Bluehoney
12-07-2001, 04:08 AM
windows XP has it, and it's great.
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Strike
12-07-2001, 04:14 AM
Windows XP needs the Enlightenment window manager ... Linux has it and it's great.
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
otheos
12-07-2001, 08:41 AM
What's clear type technology?
BTW: let's keep it a flame free thread we all know what we like :)
BTW: let's keep it a flame free thread we all know what we like :)
Derango
12-07-2001, 11:28 AM
What ClearType does is to display the fonts on the screen so that they are easier on the eyes when using a LCD panel (such as a notebook PC). It works really well, actualy. Too bad I decided to wipe XP from my laptop and put 2k on it. Now I lost ClearType :(
vhg119
12-07-2001, 12:42 PM
agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.
Strike
12-07-2001, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by vhg119:
<STRONG>agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Um, AA fonts have been around for a while now. Your application just has to use them.
<STRONG>agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Um, AA fonts have been around for a while now. Your application just has to use them.
Siskmarek
12-07-2001, 06:01 PM
Yeah.. I was about to say. It's really easy to turn 'em on in KDE, too. I leave it off because it makes KDE take longer to load, and while fonts on my desktop look nicer, stuff in a terminal looks absolutely horrid!
But I really don't see anything special about this feature. Hadn't even heard of it before... but I guess now that I know, I'd have to classify it as one of those Pointless Things(tm) Microsoft likes to put into their products.
~ Siskie
But I really don't see anything special about this feature. Hadn't even heard of it before... but I guess now that I know, I'd have to classify it as one of those Pointless Things(tm) Microsoft likes to put into their products.
~ Siskie
Bluehoney
12-07-2001, 11:04 PM
It's hardly pointless. It's actually a very good point. You're just blinded by your hostility.
mangeli
12-07-2001, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Bluehoney:
<STRONG>It's hardly pointless. It's actually a very good point. You're just blinded by your hostility.</STRONG>
Actually, Linux has excellent font support. You just have to set it up. You can have all the truetype and other fonts (even adobe fonts I believe) if you set up xfstt and some other stuff. As far as being "clear fonts" thats just more bloat ware. If you cannot read the font on your computer screen, then you either need a new monitor or a better prescription on your glasses.
Linux has come a long way in such a little time. Yet once it has implimented the Mac Type styles it will be perfect. None of this MS Bull****, we need to aspire to make it more like OSx. :rolleyes:
<STRONG>It's hardly pointless. It's actually a very good point. You're just blinded by your hostility.</STRONG>
Actually, Linux has excellent font support. You just have to set it up. You can have all the truetype and other fonts (even adobe fonts I believe) if you set up xfstt and some other stuff. As far as being "clear fonts" thats just more bloat ware. If you cannot read the font on your computer screen, then you either need a new monitor or a better prescription on your glasses.
Linux has come a long way in such a little time. Yet once it has implimented the Mac Type styles it will be perfect. None of this MS Bull****, we need to aspire to make it more like OSx. :rolleyes:
Derango
12-08-2001, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by mangeli:
<STRONG>
Actually, Linux has excellent font support. You just have to set it up. You can have all the truetype and other fonts (even adobe fonts I believe) if you set up xfstt and some other stuff. As far as being "clear fonts" thats just more bloat ware. If you cannot read the font on your computer screen, then you either need a new monitor or a better prescription on your glasses.
Linux has come a long way in such a little time. Yet once it has implimented the Mac Type styles it will be perfect. None of this MS Bull****, we need to aspire to make it more like OSx. :rolleyes:</STRONG>
Have you ever looked at a SVGA+ laptop LCD? It runs at 1400x1050. As a result, sometimes text can look a little weird, as well as being hard on the eyes. I agree that ClearType is bloat when used on a desktop with a standard CRT moniter (It actualy makes thing really blurry in this configuration), It is most useful when used on a LCD. I found that there was a major imporovement in screen legibility with it turned on.
[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]
<STRONG>
Actually, Linux has excellent font support. You just have to set it up. You can have all the truetype and other fonts (even adobe fonts I believe) if you set up xfstt and some other stuff. As far as being "clear fonts" thats just more bloat ware. If you cannot read the font on your computer screen, then you either need a new monitor or a better prescription on your glasses.
Linux has come a long way in such a little time. Yet once it has implimented the Mac Type styles it will be perfect. None of this MS Bull****, we need to aspire to make it more like OSx. :rolleyes:</STRONG>
Have you ever looked at a SVGA+ laptop LCD? It runs at 1400x1050. As a result, sometimes text can look a little weird, as well as being hard on the eyes. I agree that ClearType is bloat when used on a desktop with a standard CRT moniter (It actualy makes thing really blurry in this configuration), It is most useful when used on a LCD. I found that there was a major imporovement in screen legibility with it turned on.
[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]
Strike
12-08-2001, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Derango:
<STRONG>
Have you ever looked at a SVGA+ laptop LCD? It runs at 1400x1050. As a result, sometimes text can look a little weird, as well as being hard on the eyes. I agree that ClearType is bloat when used on a desktop with a standard CRT moniter (It actualy makes thing really blurry in this configuration), It is most useful when used on a LCD. I found that there was a major imporovement in screen legibility with it turned on.
[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]</STRONG>
If the resolution is too high to read the fonts either:
a) reduce the resolution, or
b) make the fonts bigger
<STRONG>
Have you ever looked at a SVGA+ laptop LCD? It runs at 1400x1050. As a result, sometimes text can look a little weird, as well as being hard on the eyes. I agree that ClearType is bloat when used on a desktop with a standard CRT moniter (It actualy makes thing really blurry in this configuration), It is most useful when used on a LCD. I found that there was a major imporovement in screen legibility with it turned on.
[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Derango ]</STRONG>
If the resolution is too high to read the fonts either:
a) reduce the resolution, or
b) make the fonts bigger
vhg119
12-08-2001, 09:12 PM
the desktop fonts thats set by the metal theme in gnome looks nice and readable without hurting my eyes.
jon787
12-08-2001, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by vhg119:
<STRONG>agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
<STRONG>agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
david
12-08-2001, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by jon787:
<STRONG>Originally posted by vhg119:
agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
I'm not sure how to describe this... AA fonts are kinda blurry, it makes things a bit easier to read, afaik.
<STRONG>Originally posted by vhg119:
agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
I'm not sure how to describe this... AA fonts are kinda blurry, it makes things a bit easier to read, afaik.
sans-hubris
12-08-2001, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by jon787:
<STRONG>Originally posted by vhg119:
agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
AA fonts gets rid of jaggies. No one else thought this belongs in the Rants section?
Anyway, XFree86 v4.x.x+KDE2.2.x has some of the best support for AA (i.e. "Clear" type) fonts I've seen.
<STRONG>Originally posted by vhg119:
agreed.. we need better fonts and better ways to display those fonts. At least antialiased fonts are coming soon.</STRONG>
Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are Antialiased fonts anyway?
AA fonts gets rid of jaggies. No one else thought this belongs in the Rants section?
Anyway, XFree86 v4.x.x+KDE2.2.x has some of the best support for AA (i.e. "Clear" type) fonts I've seen.
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