Who's Using Konqueror to surf the web?

[blackbelt_jones]

Over the last year, I've gradually switched from using Nautilus for file management to using Konqueror, and I find that I really love it. I was wondering if there's any reason why I should break with my longstanding mozilla/firefox habit and try Konqueror as a web browser. Is there anyone who prefers to surf the web with Konqueror, and if so, why?

[EnigmaOne]

Konq seems quicker than any of the other browsers, is probably one of your best standards compliant browsers available today, and natively supports .jng image formats.

I generally use Konq for browsing; although I do have a tendency to check the rendering of weird sites out with the other browsers available to us--nice to have the choices (unlike our windoze-using cousins).

I don't site-code with any other browser, except Konq.

It's also an easy matter to move from port 80 to port 21 and do drag-n-drop ftp; which saves messing-around with gftp or some-such.

[blackbelt_jones]

Well, that's all the encouragement I need to give a try. I started out my Linux career with Red Hat 9, and then, later, with Debian Sarge, both of which defaulted on Gnome, and I got to liking the way the Gnome Desktop was organized. Now that I'm using Fluxbox, I'm starting to notice that those KDE applications are really well-thought out, highly practical, highly configurable, and just plain snazzy. One thing I i hope and expect is that if I start using Konqueror for a web browser, I'm going to notice useful ways in which Konqueror integrates with other KDE desktop applications.

Hey, an automatic spell checker! Very nice!

[EnigmaOne]

If you're going with a fully-outfitted KDE setup, take a look at filelight ( http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/ ) if you get a chance. I have a feeling that you'll like it. (Interestingly enough, the filelight author shared my surname...until I got married, that is.)

[Parcival]

Basically I give Konqueror a chance for webbrowsing everytime I install a new KDE system because I am lazy. However, I still end up installing Firefox everytime I try.

Although Konqueror is highly configurable, I still find its Options menue a little confusing plus Firefox has more options to tweak. Ad filtering is an absolute must for me, but somehow I haven't managed yet to bring it to a satisfactory level with Konqueror. Furthermore, in my latest attempt I noticed that I prefer to have my RSS feeds displayed in my browser; it annoys me that KDE opens a seperate app everytime I want to view one.

[XiaoKJ]

Basically, I just don't like the idea of a web browser and file manager together (maybe the explorer in windows freaked me or something)

However, konqueror is also quite poorly designed for web browsing because its file managing features are visible when browsing. The configs become very large for no good reason. And the UI thus becomes awkward for me.

[stumbles]

Speaking for myself, I find it no slower than Mozilla or Firefox when it comes to launching, rendering or anything else a browser is used for. Nor do I have any problems with flash sites or other types of media that require some plugin that can be attributed to konqueror.

There are some sites (can't think of any atm) where konqueror will get it wrong or no matter what browser identification I change it to will the web page be displayed or work properly.

So for the most part I use konqueror for web browsing almost exclusively.

[cybertron]

I tend to use Konqueror to browse forums a lot because KMail defaults to opening links in it and I'm always too lazy to change it. I generally have no trouble (although the Wiiloaded forums don't display right for me), but I miss some of my Firefox extensions so I'll probably never switch completely. I also have to agree that it's a little too busy up in the toolbar because of the file management stuff that's there, although I think there's a way to customize the view for file management, web browsing, etc. It may let you get rid of some of the unnecessary stuff, but I've never tried so I'm not sure.

[glasdave]

For me, Konq opens quicker than my Firefox. and between the two, I can view almost anything. the themeability, is great, too.

[asarch]

I use *A LOT* Konqueror + KGet to download the "horny" pictures... :D

EDIT.

The only big problem with Konqueror is that it cannot save the entire content of a web page, it only saves its skeleton. :mad:

[blackbelt_jones]

I sometimes use firefox with a plugin called "conkeror" that allows me to browse from the keyboard by assigning numbers for each of the links on a page, and I can choose a link by typing the number. Twice now, I have accidentally activated something similar built into Konqueror (uses letters, not numbers, but still...) I can't wait till I figure out how to do it on purpose!

Another kool feature... using the location menu, I can open easily open this page in firefox, epiphany, or opera, whichever I prefer.

