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OldToker
06-27-2004, 03:17 PM
Hi all I don't know if this is the right place to start such a thread..

But I was thinking how come it is that all Linux Apps. LAG so far behind their Win counterparts? Because when I write different software venders, They all say that there is no Linux port of their software because there is no demand for it Prime example is the Official Yahoo client for Linux They only just recently enabled the ability to send files to windows clients from the LInux Client.. As of yet there is no WEBCAM or VOICE in the *nix client I am thinking that if all these *nix forums get together and decide upon "Bombarding" a software vender to either A. Produce a Linux Client. Or if they have one that it needs to be upto par with the Win Client.. They would eventually give in to the daily E-mail Barage comming in untill a version was made that works in *nix Natively... Not using Wine.. or any other Baloney program.. Programs I would personally like to see:

a REALPLAYER that works.. and Is an easy install without having to JUMP through hoops..

A Yahoo Client that is up to par with the Win Client.

Any comments or thoughts from the rest of the crowd here?

madcompnerd
06-27-2004, 08:24 PM
It takes time to port software. The original software was written with only windows in mind often, so it will take them time to basically rewrite the interfaces (including network interfaces).
They're just starting into it. Plus there really isn't much demand for advanced linux IM clients (meaning video chat etc). You might try Gnome Meeting btw.
Also, download Gaim. It's superior to yahoo and AIM native clients. Then convince your friends to use jabber.

happybunny
06-27-2004, 08:48 PM
as with everything, noone is building apps for linux so noone is moving to linux so noone is buildnig apps for linux so noone is moving to linux....etc....etc...etc.

It is that way with everything. GM is not mass producing hydrogen cars cause noone is buying them, so GM isn't making them, so noone is buying them....and it goes on and on.

When you have a huge company like MS screwing people out of so much money for their OS and apps, they can spend that money to develope apps for their OS's, which of course don't run on this version, you have to buy the new version.

OldToker
06-27-2004, 11:24 PM
Well it seems that my point was missed here both of you make valid points.. but I hear so much "Chatter" about how Linux needs to become more than what it is and that so many people have visions of grander about linux taking a MUCH larger piece of the pie on the desktop front.. Everyone knows Linux is supirior to Windows, Just there are no easy to use aps that offer the same functionality as their Windows counter parts.

What I am refering to is companies like Musicmatch Jukebox that did at one time produce a Linux client, So I ask whats so hard about keeping it going??? the *Nix Client for Yahoo runs native in *nix but the only problem is it's not as good as it's windows counterpart and nor do I see lots of forward motion on yahoo's part to make it "UP TO PAR" because the linux user community isn't sticking together and demanding equality " Quit discriminating against us"

And as far as the statement that there isn't much demand for advanced IM"s on the *nix platform? There is it's just a small community ( LINUX ) as a whole once there are more aps that compair to their Windows counterparts there will be more and more people willing to switch or at least investigate Linux I mean the Price tag of 80 Bux for a Comercial Mandrake package is a long way shy of the 100"s of $ that M$ Charges... So it stands to reason that IF WE ( THE LINUX COMMUNITY ) unite and DEMAND even if the tactics are a little unorthodox IE: Mailing for example Yahoo DAY IN AND DAY OUT for months on end till they produce the goods.. then so be it.. I am for one frankly tired of being discriminated against.. because I am resisting being assimilated by " Bill Gatus of Borg"

XiaoKJ
06-28-2004, 03:37 AM
Well, you have big plans, why not make it happen?

You can always take the initiative, but you must have a reason and target -- like other movements aim to topple different parts of M$

maybe you could help market linux for free?