gtk-gnutella question

[o0gnubee0o]

ok...
as you can see from my sn.... im quite new to linux. im running debian sarge at the moment(stable). and i seem to be having a problem with gnutella. it was working fine... now apparently after doing a little research..... my version is evidently ancient. so.... im trying to figure out how to upgrade it so it will actually open up again. ive tried using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade being that i downloaded it throught apt-get. but no dice. still wont open up. still says its ancient. i mean i could change the config file so it will force the ancient version to open... but i prefer to upgrade. so does anyone have any idea how to upgrade gnutella so it will work again?

and remember.... i might need a little help doing it cause of me still being new.

thanks in advance

[dkeav]

if your using deb as a desktop/workstation and nothing mission critical you might want to think about updating to a newer branch, i wont go through explaining what the branch names mean as most people take the stable/unstable thing as literal

you could also use pinned packages from a newer repo

[o0gnubee0o]

im not sure i follow. can you be a little more specific? that might be a little over my head. and as far as debian.... im still learning.... but i will eventually get to more "mission critical" as i learn. but im not sure what that has to do with gnutella. i just dont know how to update it as an individual(though i thought it would upgrade through apt-get).

[dkeav]

running the stable branch means your packages are basically static, its not going to update, stable is a freeze in the package tree, other than bugfixes and security releases your packages wont change much until the next release of the stable branch

the testing branch will have newer software packages, and is suggested for daily use, the unstable branch has the newest packages usually running the most bleeding edge of software revisions (newest version of a package), a lot of users run the unstable branch for daily use and have no problems, but it changes very rapidly and occasional package problems can occur that may take a day or two to be fixed, or could possibly break your system

if you want a newer package you should upgrade to a different branch, this can be done using apt, basically you edit your sources.list file which holds a list of repositories for packages, you would just change stable to testing, or unstable within that file, apt-get update then perform an apt-get dist-upgrade to jump up in branches

if its just one package you want to update, it can be done by "pinning" a package for a different repository, pinning is not the easiest subject for new users, if you are interested the apt man pages and docs can explain it in full detail, and save me copying and pasting it to here ;)

[o0gnubee0o]

d00d thanks so much. i never knew that about stable. but... i do now. thanks man. gnutella works fine now :D

[o0gnubee0o]

well... i seem to have another problem.... i changed to testing and tried gnutella(this is on the other machine) and it worked fine. but now... when i rebooted... x didnt want to come up. so i tried startx. and it says:

/etc/X11/X is not executable

giving up
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.

what happened?

what do i need to do to fix it?

i do recall while it was unpackaging everything while changing over to testing that it asked me wich x i wanted. xfree86 or x.org(or something) and i originally had left it on the default because thats what it suggested.... but it kept asking me over and over every few minutes. so i chose x86. and i think its not supported on this particular laptop. i tried xf86config.... and i get command not found. i dont understand what happened.

what do i do? :confused:

[dkeav]

apt-get install xserver-xorg

[o0gnubee0o]

well apparenty its already installed.... so how can i switch to it then?

[dkeav]

i would imagine startx is calling xorg, you need to create an xorg.conf file with Xorg -configure, which will create a /root/xorg.conf.new you can test and tweak that file with X -config /root/xorg.conf.new when its working properly, mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

you can always check the errors reported via xorg with grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

[o0gnubee0o]

i tried and Xorg -configure. and it said missing output drivers. configuration failed. and just for kicks i tried the X -config and it responded with...
/etc/X11/X is not executable.

i really dont understand this. i have no idea what to do now....

[dkeav]

grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log would help

if all else fails an

apt-get remove x-window-system && apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install x-window-system xserver-xorg

[voidinit]

I'm not very familiar with debian, but is /etc/X11/X a directory where x.org config files are stored? If so, the error message is saying that the dir is not executable. Just for a sanity check, try

bash#> find /etc/X11 -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}' ';'

Just a thought.

