Balleta and his meds

[willk]

...it is the manic phase of his illness...
....everything is funny to him now...
....soon, He will be either extremly hostile or uterly dispairing....
....don't feed his illness by reacting to provocation...

[Bully_Crist]

I think the guy's kinda cute...for a troll... :D

btw, Balletta, try Progeny Debian 1.0... you can't go wrong with Debian...unless you're an idiot :rolleyes:

[jpbtennisman]

Not an idiot, just clueless about what Linux is, what it does special in the multimedia field, and how the hell do I use it (which I can probably figure out with some work). Am I like the Jerri of LNO? (Jerri, from Survivor, the one everybody couldn't stand..heh)

I sure will...although I have heard that it is actually *harder* than most versions of Linux, so what previously kept me back was that i wanted something easier to start off with. But with more and more people telling me it is easier I am going to give it a shot.

But I will be sure to try it out, where do I get it from and is it free?

[ 13 April 2001: Message edited by: J.P. Balletta ]

[ 13 April 2001: Message edited by: J.P. Balletta ]

[demian]

Originally posted by Bully_Crist:
<STRONG> [...] try Progeny Debian [...]</STRONG>

Originally posted by J.P. Balletta:
<STRONG> [...] where do I get it from [...]</STRONG>

Ummm, how bout http://www.progeny.com ?

[mychl]

OK JP, heres the scoop....

You ready? Good.

You need to be able to do some searching for yourself, everyone else here has, and knows when someone is being lazy and asking for help without trying to figure it out for themselves first. YOu obviously are a newbie, so I have a suggestion.

You said you liked SuSE, so go buy it. It will let you get up and running without too much difficulty. Once you get it, learn EVERYTHING you can about it. The CLI, X, networking it, desktops, etc...

Most importantly how to use the CLI (command Line Interface). Read up... read the book that you will get with your distro, read the NHF's here, SEARCH for your own sources of documentation.

If you have trouble with something, and have actually tried to figure it out yourself, then post a question here. If your question is intelligent, full of detail and to the point, I promise you will get responses from many.

Eventually you will be able to answer other peoples questions, and you should, cause you were once them.

And when you get to that point, get yourself another distro, Debian for example. It doesn't do as much for you as SuSE or DRake do, but by then you won't need it too.

Thats how things work around here.


Just a little friendly advice.

Good Luck, and stay with Linux, it'll teach you how to think.
:)

[jpbtennisman]

Thanks, I'll play with this evaluation I have here. I will just hope that they come out with better 1394 and multimedia support, and I may just take the plunge into SuSE. The reason why I ask people is if they say, "Oh no, that network card you have does not work with SuSE, blah blah blah" then why should I buy SuSE? Maybe something else is out there that is better.

Before I run out and buy SuSE, I will go get Progeny Debian 1.0 as shown above. I don't know how good it's going to be but if it's free why not try it?

Thanks...and if I ever have a problem that a NHF couldn't help me with (I mounted one drive in Red Hat, but couldn't mount another, etc) I'll be sure to ask or look around some more at other sites!

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by J.P. Balletta:
<STRONG>they come out with better 1394 and multimedia support</STRONG>

they?

they?

who is they??

who will come out with better 1394 support???

somebody has to do that, not "they"!

[jpbtennisman]

Well somebody has to be at the head of this thing...somebody had to have made that new Linux kernel everyone is talking about. Do these drivers just pop out of the sky or something?

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman:
<STRONG>Do these drivers just pop out of the sky or something?</STRONG>
that was my point, they don't just pop out of the sky, many hardware companies just don't write linux drivers at all
there isn't a "LINUX" corporation to write hardware drivers like MS, so many/most hardware drivers get written by volunteers, ie linux gurus, i believe

(i could be wrong on this, someone please correct (that is someone that would know :rolleyes: ) me if needed )

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman:
<STRONG>new Linux kernel everyone is talking about. </STRONG>
the kernel isn't the same thing as hardware drivers
the people that write a new kernel, aren't necessarily the people writing hardware drivers for the latest/greatest techno gadgets

[jpbtennisman]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman:
<STRONG>..FireWire..</STRONG>

Originally posted by FoBoT-9223:
<STRONG>..the latest/greatest techno gadgets..</STRONG>

FoBot, do you know if anything is in the works for 1394 support? Many of the computer-savvy use it these days, I don't imagine it'd be very long until Linux would embrace this technology from Apple. What would really put a stinger in M$ is if they come out with 100% support for USB 2.0 and Bluetooth, 2 technologies that Windows XP will not support.

[FoBoT]

somebody will do it, sooner or later


check this
www.linuxhardware.net (http://www.linuxhardware.net)

has a link on the front page for the Linux USB project

do a search from the front for "firewire"


on post from comp.os.linux.powerpc says "lucky guys running G3's G4's Firewire is supported under the latest development kernel 2.3.40"
so i guess "they" are already working on it! :D

looks like a good site to answer some of your questions/concerns about "newer hardware"

have a nice day! :)

[jpbtennisman]

Thanks for the link! But still not much on 1394. If Linux doesn't get this soon, then anyone in the industry is just going to wave bye-bye to the penguin

[bdg1983]

You need to be able to do some searching for yourself, everyone else here has, and knows when someone is being lazy and asking for help without trying to figure it out for themselves first. YOu obviously are a newbie, so I have a suggestion.

You said you liked SuSE, so go buy it. It will let you get up and running without too much difficulty. Once you get it, learn EVERYTHING you can about it. The CLI, X, networking it, desktops, etc...

Most importantly how to use the CLI (command Line Interface). Read up... read the book that you will get with your distro, read the NHF's here, SEARCH for your own sources of documentation.

If you have trouble with something, and have actually tried to figure it out yourself, then post a question here. If your question is intelligent, full of detail and to the point, I promise you will get responses from many.

Eventually you will be able to answer other peoples questions, and you should, cause you were once them.

And when you get to that point, get yourself another distro, Debian for example. It doesn't do as much for you as SuSE or DRake do, but by then you won't need it too.

Thats how things work around here.



mychl... Perfect. Very well put. Just wish anyone starting with Linux would be required to sign a contract to that effect. Should be on the LNO home page.

[TaeShadow]

I don't have any 1394 devices, but the latest kernel (2.4.3 and possibly earlier versions) has support for them. You need to enable the experimental options in order to view it. As I said, I don't have any of those devices, so I don't know how well it will work. Keep in mind that the kernel only supports the interface; you will still need to obtain device-specific drivers.