laptop celeron to p4?

[tuxnewb]

Question: In my current laptop configuration I have an intel celeron proc. I was curious if any hardware gurus out there know anything about upgrading to a P4. I am not worried about battery life, or anything like that, I just want to upgrade the laptop harddrive and i have the service manual. It says that this can be done but i wanted to make sure before i go spend the money :) thanks

Tuxnewb

[XiaoKJ]

laptops are laptops, and you just have not much chance upgrading it

[timothykaine]

Did you want to upgrade the CPU or the hard drive? You mention the CPU, then say you only want to upgrade the hard drive....

Well, both are upgradable. You just need to find out what your hardware will support.

Contact the manufacturer of your laptop with the model number and ask them what speeds/capacities of hard drive it will take, and what versions/speeds of the P4 processor it will handle.

[blu.gecko]

When I upgraded my P3 hp latop I had to pull the entire keyboard off my notebook, the harddrive will be an easy task, the CPU, well goodluck mi amigo....
When you say the service manual you mean the documentation that comes with the pc on how to upgrade the ram and hd right? Or did you download a PDF or something like that?

[tuxnewb]

should have read my post before posting :). I Downloaded the PDF service manual that is used by certified HP technicians i believe. Regardless it tells you how to change the CPU. I was just curious if i could put a normal p4 proc in it. That would be a nice boost for the PC. I am going to be installing gentoo on it when i get home because i just bought a new laptop. This is going to be my frankenstien. But i dont want to buy the P4 proc if i cant use it. I usually only run AMD in all my PC's but "i was younge and wanted a laptop". didnt care about the proc in it at that time. Now its AMD or bust for me :). I was curious about the CPU because i am going to be taking the laptop apart to paint the case and i figure while the case is off and the MOBO is out i could upgrade the CPU if i felt like it. None the less thanks in advance.

Tuxnewb

PS I meant CPU when i said harddrive sorry this is all about the PROC.

[soulestream]

short answer is no.

the service manual probaly shows how to replace the celeron processor with the same celeron processor.



soule

[DimGR]

well , what model laptop is it?

I know you can in some of the new ones...

[tuxnewb]

Originally posted by DimGR
well , what model laptop is it?

I know you can in some of the new ones...

It is an HP Pavilion 4230. In the manual it states that a P4 can be installed in the socket. the cpu should be a 478 socket right? Other wise the CPU would be a special CPU :). None the less i think i found something that will help me a little but if you guys know that is awesome.

[blu.gecko]

Not to be a pain in you @#$ but you never said anything about any pdf from the original post

"laptop celeron to p4?

Question: In my current laptop configuration I have an intel celeron proc. I was curious if any hardware gurus out there know anything about upgrading to a P4. I am not worried about battery life, or anything like that, I just want to upgrade the laptop harddrive and i have the service manual. It says that this can be done but i wanted to make sure before i go spend the money thanks "

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all you really said was that you had the service manual.

blu.gecko

[XiaoKJ]

can you see that his service manual can be a PDF by default?

[tuxnewb]

Originally posted by blu.gecko
Not to be a pain in you @#$ but you never said anything about any pdf from the original post

"laptop celeron to p4?

Question: In my current laptop configuration I have an intel celeron proc. I was curious if any hardware gurus out there know anything about upgrading to a P4. I am not worried about battery life, or anything like that, I just want to upgrade the laptop harddrive and i have the service manual. It says that this can be done but i wanted to make sure before i go spend the money thanks "

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all you really said was that you had the service manual.

blu.gecko


The service manual is a PDF. After some research i found out that the celeron is in fact a socket 478 CPU SO, in conclusion i am going to buy the damn CPU and upgrade it. If it doesnt work ill sell it on eBay :). Thanks to all that posted

[-=Gerrit=-]

mmm replacing a HDD would be no problem. Just look for an 2,5 " drive.

Upgrading a CPU is another story. Most of the time the software would not accept the change (windows for example does not tollerate a processor change and just says, "I cannot boot!"

In theory a Celeron is a faulty P4. A p4 has more Cache memory. When a P4 has to many faulty sectors in the Cache memory Intel disables the memory and calls it Celeron. The core of the processor is the same.

Also the connection of the processor is the same. Afaik most motherboards support CELERON AND P4 procs.

But changing a Processor on a laptop is a bit difficult because it is worked away at a nasty spot. Most of the laptops use special processors so you will have to look for a special P4, a boxed P4 for a desktop would be no option because you have to take cooling in account, a big cooler as in a desktop is rather impossible...

[blu.gecko]

"The service manual is a PDF. " sorry dude, whe I got my new laptop, which is 4 months old the service maual which tells me how to replace internal parts came in black and white text, about 40 pages or more. Good Luck on the CPU change.

blu.gecko

[soulestream]

Don't P4 run alot hotter than celerons?


soule

[DSwain]

From what I know P4's run much cooler than Celerons (at least compared to my 1.1ghz Celeron as to a 1.3ghz P4) so I'm not so sure that would be the case. I don't know about mobile CPU's, though. May very well be another story. Good luck with that, at any rate.

[tuxnewb]

well I am going to be taking pictures of me taking the Laptop apart, so i will do a HOW I DID IT and post the pics for everyone. I "have" (read want to) take the thing apart to paint the case all white so i figure with the laptop already dismantled i might as well attempt to change the CPU. It will probly run a bit warm but that is not tooooo big of a problem cause i plan on this being a laptop that doesnt run for long periods of time. AKA war driving and airsnort type stuff. None the less i will be back in the states by the end of the week and then its ON for modding this lappy case so till then bye.

Tuxnewb

[miahallen]

I would be able to provide some assistance, but you didn't offer enough info. Look in your service manual (or run CPU-Z) and find out what chipset the motherboard runs. Also find out the current FSB rate and the RAM speed. Also let us know the current CPU model.

There are a few things you need to take into consideration. First, the chipset determines the FSB & RAM's speed...this information incrucial for wise spending for your P$, for example....the newest socket 478 P4's run 800MHz FSB and PC3200 RAM (in dual channel config). You may be able to run one of these, but you will definitly be limiting it's power, because your chipset will probably only handle 100-133MHz FSB and single channel PC2100 RAM.

Also, it's good to note the thermal charactersitics of the Celeron in there, you definitly won't want to have a newer Prescott CPU, go with a Northwood.

Hope this helps,
miahallen

[rdeschene2]

Before buying the P4, I would definitely have a look at the current CPU to make sure it isn't (e.g.) soldered to the motherboard and if the heat sink can be detached and used on the new CPU.

I don't know if those practices are actually used by manufacturers, but I can see how it would be somewhat cheaper and more compact. So it's possible.