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chad6701
05-21-2001, 11:59 AM
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE INTER NET USING LINUX. I HAVE NET ZERO CURRENTLY. I HAVE A BOX WITH WIN 95 FOR THE WIFE AND I AM TRYING TO LINUX. I REMEMBER SEEING SOME WHERE YOU CAN USE YOUR EXSISTING NET ZERO ACCOUNT BY GOING INTO WINDOWS AND FINING THE TRUE USER NAME AND ENTERING THAT IN LINUX. i DONT REMEBER THE SPECIFICS SO ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

cloverm
05-21-2001, 12:06 PM
I see that this is your first post here. I can't help you with your question, but please turn off your Caps Lock, because it is considered yelling...

YaRness
05-21-2001, 12:07 PM
according to your user agreement, you can't do that legally.

if you search on google or another search engine, you will no doubt turn up very specific information about doing such things though.

IMO, it's worth it to shell out 20 bucks a month for more reliable service from a non-free ISP (like earthlink).

FoBoT
05-21-2001, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by YaRness:
<STRONG>
IMO, it's worth it to shell out 20 bucks a month for more reliable service from a non-free ISP (like earthlink).</STRONG>

IMHO, there are smaller ISP's that are just as good, charging &lt;$20 (like ~$8-$9/month) :)

EyesWideOpen
05-21-2001, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>IMHO, there are smaller ISP's that are just as good, charging &lt;$20 (like ~$8-$9/month) :)</STRONG>

Actually, you can use Net Zero (http://www.netzero.com) as a pay ISP (as well as the free one) for $9.95 a month. Don't know how reliable it is though.

I use Surfree (http://www.surfree.com) (which despite it's name is not free!) for $14.95 a month and haven't had any problems. ;)

Disclaimer: I'm talking about internet access from Windows here as I can't connect to the internet in Linux from home on account of my winmodem. :rolleyes:

[ 21 May 2001: Message edited by: EyesWideOpen ]

YaRness
05-21-2001, 01:27 PM
if you pay for netzero, you still hafta use their bloaty abusive (distributed processing anyone? if not yet, then prolly soon. not to mention advertisements) software.

i picked earthlink because all the other (local and otherwise) isps for cheaper had some kinda limited use (X hours per month) policy, either explicitly or hidden in some user agreement (even when they said up front it was unlimited). and when i get on to surf, i don't wanna hafta think about how many hours i put in this month. and you can just use plain old dial-up with earhtlink, you don't hafta use their frou-frou software.

cga
05-21-2001, 04:12 PM
I am really partial to local, small ISPs. I have always gotten better service from them.

compunuts
05-21-2001, 04:46 PM
As far as I know, you currently can't use Netzero with Linux yet (officially). The problem being with their Java based process control program that will call its own dialer and stuff. Netzero was talking about making Linux version but I hadn't heard anything more since I discontinue using it when I got my ADSL.

Nonetheless, you can try. You will need the dial in phone number, user name, password, authentication protocol ( PAP or CHAP )and DNS name servers (Primary and secondary).

Most importantly, can you turn that CAPS LOCK key off please? Didn't you come across anybody who would tell the nettique about typing with caps lock is yelling at someone?? Well.. now you know... :D

bdl
05-21-2001, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by cga:
<STRONG>I am really partial to local, small ISPs. I have always gotten better service from them.</STRONG>

This is absolutely true. I switched from GTE (now Verizon, different name, same crappy service) to a local ISP and it's been a world of difference. Aside from the personal service, I've found my ISP owners are pro-linux and pro-unix in general. You might expect this from a smaller locally operated ISP, they'll probably have a few BSD or Linux boxes running the show.
As far as other ISP's are concerned, I've heard good things about Mindspring and Earthlink. Luck in your quest.

shawnmos
05-21-2001, 08:07 PM
Yeah, I use Earthlink and it works great! I recommend it. :)

knowledgepeacewi
05-27-2001, 12:42 AM
Well, I asked this question once. MountainMan had a website that allowed me access to a lot of information. I tried it just to see what needed to be done and I got something called a DUN which reconfigures your username and password to what is actually sent to the server. I had a couple of hangups. But I got it running for a little bit. Then netzero informed me that they had detected the attempt and that my account would be terminated because I wasn't using their banner and being bombarded by all that crap. Incidently Juno and NetZero were both using the same Dial-Up location.

gio
05-27-2001, 03:22 AM
;) The following is strictly for educational purposes. I in no way advocate using the method i will describe, and in no way am responsible if your actions. By continuing to read this you agree to absolve me from any responsibility regarding your actions.

Okay for starters, netzero uses a simple encryption system that has been known for quite some time. I recommend you save time and use a very simple method to get the username and the password. The encrypted version of your netzero username will be as follows:
0:4.0.4:username@netzero.net
you can have any password, but why not make it easy on yourself and just choose something simple? i suggest choosing the password ' abcd ' this will translate to the encrypted version '0aaaa1' and vice versa. so all you really would need to do is go to netzero.com, sign up for a new username insert all the bs, choose your password as abcd.let's say i chose the username 'ismelllikeamonkey' this is the information i would need to make a connection from linux (i suggest you use wvdial ;) ):

username: 0:4.0.4:ismelllikeamonkey@netzero.net
password:
0aaaa1

all you need is the phone number, and the above info and you should be set on your educational endeavour. IF you need further help, post questions here.