Haha, you'll get a kick out of this. My computer has a mind of it's own!

[nerrollus]

Ever since I installed Linux on my PC it won't stay shut off!

I've tried using the shutdown, halt, and reboot (turn it off on post). I'll come back 20+ mins later and my computer is back on sitting at the login prompt.

I've got the API and power manage ment junk turned off. This is the craziest things I've ever seen..

Anyone else ever run into this problem?

[scanez]

Bad voodoo :)

Edit: Sorry, I can't help :)

[ 04 February 2002: Message edited by: scanez ]

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by scanez:
<STRONG>Bad voodoo :)

Edit: Sorry, I can't help :)

[ 04 February 2002: Message edited by: scanez ]</STRONG>

That's what I was thinking...

Hrm, Miss. Cleo?

[2thumbs]

wake-on-lan/modem?

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by 2thumbs:
<STRONG>wake-on-lan/modem?</STRONG>

Nope.. I've got all that stuff turned off because of some of the problems it used to cause with Win98.

Bizaro

[sarah31]

So you can actually turn it off for a short time though, before it turns itsself back on?

[ 04 February 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by sarah31:
<STRONG>So you can actually turn it off for a short time though, before it turns itsself back on?

[ 04 February 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]</STRONG>


Yes, power is off and no lights are on. Seems like it's hardware related, but this problem popped up the same day I installed linux.. ;)

[sarah31]

Wires are tight? No shorts? Is it a BIOS issue? a false command somewhere? Poltergiest? Elves? Gremlins! I will ask a few people about this and see what I come up with. I let you know.

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by sarah31:
<STRONG>Wires are tight? No shorts? Is it a BIOS issue? a false command somewhere? Poltergiest? Elves? Gremlins! I will ask a few people about this and see what I come up with. I let you know.</STRONG>

I've checked all my LED's and they're all tight and haven't been moved around.

I had a priest bless my computer yesterday so I don't think it's a Poltergiest. Possibly Elves, so I'll have to be sure and get my elf traps out tonight when I get home. I seriously doubt it's Gremlins because I was shining a bright light in there last night checking the LED' and as we all know, bright lights kill Gremlins.

Another possiblity could be gnomes, but I don't think that's it either. I setup a camera taping the ones in my front yard and they never moved..

Perhaps I should put my video camera infront of my computer and see what happens..

[demian]

I remember someone posting with the same problem about a month back or so. Only in that case windows seemed to be to blame.

I'll try do dig up the thread but I don't really know what to search for (and besides that we all know how hard the forum search feature sucks...)

[George Kilroy]

I read that book, called Nobody here but - .

[greendragon]

heh..why don't you just push the off button for like 8 secs..works for me when trusty windows hangs at the shutdown screen...or whenever it decides to do it. Anybody got any window realted slams/problems email me hehe I lvoe to laugh at windows every chance i get hehe

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by greendragon:
<STRONG>heh..why don't you just push the off button for like 8 secs..works for me when trusty windows hangs at the shutdown screen...or whenever it decides to do it. Anybody got any window realted slams/problems email me hehe I lvoe to laugh at windows every chance i get hehe</STRONG>

Err.. My computer IS shutting down and the power is going off. The problem is it keeps turning it's self back on after it sits for a for awhile.

[demian]

Here's the other thread I was talking about: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=005453

I don't know if someone offered a solution. I'm too lazy to read it :p

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by demian:
<STRONG>Here's the other thread I was talking about: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=005453

I don't know if someone offered a solution. I'm too lazy to read it :p</STRONG>


Nothing that hasn't already be suggested.. Thanks for looking though. ;)

[Strogian]

It could be a power issue. I remember hearing somewhere that ATX power supplies always supply power to the motherboard, and all the switch does is opens (or closes?) a switch for a moment and then the mobo (I guess) turns everything on. If you have access to a uninterruptable power supply, I'd try it with that and see if it fixes it.

[greendragon]

shut it down, unplug it, pack it in the box and hide it under the stairs...teach it a lesson.

[nerrollus]

Originally posted by Strogian:
<STRONG>It could be a power issue. I remember hearing somewhere that ATX power supplies always supply power to the motherboard, and all the switch does is opens (or closes?) a switch for a moment and then the mobo (I guess) turns everything on. If you have access to a uninterruptable power supply, I'd try it with that and see if it fixes it.</STRONG>


Ya, ATX power supplies always keep some power going to the MOBO. The ATX switch isn't really a "switch." It's just a button that plugs into the mobo and tells it to start firing everything up.

There's got to be some kind goofy issue with my mobo/bios and linux. I'm gonna try digging around and see if maybe there are some known issues.

This is really goofy..

[PimpHolic]

Originally posted by demian:
<STRONG>I remember someone posting with the same problem about a month back or so. Only in that case windows seemed to be to blame.

I'll try do dig up the thread but I don't really know what to search for (and besides that we all know how hard the forum search feature sucks...)</STRONG>

the person that posted that was .......ME!!

the way i got around this (without having to boot into another OS) was after i shut down my computer, i ripped out the Power Cable so no power was gonna get into the box unless i plugged it back in :)
was it annoying? extremely..but it did the trick
eventually i got rid of win2k

[ 04 February 2002: Message edited by: PimpHolic ]

[nerrollus]

I never had this problem with any of the Windows platforms.. This is just something that popped up with Linux.

Eventually I'm going to be using this PC as a kinda proxy/router so it's going to be staying on all the time anyways.

[Syngin]

Classic case of motherboard gremlins if I've ever seen one. :D

A can of compressed air should do the trick. :D

[nerrollus]

hehe, can of compressed air can almost fix anything in a computer. ;p

[psyklops]

Pull the plug.

[cage47]

Originally posted by Syngin:
<STRONG>Classic case of motherboard gremlins if I've ever seen one. :D

A can of compressed air should do the trick. :D</STRONG>

Sure it isn't a gNOME? :D

Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

[alkalinelito]

Change the ATX Power supply. Try to test you computer with another one, or just get a new one . I use to have similar problems, and that fix it all. Yep.
But you say it works ok on windows.... i dunno , I'd still test it with noather power supply ( if you can get one ).

:confused: :confused: :confused:
Ha, i think i didn't really help
oh well, i tried.

[ntt.]

Are you sure it's not younger siblings trying to drive you insane?

[nerrollus]

Hehe, Yeah. No one home but me and my wife.

I'm last one to bed and first one up so I know she's not doing it to screw with me. ;p

[mdwatts]

I remember reading something about that recently though I couldn't think of where. I had a look through my default kernel .config and I believe watchdog settings have something to do with it.

From the Watchdog docs in the kernel source tree.

All six interfaces provide /dev/watchdog, which when open must be written to within a timeout or the machine will reboot. Each write delays the reboot
time another timeout. In the case of the software watchdog the ability to reboot will depend on the state of the machines and interrupts. The hardware boards physically pull the machine down off their own onboard timers and will reboot from almost anything.


#
# Watchdog Cards
#
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
CONFIG_INTEL_RNG=m
CONFIG_NVRAM=m
CONFIG_RTC=m
CONFIG_DTLK=m
CONFIG_R3964=m
CONFIG_APPLICOM=m
CONFIG_SONYPI=m