why does everyone say corel is POS?

[stick]

I think it is not bad at all... been using it for 3 days now... have mandrake 8.0 too... I like them both equally...

I just have no idea on earth why people are saying that corel is POS?????

-it runs well
-it is easy to update
-it doesn't come with a lot of extra crap
-it has not crashed on me in the last 3 days...
-it has really good documentation

WHAT????!!!!! is it something I am not seeing? Just because people don't like Corel? The people at Corel are disrespecting linux??? ...it is just really uncool to like corel???? I honestly don't get it... and i feel like it is because i showed up late for the game and am missing some inside joke thing or something...

[Pierre Lambion]

I think it is weak on the security. I heard (but don't take it as a fact) that it would default on using the root account for daily use.

Pierre

[jbstew32]

it DOESNT create user accounts during the install. The root account is used by default. Newbies, would not know to creat user accounts for everyday use. very dangerous.

[stick]

no, I only logged in as root once (to change the password)... I just use su

sorry for ranting... i was just doing search on corel to get some good info, (because if a newbie asks a question that has been answered he is libel to get "this was just @#%$ answered yesterday!), and all i see again and again as corel is pos, corel is pos, pos corel, ... almost as bad as corel.. @$%$%#@#!!!! it would take me all day to weed through those to ever find any good info. if there are no people here using corel, and everyone hates it - is there a bbs out there for people using corel?

I will go hang out with those people. I am beginning to think you all are POMPUS ASSES! HONESTLY.

[cage47]

You could try the alt.os.linux.corel news group (Did I spell that right?) But why? Corel IS a pos. I used it for three weeks and never got my Good ole SB16 isa to work and it only comes w/netscape nav. Not communicator. For a Newbie the User stuff is a MUST. And I crashed the xserver so many times trying to get the video settings right. The virtual screen was cool but a pain after a while. The only thing I miss from it was the graphical LILO frontend. If you've got Mandrake you're on the right step (And before you jump on me 11000 I have nothing against Slack and personally also like Debian but for newbies Drake is a good starting point) :D
With Drake you can learn the ins and outs little by little until you are comfortable enough to move to anotehr distro if you choose. But Corel isn't quite as user friendly as they advertise. Not to mention It'll never go any further than it has since Corel is spinning off it's Linux Division :rolleyes:

[Antho]

Perhaps a little off topic, but what the hell does POS stand for? I have a guess ...

[jbstew32]

Piece Of ****

[XxMaCaBrExX]

Originally posted by jbstew32:
<STRONG>Piece Of ****</STRONG>

I second that. :o

[xulfralos]

Installed Corel once, some time last year:
the disk partitioning kept screwing up and was SLOOOOWWWWW.
I logged in as root upon first boot with NO password.

I immediately wiped the drive, installed a different distro and gave away Corel to one of my Windows friends.

Definitely not security conscious... But, hey the install was GUI!!!

LOL @ stick

Corel is also uncool because M$ bought into it...

:p

[nathaniel]

I second the motion on corel being a POS. we installed the "professional edition" that my boss wanted on "preferring this over redhat."/qoute. I laughed and him and said I will try, needless to say it was so slow windows 98se booted faster on it than anything else. the this was full scsi and an old p1 233mmx.64mb ram. very sad. I went and grabed a disk call RH7 network boot and poped it in and rebooted. installed Redhat nad had X up no problems. Secured up the box and then showed to my boss saying, I know you hate RH but look at this. . . he excepted it RH into his BSD world that day. :)

[jcrowe]

I started out with corel linux over a year ago. For the beginner who has never used anything but M$ Corel is good. I was able to get it installed, and could even use it. If I would have started with Debain or Slack it never would have went anywhere for me. Corel is a linux distro that has it's own high points. Security is not one of them, but who cares. The person who is going to be installing Corel is not a seasoned Linux Veteran. Who cares if their default installation is not the most secure? If something bad happens, fsck it :D. Corel has a nice user interface, and ussually is easy to install. We should be using it as a hook to get M$ users to try out linux.

jcrowe

[stick]

my point is this... just because Corel is lame in your eyes... and not good enough for the linux gurus on LNO, doesn't mean you have to bring it up again and again... just for the hell of it... it will never have a chance... (not to mention you all sould stand behind anyone who will pour money into trying to put out a distro... especially based on your beloved debian...) because any poor sap like me who makes the mistake of doing a search on the word corel...
1. will wait 20 minutes for the search to end
2. will have a screen full of "corel blows, corel sucks, corel this and corel that... and it is almost impossible to find anything worth while... just a bunch of corel flames... even when i did a search on corel in the title... it wasn't that fun... it just made me a little angry...

