apt. I've found that the longer you use multiple distros of GNU/Linux, that you'll find yourself drifting toward Debian and Debian-based ones because they do make admin much easier.
Your best bet is to buy several distros at Cheapbytes.com, or somewhere like that and try them out. The latest commercial versions are all pretty easy to install. But installation is only a small slice of a much bigger cake.
Anyway, that's just my opinion, yada yada yada
[ 25 May 2001: Message edited by: GonzoJohn ]
Coral Sea
05-25-2001, 01:42 PM
Just a quick word on Mandrake. A lot has been said about how easy it is to install and how great it is for beginners, which is true. However, the way some people put it, it sounds like it's only for beginners, which is false.
Anything that you can do in any other distro of Linux, you can do in Mandrake. The procedures might be a little different (e.g., apt-get vs. rpm), but the end results are the same.
The reverse is not true. There are many things that Mandrake offers that are not available (or are available in a much cruder form) in other distros.
Based on my experiences, RH seems to be a step behind Mandrake and their distro tends to be buggier. And, that's what you'll read on the Web, too.
Anything that you can do in any other distro of Linux, you can do in Mandrake. The procedures might be a little different (e.g., apt-get vs. rpm), but the end results are the same.
The reverse is not true. There are many things that Mandrake offers that are not available (or are available in a much cruder form) in other distros.
Based on my experiences, RH seems to be a step behind Mandrake and their distro tends to be buggier. And, that's what you'll read on the Web, too.
xulfralos
05-25-2001, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by nick098:
<STRONG>As far as i know Linux is the best operating system especialy because so many companies make it :)</STRONG>
AHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!
That was a good one!
Seriously tho, there is no 'best' operating system, it's all a matter of:
Does it have all the software you need?
Does it work the way it should?
Is it stable?
Does it support all your hardware?
Is it secure?
Is there sufficient documentation and resources to help you in a pinch?
I prefer BSD because:
It's simpler to configure.
More stable.
Kernel compilations are a snap.
Much more secure, with OpenSSH/OpenSSL included by default.
BSD TCP/IP stack is legendary for its performance.
Ports and packages are great.
Upgrading is possible without reinstalling.
Documentation is excellent.
IPv6 capability is included by default.
Code quality is much higher.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
<STRONG>As far as i know Linux is the best operating system especialy because so many companies make it :)</STRONG>
AHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!
That was a good one!
Seriously tho, there is no 'best' operating system, it's all a matter of:
Does it have all the software you need?
Does it work the way it should?
Is it stable?
Does it support all your hardware?
Is it secure?
Is there sufficient documentation and resources to help you in a pinch?
I prefer BSD because:
It's simpler to configure.
More stable.
Kernel compilations are a snap.
Much more secure, with OpenSSH/OpenSSL included by default.
BSD TCP/IP stack is legendary for its performance.
Ports and packages are great.
Upgrading is possible without reinstalling.
Documentation is excellent.
IPv6 capability is included by default.
Code quality is much higher.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
nick098
05-25-2001, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by xulfralos:
<STRONG>AHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!
That was a good one!
Seriously tho, there is no 'best' operating system, it's all a matter of:
Does it have all the software you need?
Does it work the way it should?
Is it stable?
Does it support all your hardware?
Is it secure?
Is there sufficient documentation and resources to help you in a pinch?
I prefer BSD because:
It's simpler to configure.
More stable.
Kernel compilations are a snap.
Much more secure, with OpenSSH/OpenSSL included by default.
BSD TCP/IP stack is legendary for its performance.
Ports and packages are great.
Upgrading is possible without reinstalling.
Documentation is excellent.
IPv6 capability is included by default.
Code quality is much higher.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.</STRONG>
I probobly should have worded that differently what i ment is any form of Unix is better then Mac, DOS, and Windows and i havent tried anything else so i wouldent know about them
<STRONG>AHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!
That was a good one!
Seriously tho, there is no 'best' operating system, it's all a matter of:
Does it have all the software you need?
Does it work the way it should?
Is it stable?
Does it support all your hardware?
Is it secure?
Is there sufficient documentation and resources to help you in a pinch?
I prefer BSD because:
It's simpler to configure.
More stable.
Kernel compilations are a snap.
Much more secure, with OpenSSH/OpenSSL included by default.
BSD TCP/IP stack is legendary for its performance.
Ports and packages are great.
Upgrading is possible without reinstalling.
Documentation is excellent.
IPv6 capability is included by default.
Code quality is much higher.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.</STRONG>
I probobly should have worded that differently what i ment is any form of Unix is better then Mac, DOS, and Windows and i havent tried anything else so i wouldent know about them
dageekster
05-25-2001, 10:50 PM
Try them all :-) then try to make your own version. Mold ot like wet clay shape it to what you want. Take from all and make it to what you feel is right. There is not a best only what do you want it to do. :cool:
nathaniel
05-26-2001, 02:21 AM
a working copy :p
nick098
05-27-2001, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by nathaniel:
<STRONG>a working copy :p</STRONG>
I would probobly agree to this one the most
:)
<STRONG>a working copy :p</STRONG>
I would probobly agree to this one the most
:)
killerasp
05-27-2001, 10:23 PM
KILL THiS TOPIC. THIS IS GETTING REALLY OLD!!!
nick098
05-27-2001, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by killerasp:
<STRONG>KILL THiS TOPIC. THIS IS GETTING REALLY OLD!!!</STRONG>
Due to the request of the the writer above this topic is officaly closed.
<STRONG>KILL THiS TOPIC. THIS IS GETTING REALLY OLD!!!</STRONG>
Due to the request of the the writer above this topic is officaly closed.
FoBoT
05-27-2001, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by nick098:
<STRONG>Due to the request of the the writer above this topic is officaly closed.</STRONG>
you can't close a thread, but you can delete it, if you want
just go to the first post, and click "edit", then on the left side of the screen is a delete this thread checkbox, that will nuke the whole thread ;)
<STRONG>Due to the request of the the writer above this topic is officaly closed.</STRONG>
you can't close a thread, but you can delete it, if you want
just go to the first post, and click "edit", then on the left side of the screen is a delete this thread checkbox, that will nuke the whole thread ;)
nick098
05-29-2001, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>you can't close a thread, but you can delete it, if you want
just go to the first post, and click "edit", then on the left side of the screen is a delete this thread checkbox, that will nuke the whole thread ;)</STRONG>
I was jokeing
<STRONG>you can't close a thread, but you can delete it, if you want
just go to the first post, and click "edit", then on the left side of the screen is a delete this thread checkbox, that will nuke the whole thread ;)</STRONG>
I was jokeing
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