how do i set up apt-get? [Archive]

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 01:06 PM

Damn libranet :( it's when you quit using mandrake you realize how much the other distros sucks. although i told it to *not* format my /home, it did so. i lost EVERYTHING. besides, my lilo&grub which worked fine using mandrake don't using libranet. first of all there is no grub, while it's way better than mandrake. lilo: it automatically boots my linux, doesn't gives me the choice to boot my windows.
my internet: i set up my internet correctly (i'm sure of that for 100%) using xadmin, but it isn't working.
so my questions:
what's the lilo config file (so i can edit it manually)?
where the config file for my internet (so i can edit it manually)?
specs:
win2k, libranet & failsafe should be in my lilo menu
i'm using an ethernet card which is connected to the server.

conclusion: i don't have internet, nor a working OS since i can only access libranet.

although i'm incredibly pissed off i lost all my data, i'm lucky that i did a backup to my windows partition a while ago. the stuff which wasn't backuped were programs, all my icewm&bb preferences/menus/themes etc. so my first impression abou libranet is like... BAD. i tried out the suse eval cd and it's c00l, but it's not free (it also detected my ethernet cards etc very well)... :( :(
and since nobody can help me with the ftp install, i'm stuck with crap-distros like libranet.

edit: changed the name since the internet problem was solved.

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Ludootje ]

01-25-2002, 01:46 PM

although i told it to *not* format my /home, it did so.

No you didn't.

lilo: it automatically boots my linux, doesn't gives me the choice to boot my windows.

That's because that's how you set it up.

my internet: i set up my internet correctly (i'm sure of that for 100%) using xadmin, but it isn't working.
so my questions:

You have not set it up correctly. Stop using xadmin. Don't you know gui config tools suck?

what's the lilo config file (so i can edit it manually)?

/etc/lilo.conf

where the config file for my internet (so i can edit it manually)?

That completly depends on what program you are using. I'm guessing your using DHCP, which should just be a case of running dhcpcd or pump.

I'm sorry for being a complete twat, but your wrong mate.

it's when you quit using mandrake you realize how much the other distros sucks

This should be, "it's when you quit using mandrake you realize how dependant you were on it's gui config tools"

And this:
lilo: it automatically boots my linux, doesn't gives me the choice to boot my windows.

Means that you didn't tell it you had any other OSs on the computer and told it to overwrite the MBR with the information you gave it.

Once again, I'm sorry for being a ****. It's for your own good.

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: 7 ]

01-25-2002, 01:51 PM

I'm really very happy to help you set up LILO properly, and to sort out your connection, but I really think you should stick with Redhat/Mandrake.

Are you using dhcpcd or pump? What happens when you run it?

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by 7:
That's because that's how you set it up.
i never had the chance to set it up, never asked me for it.
You have not set it up correctly. Stop using xadmin. Don't you know gui config tools suck?
they don't. some do. libranet's one do. mandrake one's don't.
and why should a gui suck more than a text-based user interface? :rolleyes:
... but your wrong mate.
that's just your view of it.
Means that you didn't tell it you had any other OSs on the computer and told it to overwrite the MBR with the information you gave it.
it never asked me for it neither.
This should be, "it's when you quit using mandrake you realize how dependant you were on it's gui config tools"
should i feel bad about that? if those dudes from libranet tell it's userfriendly, than i pick it because it's supposed to be userfriendly. seems it isn't at all.
... but I really think you should stick with Redhat/Mandrake.
uh why?

sarah31

01-25-2002, 02:42 PM

When I was installing LibraNet it gave me the choice to initialize or leave the partitions alone and it did this. So, obviously you issued the wrong choice. It happens and it is agrivating but don't blame the installer for something you likely failed to do.

From console/terminal,

vim /etc/lilo.conf

Use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the page. Then hit "i" and it should say "-insert_-" at the bottom of the page.

Type:
other=/dev/hdax
label=Windows

then hit "esc"
then type:
:wq!

then run /sbin/lilo

This is right from their manual that you can download along with the iso. The manual is short and very helpful. There is also a decent support page. If you are really stuck join the email help list that they have. But don't take the attitude with you or they will flat out not assist you.

