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J-Tek
11-12-2001, 03:46 AM
What's up,
I had RH7.0 and really wanted to mount NTFS partitions. Everyone was telling me that RH7.2-Kernel 2.4 can mount NTFS drives. I upgraded and edited /etc/fstab
/dev/hda2 /mnt/win ntfs umask=000 0 0
I typed
mount /mnt/win
it says this version cant mount.
What the hell!? Am I stupid/confused/misled/doing it all wrong?
thanx, :mad:
Gaccm
11-12-2001, 03:54 AM
did you build in support for ntfs when you compiled you kernel (or designed it, however red hat does it)
also, you know that currently linux can only safely read from a ntfs drive. writing is marked dangerous in the kernel.
thedexman
11-12-2001, 04:02 AM
Wow, dude. Nice thread title. Really makes people want to help you.
Atleast RH7.1 didn't have ntfs automatically compiled to module. So most likely you need to enable the module and recompile kernel. You can check the whether you have to module with "modinfo -n ntfs". Also the file /usr/src/.config have the info on all the kernel option, so you can check whether it is compiled from there also.
[ 12 November 2001: Message edited by: Hena ]
Keyser Soze
11-12-2001, 06:59 AM
reads and writes on mine....
Black_Xmas
11-12-2001, 02:32 PM
Have to have NTFS support built into the kernel (or moduled!! no recompile :). I don't think many distro's ship with NTFS support already builtin.
Read and write? I thought only reading was supported currently :)
thedexman
11-12-2001, 04:01 PM
Write support for NTFS is marked EXPERIMENTAL
bdg1983
11-12-2001, 05:01 PM
Why bother? J-Tek won't believe us now since we're ALL liars.
Trounce
11-12-2001, 05:32 PM
Or maybe we should try reverse psychology?
J-Tek...don't build a custom kernel. Whatever u do, don't turn on the support for experimental features. Then, don't check file systems section, and don't enable NTFS support....
I haven't, and i haven't been able to mount NTFS either!!!!
Lies, Damn Lies and Meteorological Forecasts!!!
:cool:
thedexman
11-12-2001, 05:33 PM
Well this thread is almost as fun to read as the "Is it just me or are there still no competent developers for Linux" thread.
Trounce
11-12-2001, 05:41 PM
And by the way, write support for NTFS is marked as DANGEROUS....
thedexman
11-12-2001, 05:44 PM
I suppose you're right, it depends on the version, though.
On a side note, we should be aware that MS doesn't publish the specs for NTFS, so any changes they make have the potential to break Linux NTFS drivers. This is why write support will probably remain broken. In the long-term, it is probably easiest and safest to use another filesystem (such as FAT32) for sharing data between Windows and Linux on the same computer.
[ 12 November 2001: Message edited by: thedexman ]
Strike
11-12-2001, 06:18 PM
Okay, it seems to me like J-Tek doesn't even want to check back, he just wanted to vent ... I'm tempted to move this to rants.
fateswarm
11-13-2001, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by thedexman:
<STRONG> it is probably easiest and safest to use another filesystem (such as FAT32) for sharing data between Windows and Linux on the same computer.
</STRONG>
Correct but, if you use a read only option on Linux for NTFS and a read only option on windows for ext2(the app called 'Linux explorer'), then file exchange is complete.
:)
J-Tek
11-13-2001, 12:39 AM
Ok everyone, I was just kidding when I called all of you liars. I didnt know you "Linies" were so sensitive. Yea Im gonna have to recompile my Kernel. Im just pissed because I moved to RH7.2 and it didnt fix any of my problems. My soundcrd still doesnt work and It doesn't mount ntfs(Yet).
thanx for the input, everyone.
fateswarm
11-13-2001, 01:16 AM
If you need the most in automatism, get Mandrake 8.1.
Keyser Soze
11-13-2001, 04:19 AM
I only use the NTFS write access with NT4, since I think I had some problems with it in 2k. Haven't had any failures with NT4 though, copies and writes just fine. This is not a production system though, wouldn't do anything dangerous on a work box, just home boxes.
evilcartman
11-13-2001, 11:34 AM
I dont know which liar told you that :D but i think only MAndrake has built-in support for NTFS reading unless you compile your kernel by hand :p
Ch2i5
11-13-2001, 02:35 PM
I'm a newb, but I'll agree with what Cart_Man said, cause I've only had experience with Linux being able to read my windows harddrives from SuSE and Mandrake
J-Tek
11-13-2001, 03:43 PM
I give in. Im just going to mount FAT instead of NTFS. I dont feel like re-compiling my kernel just to listen to my mp3's. how well.
Thanx anyway,
sixfeetsix
11-13-2001, 04:22 PM
1.Defrag your ntfs drive
2.Install PartitionMagic
3.Resize your ntfs to smaller
4.Create a new primary partition in fat32 with the freed space
5.Name it mp3, data, files, or something
6.Copy your music on that partition
7.Mount that freshly created partition
That's it
Strike
11-13-2001, 06:27 PM
You probably don't have FAT support either (unless you made it yourself, and I'm not checking the thread to see if you have), so you might as well just recompile a kernel (or a kernel module, which doesn't require a reboot) and read them off the NTFS partition.