People who aren't running Konqueror at the web, I don't object to you giving the reasonswhy, but I started this thread because I had a strong hunch based on my experience with KDE applications in general and with Konqueror as a file manager in particular, that if I tried it, I was going o discover some truly ingenious features... and I haven't been disappointed, though it hasn't been long. So who can show me some other kool ****?

[blackbelt_jones]

I use *A LOT* Konqueror + KGet to download the "horny" pictures... :D


I've been trying that just now, and while I'm not sure that I've mastered KGet (I've never used it before) there's an extension for Firefox that I think maybe you really ought to try.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/201/

It's called Down Them All, and once you've got it set up, it works like this:

Right click on a web page, anywhere there isn't a link

Type "o"

And all images and video files will be added to the download list. (Or any other extension you want.) When there are naming conflicts, Down Them All can automatically rename your files. It's pornoriffic!

[Pafnoutios]

Konquerer might be opening faster for some if an instance of it is being preloaded at login (which I think is default).
I've started trying Konquerer the past week to see about better KDE integration. I got sick of Firefox never remembering what program I open up PDFs in and me having to navigate through the gtk file chooser dialog (which I can't stand) to find /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kpdf, and stuff like that.
I haven't made a final decision yet.

[cybertron]

I got sick of Firefox never remembering what program I open up PDFs in and me having to navigate through the gtk file chooser dialog (which I can't stand) to find /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kpdf, and stuff like that.
I haven't made a final decision yet.
Hear, hear. The GTK file chooser is a pet peeve of mine, as is having to use it to find kpdf, particularly since it inevitably hangs for a while trying to open /usr/kde/3.5/bin because of the number of files. For me Konqueror actually opens PDF's itself (using the KPDF plugin, I think) so that's definitely a benefit.

[quip]

I keep trying to move to it every few months, but invariably, it starts

A) Choking on some flash, or

B) Taking much longer to load some pages than firefox, or

C) Displaying some webpages improperly. Maybe they're not coded properly, but if others can handle it...

...and sometimes all three. :(

I wish I could move to it, though, because I do like it's features, integration, and speed.

[blackbelt_jones]

I keep trying to move to it every few months, but invariably, it starts

A) Choking on some flash, or

B) Taking much longer to load some pages than firefox, or

C) Displaying some webpages improperly. Maybe they're not coded properly, but if others can handle it...

...and sometimes all three. :(

I wish I could move to it, though, because I do like it's features, integration, and speed.

Well, it you really want to move to it, but it gives you an occasional problem, remember that Konqueror makes it easy to open any page in another browser by clicking on "Location", so if you run into a problem bailing to Firefox, opera, or epiphany should be easy.

[quip]

Well, it you really want to move to it, but it gives you an occasional problem, remember that Konqueror makes it easy to open any page in another browser by clicking on "Location", so if you run into a problem bailing to Firefox, opera, or epiphany should be easy.

True, and good tip. I have made extensive use of it for paying my insurance bill online. :D

[crow2icedearth]

i prefer firefox guys.. i just have never liked konq web browser since i started using linux in 1998

[Davno]

I am using 3 different browser all the time, Konkeror as a (file and network browser), Firefox for googling (mostly music stuff), and news ect... And Galeon (tried also Epiphany and Dillo) for Linux related stuff with google/linux as my start page. Seem to keep every thing in order and tidy like this (Bookmark, start page and all). :)

[asarch]

I am using 3 different browser all the time, Konkeror as a (file and network browser), Firefox for googling (mostly music stuff), and news ect... And Galeon (tried also Epiphany and Dillo) for Linux related stuff with google/linux as my start page. Seem to keep every thing in order and tidy like this (Bookmark, start page and all). :)Yeah! Galeon and Epiphany *ARE* also a very good browsers.

They are for weekends when you are tired of Konqueror, Mozilla, SeaMonkey, Firefox and Opera. :D

[retsaw]

Hear, hear. The GTK file chooser is a pet peeve of mineThat really bugged me until I came across Kgtk, which is a wrapper which patches library calls for the file chooser which when used gives GTK (and non-KDE QT) apps a KDE file chooser. I also use gtk-qt-engine to give my Gtk apps a KDE theme and the "Mostly Crystal" theme for Firefox.

If you also wanted to use kget for your downloads, you can either use the flashgot extension or the script here (http://www.polinux.upv.es/mozilla/mejoras.php?idioma=en).

As to KPDF, I just installed mozplugger and it now embeds KPDF into Firefox.

