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stick
05-04-2001, 09:36 PM
ok now i am totally stuck... the install starts... then gets to a screen where i can hit enter or f1 to get help, i hit enter... then it says bla bla bla, then detecting hardware... it does this and that... then when it gets to the line:
md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REEL=8
IT JUST SITS THERE, NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS... I THEN THOUGHT MAYBE IT NEEDS MORE TIME... WENT OUT FOR DINNER... STILL THERE... WHAT IS GOING ON????? :confused: :confused: :mad: :mad: :eek: :eek: :mad:
Tyr-7BE
05-04-2001, 11:35 PM
If you choose different options up to that point, does it still stay frozen? At this point have you chosen your mount points? Mine went smoothly but I formatted all my partitions first.
stick
05-05-2001, 12:21 AM
I am trying to install over red hat... never gets to anything... does it all on its own.. is detecting hardware... think it is trying to load the kernel at this point then wham .. frozen. %$#^
Tyr-7BE
05-05-2001, 12:56 AM
Install over RH? Does it give you the option to wipe your partition clean? I'm pretty sure you can't smack a Debian install over a RH one.
stick
05-05-2001, 01:00 AM
what else can i do?
i don't have partition magic... i figured somewhere in the install it would give me the chance to delete the redhat partitions and make new ones... I JUST DON'T GET IT... I am so mad rigth now... have searched debian too... you click on support... and then it brings you to HELL!!!!
GIVES YOU AN IRC... NO ONE WOULD ANSWER ME... AND I WENT FROM THIS LINK TO THAT AND NEVER FOUND A PERSON, OR AN ANSWER OR SOMEONE TO GET AN ANSWER FROM... THAT SUCKED ***... I AM SO READY TO SAY FSCK DEBIAN. :mad:
655321
05-05-2001, 01:52 AM
You should use fdisk to delete your Red Hat partition before hand. You gotta boot from floppy to do that. Every distro I've seen (on CD) has fdisk somewhere on it, like in utils, or somehting like that. I've only used it a couple of times, so someone else is probably better off telling you how to use it, its a little complicated, but not too bad.
stick
05-05-2001, 02:08 AM
is this what is causing the install to freeze?
i don't even think it is setting up the recover part of the install...
but i am willing to try anything at this point...
stick
05-05-2001, 03:18 AM
that didn't help at all... same problem! screw it... so sick and tired of trying... debian doesn't like my system... tired of reading this book... it has no answers to why this is happening to me...
i am just going to write it off as:
one book + cd that i purchased to cure my longing to know what the debian hype was all about... i guess for me it was irritation.. :( I will just install redhat back on... not because i am so in love with the installer... just because deb did not work on my computer... i read the book, wrote down all of the info they said... went over the chapter on install again and again... it just never let me get that far... i am so dissapointed i really am... and it's late and i am going to bed...
Tyr-7BE
05-05-2001, 03:26 AM
well I'm right sorry to hear that. Perhaps it's a hardware configuration that the installer doesn't like.
For future ventures, I highly recommend trying Progeny or Libranet. I've never tried them, but from what I hear it's Debian, pre-packaged with a bit of software, with a slick RedHat-like installer. It's pretty much installing RedHat, but when all's said and done you have a Debian system...easy to maintain and beautifully put together. Maybe give that a try?
What Tyr-7BE suggested is probably the problem. It doesn't like your system configuration. Go to Debian's hardware compatibility list and have a look see.
You might also want to post your system configuration here, maybe someone could help.
If you have uncompatible hardware, pull it from your box and install again.
Regards,
Rod
stick
05-05-2001, 10:50 AM
ok, a little less mad this morning... took cd to work... it booted and got to the monitor choices part... so it is not the cd it is my computer... here is my computer:
amd athlon 750mhz
128M ram
30gig ultra ata66 western digital hard drive
aureal vortex sound card
CNet pro200 fast pci ethernet adapter
STB velocity 128 agp vidio card (same as riva 128)
I don't have a floppy drive at all...