...angry enough to post 100 topics of debian sucks or slackware sucks so that if anyone does a search on slackware, all they will get is my 100 "slackware sucks" posts... because at this point i think that would only be fair -- does that make sense?

if you hate corel - fine, you are awesome and i suck... whatever. Leave it alone... don't try to be a big man by saying you are slackware king and corel is so beneath your expertise... give me a fsking choice you know?

sorry for ranting, it just upsets me is all... i am new to linux, Very not new to programming or anything else... decided to try linux to give me a break from the .net hell i have been in for 2 weeks... i get to a point where i cannot drag myself off of the computer... so I am trying to redirect myself... it is getting me frustrated although i like it... just hate trying to get all of my info from microsofts web page... oh and by the way,... i know i will get flamed agian for that too... but that is all i know...

ms visual c++ , ms visual basic, ms visual J++.... but i am giving linux a real chance and i find it really neat... but am not really sure about you guys... I look at computer programmers and legit users as family... --and honestly, you could be using the DJGPP to write programs and swear by it and i would NEVER tell you that you were an idiot and that DJGPP is a lame pos or whatever... i just wouldn't... you know?

[johnmann]

Corel was the first distro I tried, didn't recognize my sound card or ata-100 and if I remember right it did not give an option where to install Lilo, it really fustrated me,I almost said to hell with Linux but said to hell with Corel instead, Drake&SuSE are much better for newbies,was for me anyway

[sans-hubris]

Damnit, I'm the only one that liked Corel?! It was my first distro, and I wasn't really disappointed in it. I didn't think it was that bad. Ok, so maybe the reason I'm biased towards it is because it was my first distro, but it was also the distro I learned Linux on. I really wasn't all that disappointed in it.

[Antho]

Actually, a friend of mine had Corel setup on his box, other than the annoying lilo setup, I found nothing wrong with it.(nothing GREAT either)

[Tyr-7BE]

Stick...have you read anything everyone else has posted? HUGE security concerns. HUGE!! It makes itself out as a newbie distribution, and then gives the newbie full rw access to /lib, /bin, and /sbin among other things (everything else)! It's not a matter of opinion here...it's a matter of security and of how many people puke in disgust with the default settings.

[vvx]

Corel is a POS because I had issues trying to install their office suite on both a debian box and a mandrake box. I think they sabotaged their package to only work on their own distro, atleast without a lot of work. I got past the first hurdle on both machines (it claimed a fontserver wasn't running when it was in fact) using info off their news server which btw they don't have posted in their support section (and this was some time ago .. you'd dhink by now they'd realize it don't work on 90% of the distributions) and then ran into other problems and gave it up, I emailed some of the folks in the news groups and it didn't look like anyone else got past the errors either, but I guess someone must..

[bdg1983]

Try what you like and if your happy with it, then that is all that matters.

Seen others here having problems with i.e. SuSE and they comment that it's a POS. They work for some and don't for others. You be the judge and don't let others influence your decision. Great to get opinions from others, but you will never know unless you try yourself.

[keating305]