I would use Konqueror instead of going to the trouble of making Firefox integrate into KDE, but I just can't stand it's UI for Web Browsing.

[XiaoKJ]

Kgtk + gtk-qt-engine?

--warning: off-topic---
retsaw, does it provide a consistent system (all GUI apps use qt)? Can I run baghira with it to make an aqua clone?
--end warning---

embed kpdf into firefox?? I'm going to install that now! Its the plugin I was searching for!

And now I remember the most annoying thing in konqueror when I use it. Its the tabs. ITs implemented in a wierd way (to me). And I'm limited to classic mode when browsing gmail.

But again, khtml has probably the best looking smiley face (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2) in linux

[cybertron]

Hmm, that's interesting. I do like the way that GTK apps look for the most part so no QT-GTK theme engines for me, but getting rid of that GTK file browser and embedding KPDF would be awesome.

Oh, and Konqueror has issues with animated GIFs for me too. They play slowly and don't loop properly. Maybe it's just my version.

[retsaw]

Kgtk + gtk-qt-engine?

--warning: off-topic---
retsaw, does it provide a consistent system (all GUI apps use qt)? Can I run baghira with it to make an aqua clone?
--end warning---No, it only make GTK apps use the same theme as KDE apps, but they are not quite the same, GTK apps cannot have transparent menus where KDE ones can and you cannot move the apps menu bar to the top of the screen MacOS style like you can for KDE apps. KGtk is a wrapper so you have to use it to launch the apps you want to have a KDE file selector, that does mean modifying their launch icons/menu entries. Using these is by no means a perfect solution, but it does make GTK apps under KDE a bit nicer.

embed kpdf into firefox?? I'm going to install that now! Its the plugin I was searching for!Again this isn't quite perfect either since you get a menu bar for KPDF inside the Firefox tab which is a bit weird. I only installed it because of this thread, so I don't know if there are any other side effects of mozplugger as I believe it does other stuff aswell.

[frimann]

In Konqueror there is no reason to have google search bar, you just type gg: before your search.
My 2cents.

[blackbelt_jones]

The keybindings to web links that I mentioned above are called access keys. You can activate them by typing the "Control" key and deactivate them by hitting the "Escape Key".

This is an awesome feature. Compared the to the "Conkeror" plugin for Firefox , the Konqueror access keys are a little more awkward, but that is more than compensated for by the ease with which they can be activated and deactivated.

[XiaoKJ]

No, it only make GTK apps use the same theme as KDE apps, but they are not quite the same, GTK apps cannot have transparent menus where KDE ones can and you cannot move the apps menu bar to the top of the screen MacOS style like you can for KDE apps. KGtk is a wrapper so you have to use it to launch the apps you want to have a KDE file selector, that does mean modifying their launch icons/menu entries. Using these is by no means a perfect solution, but it does make GTK apps under KDE a bit nicer.

Well, its okay. I believe people are more than willing to trade off the transparency for a consistent look and feel. Anyway, I don't use the menu bar. At least not in linux.
Again this isn't quite perfect either since you get a menu bar for KPDF inside the Firefox tab which is a bit weird. I only installed it because of this thread, so I don't know if there are any other side effects of mozplugger as I believe it does other stuff aswell.
This is again a trade off I'm willing to let go. If I don't embed it, then I'll have to manually open the file in KPDF. Its more of a chore.

[crow2icedearth]

i have problems with firefox as well . I am a huge redsox fan and all mlb.com pages have problems with flash under linux.

[scwinn]

I hope someone will help me resolve my problem with Konq. Its fast all right, but it doesn't support the multi-media plugins that currently are working in Firefox. How do I make these work.

PS - explain it like I only started using LINUX a few weeks ago... k? :o

[XiaoKJ]

which multimedia plugins? And in the meantime please still use firefox. There is a reason why firefox is still so much popular compared to konq.

[MkIII_Supra]

Don't like the look of Opera and Konqueror doesn't seem to render pages correctly or images won't show at random times. To many inconsistent problems with rendering. I also get an arse ton of errors (read :: time outs) that I cannot seem to get around, well I can if I don't use the TAB feature but then what's the point?!

Maybe it's my install of OpenSuSE 10.2 or who knows what but it's annoying. So I stick with Firefox. It may be sluggish and sometimes a CPU hog, but at least it renders 99.9% of the pages I request without an error.