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mmills
09-16-2006, 01:32 PM
I was running ubuntu for along time, Now I am considering running debain, I downloaded both DVD's. what are the big differences as far as installing application and user friendlyness (is that a word?)
with ubuntu is can do a xterm sudo apt-get install but it creates that user from the start as a sudo account with no root, it has been along time since I have used a root account. I almost forgot how real linux even works.....I know pathedic.
I need a briefing...... :rolleyes:
je_fro
09-16-2006, 07:09 PM
with debian you'll su to root from your regular user account whenever you need access.
since you've downloaded the dvd's already, cool...but I prefer to d/l 50 or so MB and do a netinstall...
mmills
09-16-2006, 08:46 PM
I dl'd the dvd version out of boardism................... :rolleyes:
but I will give the how to a shot, I am having video resolution issues, currently, having to use a live distro to do my research
techwise
09-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Your post seems to say that you consider Debian "real Linux" as opposed to Ubuntu and you make an example of how Ubuntu makes no root login available by default. If you want to use a root account in Ubuntu instead of using the sudo command, it is quite a simple thing to do.
$sudo su
enter your password
# passwd
set the root password
You can now login as root as well as "su" to root normaly.
I think you have misunderstood things like this and allowed them bias you to thinking that Ubuntu is not "real Linux". That is far from true. Personally, I love and use Debian, I think its the best distro out there...... besides Ubuntu. So I use Ubuntu too and know that if Ubuntu ever goes to crap, there will be Debian to fall back on.
If you are using Linux as your desktop OS, stick with Ubuntu. There is just no real compelling reason to use Debian instead at this point.
Cheers
Mike
mmills
09-16-2006, 10:07 PM
ok let me fall back on my though patern so you will understand why I am considering debain.... Im not a big fan of constant update, and after 6 months or so ubuntu comes out with something new, I like updates but not overhauls.... :D
techwise
09-16-2006, 10:30 PM
The current Ubuntu (Dapper) has a 5 year support commitment. I'd say 5 years without having to upgrade hardly qualifies as constant change. I may be wrong but I dont think Debian does that.
Mike
gamblor01
09-16-2006, 11:15 PM
I found it quite irritating that Ubuntu wouldn't even let me login to an X session with the root user. Not that I run as root, but still that was a little annoying to me. I've got several vm's running different distros and so far I like FC5 the best. I prefer to run Slackware over any other distro, but they haven't released any udpates in the longest time, and it's nice that Fedora gets so many updates so that it actually works with the newest hardware, etc.
Yeah yeah, I can put swaret on and apt and what not. I think when I put this on a physical server I'm going to give FC5 a shot though. I've never run a physical server with Fedora...only vm's.
I'd like to know how your Debian experience goes though. I've downloaded the ISO's but I've failed to bring up a vm running it yet. Let me know if you switch and how you like it.
happybunny
09-17-2006, 12:10 AM
just something i wrote up for work that i just posted here...
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147015