Usually, I try to stay out of these witch hunts, but I'm a little pissed at this one. This sites stated intention is to help "newbies", not to tell them that their choice of a distribution is a useless piece of ****. I've been running CorelLinux 1.2 for about 6 months. I'm now a confirmed Linux user, and I will soon have nothing but Linux on my box. Security concerns? I DON'T CARE. my wife and I are the only users, and my modem is off when I'm not using it. Sound problem? Mine works fine, so does my printer, my Ricoh CD-R, my modem, ETC,ETC. NO PROBLEMS!! I'm dual booting, NO PROBLEM. I'm updating, NO PROBLEM. If I srew up my system, I can completely re-install in 38 min. (timed) NO PROBLEM! I access my e-mail from my ISP account with NO PROBLEM! THIS IS A PIECE OF ****?!?!?! Sorry, you're wrong, this is a good, reliable operating system, and I for one, am really sorry that it probably won't survive. Sure, it has a lot of little problems that irritate me, butfor MY purposes, it's an excellent OS.
I'm going to be replacing it with Libranet, ONLY BECAUSE I'm concerned about future updating, if Corel hadn't jammed their corporate head up their ***, I'd stick with CorelLinux and probably use it happily for years.
I'm not saying that being critical of distros is wrong, but be critical in the context of the user. If a distro gets someone to try Linux and find that it is a superior OS, then why be so critical. If a distribution is a piece of ****, I think the person using it will figure that out fairly quickly.
I admit, I got lucky. I have had no problems installing and using CorelLinux. I suppose if I had, my attitude would be different. I did set up Mandrake 6.1 and didn't like it at all, so I went back to Corel, but I'm not saying Mandrake is a piece of ****, I just didn't like it (to Gallic, nes pas?). So what have we learned? NOTHING, but my *** is no longer raw and the guys at work won't have to deal with a pissed off Q.C. manager, so all kinds of good things are happening! SICK WITH COREL-IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY,**** THOSE GUYS!!!! :D

[StanLin]

Corel 1.0 was my first distro. Lilo was terrible and very soon I messed up the whole system. Yes, the install had trouble detecting the mouse , too. If samba had worked right out of the box, I might have stucked with Corel. I don't remember ever getting into CLI or thought it could be possible. This doesn't really help anyone who wants to learn Linux.

And I had to get help to low level the hard disk to get it back in working condition.

IMHO, if they had thrown off Linux before getting "the investor" 's help, that would have been more commendable and they would get less pos remarks.

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[RedOctober]

Hey man here is my take on the whole Corel and Linux thing.

I tried Corel 1.1 Deluxe for about a month. Visually it was my favorite. At the time I was new to linux( I had previously tried RH 6.2, Caldera 2.4 and Mandrake 7) and Corel installed easilly, and because of the MSwindows look and feel I was not intimidated. Corel was touted as a Distro for newbies. It was also aimed at desktop users not server uses. Hence the security 'flaws'(I think). I did not have a concern about security, I was not running anything to hide. Corel was the only Distro that came with the ADVANCE OLSA sound modules, hence my laptop sound worked great. I had tried Red Hat 6.2, Caldera, Mandrake before but they had no sound support. Also Corel was the only distro that could print to my Konica laserjet printer. Beit black and white.
However, Corel was very slow, slow to start Netscape, I would click on the Netscape icon and wait 'literally' 5-15 mins for it to load. I tell you no lie, I remember posting here about it and having users complaning about the same thing. Corel would periodically freeze and if I let it alone it would unfreeze after about 1/2 hr then when I moved the mouse it would freeze up again. I loved Corel and I also hated it.
NO DISTRO COMES WITHOUT ITS FAULTS. I could call Red Hat 6.2 aa POS for not making my sound worked, having to unmount the darn floppy and CD everytime,for freezing periodically and oh yea, I went to log on one morning and got a criptic error locking me out, I called Red Hat and they recommended that I reinstall the OS. I reinstalled and 1 week later it happened again.....so I went to Caldera....so sound support, could not get realplayer to work, could not install Netscape 6 etc. Then I tried Mandrake, upon advice from members in this forum, it worked tht best, though I got no sound. With all the software it comes with there was not reason to install anything :-)
I am currently using Storm and I love it. I am planning on going back to Red Hat however simply because they now have a easy software feature too, much like MS Windows Update feature. I am also planning on setting up a server.
MY RIFT WITH LINUX and its community. Sometimes choice is good, but have you noticed that everyone of us here have tried at least 3 distros. If Corel is POS all the distros we have thrown out is what????
Hate Microsoft all you want, but I have been running W2K pro and Win2K Advance Server (thanks to my job who gave me a copy) for about 9 mths straight and no crashes. I am not giving up my Linux box but Plug and Play is a necessity. I like the idea of buying anything in CompUSA taking it home and just plug it in.

A BAD WORKMAN BLAMES HIS TOOLS ;)