(but linux and windows have run just fine on this computer without it...)
dvd rom drive (this cannot be the problem because the install cd boots off of it just fine...)
i don't know... maybe because my cable modem is hooked to my computer and is on, maybe because my hd is ultra ata 66???
and this is debian slink 2.1?????
I am hesitant to even try again... and am upset about the cash I spent on this book which is totally debian specific.
:mad: :confused: :eek: :mad:
maybe because my hd is ultra ata 66???
That's what is giving you problems.
Never having installed Debian with a ata 66, I don't know the solution. I will see what I can come up with. Maybe someone else will ring in with some information, in the mean time.
Regards,
Rod
Can you disable ata/66 in system bios?
Regards,
Rod
Tyr-7BE
05-05-2001, 01:11 PM
Hrmmm...if he disables his ata66, won't he have to install to something else? You can't write to a disabled hard drive can you?
stick
05-05-2001, 01:16 PM
I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING IN MY BIOS... MAN DO I WISH I HAD A CD BURNER... @#$@$@ I COULD GET 2.2 AND NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM... ALL THAT CAME WITH THE BOOK WAS 2.1 AND THE TWO OTHER BOOKS THEY HAD = SAME THING; 2.1
I AM FRUSTRATED... I WAS SO PREPAIRED... I GUESS THAT IS HOW IT GOES SOMETIMES, YA-KNOW?
knute
05-05-2001, 01:35 PM
The problem is that the version of Debian you are trying to install can't understand the ATA66, so it doesn't know how to communicate with it.
One thing that you could do, assuming that you have a controller card for the faster bus speed for the HDD is to plug the HDD directly into the MB. (If it already is plugged into the MB, then you don't have a controller card. :( )
The same problem happened to NT when the ata66 came out. :) Anyway, after you get linux Installed you could upgrade the kernel to the 2.4.x version and simply include the ata 66 support into it and you should be fine. :)
Another thing that you may try, and this is a long shot, is to get a regular HDD cable (the one that is currently hooked up has twice the wires and stripes (I believe) to say that it is for the faster speeds) and hook up a regular cable and see if things slow down and linux recognizes the HDD and decides to load.
That's about all I can think of at the moment. Though there may be a boot option that you could use as well. What kind of MB do you have? Or if a controller card, what kind of controller card?
Someone here may know of what boot options you could then use. :)
stick
05-05-2001, 01:49 PM
THE ATA 66 controller is built right onto the card, it is a Gateway athlon mboard (Kodaka), so i am sol :(
actually i was just thinking.... is there a way to download the 2.2 recovery stuff, boot that, and then do the install off of the 2.1 cd?
(again, i cannot do the setup over the internet, because my nic has to be set up after debian iS installed ) :rolleyes:
I don't know the details, but Debian does have a set of boot floppies for using ata66 drives. Wait a bit and I'll find the URL...
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian2.2r3/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/udma66/
[ 05 May 2001: Message edited by: Ig0r ]
I don't believe he has a floppy in his system to use the boot disk.
Tyr-7BE...when I said disable ata/66... I was assuming that it would default to ata/33 :D
stick..... email me, my address is in profile.
Regards
Rod :D
Tyr-7BE
05-05-2001, 03:42 PM
Boot floppies is an archaic term. I installed via the "floppy" method from my FAT32 drive. Stick, I'd bet you could download the 2.2v2 or 2.2v3 floppies and install from another partition. Be warned though...when they say it's minimal, it's MINIMAL. A bash prompt and apt-get is what it gives you. I recommend downloading the .deb files for whatever you need to get on the 'net (pppoe if it's ADSL...not sure about cable...maybe DHCP?), and learn how to set up your internet from the bash prompt. After that you can happily apt-get your way to nirvana :)
stick
05-06-2001, 01:18 PM
eamiled by the way...
book said something about installing from hard drive... it did not go into great detail... should i just erase my redhat linux partitions? make new partitions for /boot, /, and swap?? or do i do that in debian?
is it possible to use the stuff off of the cd after i get the 2.2 rescue installed? ie. apt-get the stuff off of the cd, ...gnome, bla bla bla.. and then (using the cd that came with my nic) install those drivers, set up my connection (road runner cable), and then get the rest???