As for your DHCP try this link to the LibraNet help site.
http://www.libranet.com/support/view.cgi?item=0109.txt

I never said that it was as user friendly than Mandrake or Suse. I have said it is more friendly THAN SOME WOULD MAKE IT SEEM.
Just because the installer isn't a pretty little picture doesn't mean that it sucks. I judge the distro on how it performs and LibraNet performs just fine thank you.

Just one last note. If you continue to rely on GUIs for everything then you are putting yourself at a serious disadvantage if your GUI ever breaks. Learning the commandline even basically and learning to use editors such vi, vim, and emacs are important.

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by sarah31:
When I was installing LibraNet it gave me the choice to initialize or leave the partitions alone and it did this. So, obviously you issued the wrong choice. It happens and it is agrivating but don't blame the installer for something you likely failed to do.
yes, you're right, and i'm 100% sure i said it to format the /

From console/terminal,

vim /etc/lilo.conf

Use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the page. Then hit "i" and it should say "-insert_-" at the bottom of the page.

Type:
other=/dev/hdax
label=Windows

then hit "esc"
then type:
:wq!

then run /sbin/lilo

This is right from their manual that you can download along with the iso. The manual is short and very helpful. There is also a decent support page. If you are really stuck join the email help list that they have.
thank you!
But don't take the attitude with you or they will flat out not assist you.
"the attitude" lol.. i'm just giving my opinion.

As for your DHCP try this link to the LibraNet help site.
http://www.libranet.com/support/view.cgi?item=0109.txt
thanks, hope that will be helpful.

I never said that it was as user friendly than Mandrake or Suse. I have said it is more friendly THAN SOME WOULD MAKE IT SEEM.
Just because the installer isn't a pretty little picture doesn't mean that it sucks. I judge the distro on how it performs and LibraNet performs just fine thank you.
i'm not talking about you here, seems like you take it like that 'cause you use 'I' :confused:? no idea where you're talking about :)
ow, and i think that the performance & userfriendlyness are 2 different things.
i'm talking about this:

from libranet.com:
Libranet is user friendly for new users and a quick track to an accomplished desktop for experienced users. The simple install together with automatic configuration and selection of software packages, makes the system easy to get up and running.

Just one last note. If you continue to rely on GUIs for everything then you are putting yourself at a serious disadvantage if your GUI ever breaks. Learning the commandline even basically and learning to use editors such vi, vim, and emacs are important.
i can use the command 'line' basically, and i can use vim.

thanks for your help.

sarah31

01-25-2002, 03:04 PM

Sorry for being hard on you. Well, I have to give you that LibraNet.com is misleading the user a bit with that quote you give. I will have to send them something about that.

Again, my apologies for attacking you in that manner. I hope that those suggestion help and your experience becomes a little more positive. I really do know how you feel. Just be glad that you don't have PPPoE, it took me a day to get that running. Oi vey! My USS printer was a wee bit of a challenge too. Libranet does need some work on autorecognition and the like. But, really, which distro doesn't need work in some way?

Cheers!

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 03:38 PM

sarah31: your help was wonderful, thanks to your link my internet works now.
lilo doesn't, but i'm about 80% sure what i have to do to make it work. Thanks a lot!
*huggie*

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 03:42 PM

just saw your last post: don't worry, i don't hate you, far from that since your help was wonderful!
as for your question about which distro doesn't need some working: suse :)
conclusion about libranet: it *might* be good, but that xadminthingie is *NOT* working. I think it simply isn't writing to the config files, since the file I had to edit (see the link you gave me) was empty.
Once again: thanks a lot. I really appreciate (no idea how to write that, sorry :)) your help.

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Ludootje ]

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 03:53 PM

ATM I'm posting from my new distro (hooray*!*) and I have one big q: of course, now I have apt-get, I'd like to know how I set my list of servers etc, since it seems that I don't have any yet (at least, it tells me it didn't found the package 'opera') and I'd also like to know where I can find such a list.

another problem is the numlock: how can i let numlock be enable by default?

TIA

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Ludootje ]

sarah31

01-25-2002, 04:57 PM

Numlock,grr, *nixes suck for this. Well, adminmenu should fix this. However, you say that it is not working? Anyway the option is there, as a sub menu of one of the right tabs selections.