[o0gnubee0o]

um... still confused. said there was a missing argument to -exec. but i dunno if i typed it right. but anyways. im still lossed. where do i go from here?

[voidinit]

The '{}' and ';' are surrounded by single quotes.

Just try this.

chmod 755 /etc/X11/X

[o0gnubee0o]

im afraid that doesnt help me either.... now both machines are down. i deciced to switch to unstable on the pc.... and when i rebooted.. i gues the xorg config got all messed up or changed or something. but ive tried xorgcofg. and xorgconfig. and nothting works. the closest i get it to work is when i try to generate the xorg file and set all the settings.... and i go to startx.... i get a message saying no core pointer found. and originally... i thought it was my wireless mouse.... so i switched back to my olf ps2. but that did the same thing. i dont understand what to do. does anyone? :confused:

[dkeav]

try Xorg -configure
then follow the command it gives you afterwards to check the new config it generated, i would suspect your issue is related to the new udev moving your mouse to /dev/input/mice instead of /dev/mouse

[o0gnubee0o]

ok... well.... i fixed the desktop.... i figured out what the problem was. it wasnt specified as the proper /dev/. but the laptop is still down. :(

dont exactly know why. i tried the same thing with it.... xorgconfig.... but it says its not executable. and when i try xorgcfg..... it acts like its coming up.... but all i get is a blank screen and i can move the trackpoint(ibm laptop mouse) around. and the cursor is ofcourse an ' X '. so if anyone has any clue as to why xorgconfig wont run... please lend a hand.


thanks
gnubee

[o0gnubee0o]

p.s. maybe not in the correct directory? just a guess probably not though.

[DarkDexter]

i had the SAME EXACT problem when I moved my laptop from Debian stable to testing. As root try 'modprobe psmouse' and 'modprobe usbmouse' that way it loads the kernel modules for mice (after the upgrade it removes it from starting up automaticlly). Then, use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and anwser the questions. Try 'startx' and see what happens. Also try using 'dmesg', it prints out error messages and recent kernel events and stuff. Hope that helps, having gone through this same probelm I know what a royal pain in the butt it is! Good Luck! :)

[Megatron X]

ok...
as you can see from my sn.... im quite new to linux. im running debian sarge at the moment(stable). and i seem to be having a problem with gnutella. it was working fine... now apparently after doing a little research..... my version is evidently ancient. so.... im trying to figure out how to upgrade it so it will actually open up again. ive tried using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade being that i downloaded it throught apt-get. but no dice. still wont open up. still says its ancient. i mean i could change the config file so it will force the ancient version to open... but i prefer to upgrade. so does anyone have any idea how to upgrade gnutella so it will work again?

and remember.... i might need a little help doing it cause of me still being new.

thanks in advance

if you want to upgrade gtk-gnutella go to gtk-gnutella's website... (http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net)there you can download the latest version of gnutella...yes they have the .deb package of both gtk 1 & 2 of gnutella...

[blackbelt_jones]

I didn't read this whole thread, so this may have already been covered.

Your problem is that old versions of gtk-gnutella have been banished from the network, but you're using Sarge, which now the stable version of Debian. When Debian finally gets around to calling a version "stable', they mean it. That means that very little updating takes place, and that all has to do with security fixes. That's because, obviously, new bugs can only enter into the system by way of updating. Over the next one to three years, Sarge will only become more and more outdated... but it will always be stable.

As I see it, your choices are:

1. Get a different gnutella client, e.g. Limewire
2. Try a different version of Debian (Kanotix makes a great hard drive install for Debian Sid) or a different distro.
3. Get a .deb package (this is the option I know the least about)
4. Download Gtk-Gnutella and compile from source.

I recently compiled gtk-gnutella. Compiling is generally a lot simpler than you may think. (Or should I say "a lot simpler than I thought.") I'll go into detail if you askme, but right now i need to have dinner.