Installing Debian using a LNE100TX ethernet card

[jamez1988]

Ok, I'm installing Debian 3.0 from a cdrom.
I'm on a simple LAN, two computer connected to the net though a router.
I have gotten to the installation screen for installing device drivers.
I assume I need to install the driver for my network card, but I don't see an entry for it in the list of devices.
My network card is a 'LinkSys EtherFast® 10/100 LAN Card'
I want to install the debian pacakges though our internet connection (eg, download & install as it goes.)

I have tried to install the packages via the cdrom, but i suspect the cd is damaged as i got a bunch of read error when i tried to install the packages from the cd.

can anyone help me?

[cabu1966]

The LNE100TX uses the tulip driver.

[jamez1988]

I selected the tulip driver, but when I pressed enter, this is the error I got.
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/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: init module: Device or resource busy.
Hint: insmod error can be caused by incorrect mocule parameters, including invaled IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed

Installation failed.

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:confused:
Any ideas what went wrong? I acessed the internet with Knoppix before I started the installation just to make sure that the card was working, so it's not a hardware problem.

edit: unplugging the system from the network dosent help either.

[cabu1966]

Originally posted by jamez1988
I selected the tulip driver, but when I pressed enter, this is the error I got.
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/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: init module: Device or resource busy.
Hint: insmod error can be caused by incorrect mocule parameters, including invaled IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.20-idepc/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed

Installation failed.

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I notice from the modules version 2.2.20, that you are using the old kernel. Try installing from disk 5 (I think that is the right one) to get a 2.4 kernel, I don't know if that card will work with a 2.2 kernel. If you don't have disk 5, then there is a parameter you can pass to the installer to get it to use the 2.4 kernel.

[jamez1988]

Disk 5? Dang. I only have disk 1. And I downloaded it about 6 months ago. I think it's like 3.0 RC1 or something like that.
I note that they now have RC 2 out.
Should I just get a bit torrent stream and download all the disks & try the install again? (I only got disk 1 the last time i downloaded)

and what is this parameter you speak so highly of?


edit: ok, if i uderstand this correctly, I have to download the 5th disk and boot off of it. At the starting screen I have to type

bf24

and then fallow the instructions, switching to disk one whn it tells me. Then I'll be able to select the tulip driver. Is this correct, or am I going to screw something up if I do it?

edit of the edit: forget disk 5! I can get kernal 2.6 on the net-install disk. only 115mb!
hmm. kernal 2.4 and a 600 mb download, or kernal 2.6 and a 115 mb download... hard choice. ;-)

[cabu1966]

Originally posted by jamez1988

and what is this parameter you speak so highly of?

From Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86 (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.en.html#contents)

CD #1 of official Debian CD-ROM sets for Intel x86 will present a boot: prompt on most hardware. Press F3 to see the list of kernel options available from which to boot. Just type your chosen flavor name (idepci, vanilla, compact, bf24) at the boot: prompt followed by return.

[cabu1966]

Originally posted by jamez1988

edit: ok, if i uderstand this correctly, I have to download the 5th disk and boot off of it. At the starting screen I have to type

bf24

and then fallow the instructions, switching to disk one whn it tells me. Then I'll be able to select the tulip driver. Is this correct, or am I going to screw something up if I do it?

I've always had all the disks, but I've done it both ways from disk 1 as in my last post, and from disk 5.

[jamez1988]

ok, i rebooted, and typed bf24 in, and it seems to have worked.
I got a message saying that any drivers not on the list that would normaly be there have already been installed.
the tulip entry is no longer there, so i assume this means it was detected and everything is fine.

Thanks for your help, cabu!

[The Whizzard]

Originally posted by jamez1988

My network card is a 'LinkSys EtherFast® 10/100 LAN Card'
Which version of the card do you have? Versions 3 and below use the ne2k-pci driver. Versions 4 and up use the tulip driver.

Note: If you bought the NIC within the last 2 or 3 years, it will most likely ve a version 4 or higher card.

Just putting my $ .02 in just in case the tulip driver doesn't work for you and you wonder why.


<edit>Just saw your last post. It looks like it is working.</edit>

[jamez1988]

It looked like it was work, but then it decided not to.
This thing is pretty old, so since tulip won't work, i'm guessing it's probaly verion three or lower. ;-)\

edit: ...but then it decided that it can't even install that module.
any more ideas?

[cabu1966]

If you have the bandwidth, which I assume you do since you were going with a net install, I would give installing testing (sarge) rather than stable (woody) a go. You will have more up-to-date versions of software that way also. The only thing I run stable on is our email server at work.

This may also help you to identify your version:

Linksys (http://www.linksys.com/download/driver.asp?dlid=2&osid=6)

[sharth]

BAH! it deleted my text... oh well. on the first screen where you hit enter at the command prompt, instead of simply hitting enter and then popping into the welcome screen, type in bf24, and then hit enter, which will do the same as what the 5th cd would do.

Or, you could download the new debian-installer for sarge (which should be released in a few months) and use that instead of the older woody installer. The new one does more auto-detection (you don't even need to know that the driver is called tulip). It might be in your interest to try it out. If you want to download the cd, then give us a yell, and we'll get the link.

[jamez1988]

Ok, I installed from the CD, because I just wanted to get this thing running. Now I'm trying to get network access. :P
Also, I swapped network cards with another computer. This thing now has a "Hawking PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network adapter with WOL" (PN102TXA) For some reason, this gets detected, while the linksys thing did not. Thats good. What's bad: the new network card , though detected, still can't connect to our LAN.

I log in a root and type in
pppoeconf
(Thats the right command to configure acess though a LAN, right?)
and it says that it has deteced 1 ethernet device.
I hit ok.
It says it's looking for a pppoe access concentrator.
Then it says it can't find it.

what's going wrong here?
(And chould a mod move this topic if it's no longer apporiate for this part of the forum?)

edit: for some reason, all the lights on the back of the ethernet card just went out. is this just a loose connection someplace?

[Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379]

I'm not sure what's up with your linksys card, but I've never had problems with any of mine using the 2.4 kernel. Maybe you could try that? At the Debian boot: prompt, try typing bf24 and then hitting <Enter>. It will load with the 2.4.18 kernel, and it should install that with the base system install.

I've used revisions 2 through 4 of the LNE100TX card. I'm not refuting what The Whizzard stated, but I've never had any trouble using the tulip module for any of those cards.

[perfectly_dark]

I log in a root and type in
pppoeconf
(Thats the right command to configure acess though a LAN, right?)

pppoe is for DSL isn't it? (I may be wrong, I'm no mdwatts :P) I use 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 up' if you want a static IP...for DHCP....well, I'm not sure, I think you just omit the IP address but I don't know for sure

[jamez1988]

Alex: I already installed using that command, as stated earlied in this thread.
I swaped out the linksys card because my windoze computer started getting picky about it's new network adapter.

so, debain now has a "Hawking PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network Adapter" that won't configure right.

perfectly_dark: I have a DSL connection, but all computers connect though the router. DHCP is automaticly taken care of by the router. (I think. I set it up to do it anyway.)
I'll try that command you sugested and get back to you with the results.


edit: I still can't connect to the net.
I'm downloading the sarge net-install disk now.

(http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/sarge-i386-netinst.iso) <-- thats it, right?
thanks for your help. I may need more of it if I can't get this to work. (Or I might just reformat everything and install BeOS. :-P) lol.