Apt sources list resides in /etc/apt/sources.list

you can go to the support page for the current configuration list. To get woody options just change the references to potato to woody and stable to testing. Then run apt-get update to make sure that your connections to the sources are working. I can give you more on this when I get home. There are also lists on the Debian home site to get your sources.list up to your desired settings.(you can also check out the post I made in this catagory about it the other day.)

You may note that many of the apps are "old" you can upgrade or you can also do an apt-get dist-upgrade and move up to woody. I would recommend this but just take a day or two to move around it and learn a little more about apt, dselect, and the other upgrasding package grabbing/installing tools. Likely you will be ready to upgrade to woody in a few days or sooner.

I hope that you enjoy LibraNet. Don't forget to take a look at joining the LibraNet email help list. If you don't end out liking LibraNet that's cool at least you gave it a shot, but I hope you do. Remember in a few weeks 2.0 should be out and it is going to be based entirely on woody.

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by sarah31:
Numlock,grr, *nixes suck for this. Well, adminmenu should fix this. However, you say that it is not working? Anyway the option is there, as a sub menu of one of the right tabs selections.
yes, you're right, thanks.
i don't know if it's working or not for sure, but it doesn't gives the impressin to work.

Apt sources list resides in /etc/apt/sources.list

you can go to the support page for the current configuration list. To get woody options just change the references to potato to woody and stable to teseting. Then run apt-get update to make sure that your connections to the sources are working. I can give you more on this when I get home. There are also lists on the Debian home site to get your sources.list up to your desired settings.
thanks.
(you can also check out the post I made in this catagory about it the other day.)
funny, i was just reading that topic with the hope to find it there :)

You may note that many of the apps are "old" you can upgrade or you can also do an apt-get dist-upgrade and move up to woody.
ow i thought that dist-upgrade just did an upgrade to a later libranet version?
is there another cmd for that which i can use when the next libranet is released?
I would recommend this but just take a day or two to move around it and learn a little more about apt, dselect, and the other upgrasding package grabbing/installing tools.
yes, i think i better wait until i get the hang of it
Likely you will be ready to upgrade to woody in a few days or sooner.
nah, since i still go to school etc i don't have that much time to spend to my distro, so it'll probably take a week or so :)

I hope that you enjoy LibraNet.
erm, i suppose i'm wrong, but i was wondering, what's so special about it? i don't say it's *bad*, but there's nothing to say about "wow, i never saw such a thing before", while you can say that mandrake has some *special* stuff... but if that apt-get works, i'll be very happy.
Don't forget to take a look at joining the LibraNet email help list.
ow, good to know there's a mailing lists, ty
If you don't end out liking LibraNet that's cool at least you gave it a shot, but I hope you do. Remember in a few weeks 2.0 should be out and it is going to be based entirely on woody.
yes, i heard there's a new version coming out soon, but i had no idea when.

ow, and i have another question: anyone an idea how i can add a partition, by making my /home (currently >23gig :D) smaller? (maybe there's an app for it i can find on those apt-get servers?)

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 05:17 PM

aaargh this is not funny, i have the same list as you in your topic, which means that i have servers, and that it should work :(

sarah31

01-25-2002, 05:19 PM

OH I just thought of something. Well, a couple of things.

First when you ran /sbin/lilo did it say that it "added xxx"? If it did and you rebooted and it didn't work then you will have to hit shift when the Lilo prompt first comes up. That should give you the Lilo boot: prompt at which point you just enter your label that you put in the lilo.conf (ie. type win98)

Likely you have the sources.list but Opera may not be one of the packages available in the Debian package tree. You can enter the woody sources and take a look for Opera there or on the Debian site you can look at what packages are available in the for of Debian binaries. I am not certain, but I don't think that Opera is available in the tree.

One other thing I should warn you about is that LibraNet does not have Supermount so you will have to type in at terminal mount /floppy or /cdrom or if you have the icons on your desktop then right-clicking and selecting mount will work. I still have trouble with the floppy operation (ie. switching disk in the sam e session) but no troubles with the cdrom mounting. Actually they need to work on the floppy aspect of their distro, in my opinion anyway.

Anyway I hope this helps you out.

Ludootje

01-25-2002, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by sarah31:
OH I just thought of something. Well, a couple of things.

