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x
07-13-2004, 08:19 AM
I hate dependencies. I have only a modem-connection, can't install much via Internet.
I install/upgrade using various CD's - but not even Linux magazines does anything to adress this (unnecessary!) problem.

To the point:
I have heard so much about APT, I thought I'd give it a try.
I installed Libranet 1.8.

1. I want to install packages from Debian CD's: "This disk is not apt-enabled" !
Checking things, reading about APT, tells me that APT is extremely sensitive as to the directory structure. It only accepts a few locations like "stable" "main" "non-us" (don't remember exactly).
I had to copy the contents on the CD's to the harddisk, I finally managed to get the directory-structure APT needs.
Ok, I finally can use APT, but isn't that just stupid, in a Micro$oftish way?

2. Now that I had the Debian CD's I thought I should try an upgrade.
Upgrade starts... and stops. Error reading one package.
Now I have a system partially upgraded - how well do you think that worked?
Well, I managed to fix it, deleted the damaged package and somehow could continue upgrading.
2 times more it stopped, same reason. Same trixing & fixing. The files that couldn't be installed were not essential in any way, system works fine without them.
Isn't this just stupid, in a Micro$oftish way?

3. After the upgrade had completed, I found that my disk was full!
Why, you might ask?
Because APT had installed lots and lots of stuff I never wanted!
I had a small system, Gnome & IceWM only.
After the upgrade I had KDE, WM, enlightenment, evolution etc etc etc...
Installing a lot of things I never asked for - isn't that just stupid, in a Micro$oftish way?

Thinking about it, I have to correct myself: not even Micro$oft would come up with something as weird as APT!

Had to let off some steam ... feel a lot better now, thank you .... but will never try APT or Debian-variants again!

hard candy
07-13-2004, 10:41 AM
"cr-apt" is good if you put it around the roses, makes them bloom longer and makes the stems grow faster.

Icarus
07-13-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by hard candy
"cr-apt" is good if you put it around the roses, makes them bloom longer and makes the stems grow faster. But it attracts flies and the neighbors think you may have a plumbing problem...
I prefer toxic chemicals that lead to mutation :D
Because APT had installed lots and lots of stuff I never wanted!
I had a small system, Gnome & IceWM only. "I only installed Gnome, why don't I have any space left?"
Have you ever looked at the base install for Gnome? It is huge, probably about 600MB or more by now. I think KDE is worse.
If you're using IceWM, only install gnome-base as that will cut down on all the 'other' Gnome apps that apt 'thinks' you need.

But I'm hooked on GDM personally :D

x
07-13-2004, 11:00 AM
The thing was not about Gnome, it was everything else apt installed for me - KDE, enlightenment, evolution etc..