EscapeCharacter
03-25-2001, 08:47 PM
does anybody know of any more lectures that are on the net to download?
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demian
03-25-2001, 09:31 PM
I'm not sure what you mean with lectures but there are other writings (http://tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/) by Eric Raymond avilable online. The printed book The Cathedral and the Bazaar contains the essays
A brief history of hackerdom
The Cathedral and the Bazaar
Homesteading the noosphere
The magic cauldron
The revenge of the hackers
all of which (and a lot more) are linked on the above page. They are almost without exception worth reading for anybody interested in OSS.
A brief history of hackerdom
The Cathedral and the Bazaar
Homesteading the noosphere
The magic cauldron
The revenge of the hackers
all of which (and a lot more) are linked on the above page. They are almost without exception worth reading for anybody interested in OSS.
Tyr-7BE
03-25-2001, 10:23 PM
Is that good reading? I'm currently reading "The Hacker Ethic" by Pekka Himanen. It's good, but the guy IS a sociologist with a PhD in philosophy, so there are a few too many bible references for me. The forward by torvalds is excellent, and Himanen raises some interesting points (for example, how the hacker work ethic runs counter to protestantism). I'm just wondering if The Cathedral and the Bazaar is worth picking up. If it's gonna portray hackers as the script kiddie who holds the world for ransom, I don't want anything to do with it.
EscapeCharacter
03-25-2001, 11:08 PM
well i was looking more for just mp3s or real audio(im not a big reader :)) just something to listen to, to inspire me while im coding or just using linux in general.
DMR
03-26-2001, 12:31 AM
EscapeCharacter,
As far as I know, no one has taken the time to narrate The Cathederal and the Bazaar and make it available as an audio file. But- I have read it online, and if you want some good insights into the differences/merits/demerits of the open-source (vs.commercial) headframe, I'd really suggest giving it your full attention, as opposed to having someone feed it to you as a "background distraction".
Tyr-7BE,
Yeah, The Hacker Ethic does have that bias,but its still a good read. The Cathederal and the Bazaar isn't quite the same. Its not a history of the hacker culture, but more a discourse on the commercial vs. open source approaches I described above. BTW- ESR never makes the mistake of confusing hackers with crackers or script kiddies. He's been at this since the days when "hacker" was used as a term of respect and recognition of Wizardly skills.
Also, check out The Jargon File on his site; its a good glossary of all thing computing, including the history of terms and a lot of background into true hackish culture.
As far as I know, no one has taken the time to narrate The Cathederal and the Bazaar and make it available as an audio file. But- I have read it online, and if you want some good insights into the differences/merits/demerits of the open-source (vs.commercial) headframe, I'd really suggest giving it your full attention, as opposed to having someone feed it to you as a "background distraction".
Tyr-7BE,
Yeah, The Hacker Ethic does have that bias,but its still a good read. The Cathederal and the Bazaar isn't quite the same. Its not a history of the hacker culture, but more a discourse on the commercial vs. open source approaches I described above. BTW- ESR never makes the mistake of confusing hackers with crackers or script kiddies. He's been at this since the days when "hacker" was used as a term of respect and recognition of Wizardly skills.
Also, check out The Jargon File on his site; its a good glossary of all thing computing, including the history of terms and a lot of background into true hackish culture.
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