First when you ran /sbin/lilo did it say that it "added xxx"?
yes it did
If it did and you rebooted and it didn't work then you will have to hit shift when the Lilo prompt first comes up. That should give you the Lilo boot: prompt at which point you just enter your label that you put in the lilo.conf (ie. type win98)
owkay, hope it works with that

Likely you have the sources.list but Opera may not be one of the packages available in the Debian package tree. You can enter the woody sources and take a look for Opera there or on the Debian site you can look at what packages are available in the for of Debian binaries. I am not certain, but I don't think that Opera is available in the tree.
at least, now it seems to connect, which it didn't an hour or so ago (i maybe mistyped something :confused:?)

One other thing I should warn you about is that LibraNet does not have Supermount so you will have to type in at terminal mount /floppy or /cdrom or if you have the icons on your desktop then right-clicking and selecting mount will work. I still have trouble with the floppy operation (ie. switching disk in the sam e session) but no troubles with the cdrom mounting. Actually they need to work on the floppy aspect of their distro, in my opinion anyway.
ow good to know, thanks.

Anyway I hope this helps you out.
yes it did, thanks you

sarah31

01-25-2002, 05:52 PM

I'm sorry I can't help you with the partitioning but there must be some way to do it.

As for the upgrading to the new version via apt-get dist-upgrade. Likely they will post the changes that need to be made to your sources.list and that should do the trick. Mostly, i assume, that it will be a simple matter of changing the libranet source slightly and changing the references to potato to woody. The LibraNet changes will give you the LibraNet stuff and the rest will come from the Debian woody sources.

The one advantage to waiting for the new version to come out is that you will maintain more of the defaults that you may come to like in LibraNet.

Why do I rave about it? Well, granted there is nothing extremely standout to make it differ but I do like having good upgrade tools and the adminmenu rocks. I did two click toi change my drivers when I installed my new video card. And it is available in console as well in case your X gets screwed up. The manner in which it is installed, with the base going in first then X, is nice because then X won't screw your install if things go bad. There are other little things but they are mere perference and not actual noticable benmefits to others.

scanez

01-25-2002, 06:19 PM

Just a note: Opera isn't included in the main Debian servers yet, you'll have to download the .deb from their website and installed it manually with dpkg -i. It may also ask to install xlib6z or something of that sort (I forget exactly what it is)...anyway, that IS on the Debian servers so apt-get will install that fine.

Cheers
SC

sarah31

01-25-2002, 07:46 PM

Thanks scanez i might have to check that out myself!

Ludootje

01-26-2002, 06:13 AM

I have to say I'm beginning to like it. The copy&paste, which didn't worked with mandrake - and that was a real pain sometimes to type over all the messages i got from my term - works fine here. There's one thing which scares me, it already :eek:crashed two times :eek:
not just an app which isn't working, i can live with that since their is plenty of choice for apps under linux, but IceWM logs me out. Even more scary is that i wasn't doing something special :confused: I really hope it's just IceWM, so I'm using :rolleyes:gnome :rolleyes: right now. The problem is that I really love IceWM :) Anyway I suppose upgrading to the latest version of IceWM will fix the problem. As for the partition tool, I hope I'll find one on freshmeat.
I haven't been able to use apt-get yet, since my dad shut down the server pretty early yesterday, while it was still connecting. I'm surprised that takes so much time, I was thinking that I type 'apt-get install foo' and bang it was installed within 20 seconds :D Going to try that apt-get again now.

Ludootje

01-26-2002, 10:10 AM

until now, apt-get never worked.
here's an example:

localhost:/home/ludo# apt-get install konqueror
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
kdebase-libs kdelibs3 libkonq3
4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 197 not upgraded.
Need to get 7785kB of archives. After unpacking 7930kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Err ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato/main kdebase-libs 4:2.1.1.0-0.potato3
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Err ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato/main kdelibs3 4:2.1.2-0.potato1
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Err ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato/main konqueror 4:2.1.1.0-0.potato3
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Err ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato/main libkonq3 4:2.1.1.0-0.potato3
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/kdebase-
libs_2.1.1.0-0.potato3_i386.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/kdelibs3
_2.1.2-0.potato1_i386.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/konquero
r_2.1.1.0-0.potato3_i386.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/libkonq3
_2.1.1.0-0.potato3_i386.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
localhost:/home/ludo#

or when i try it with xadminmenu it takes >5min to connect, so after a while i let it stop. not directly because after 5 minutes it's not connected, but because after 5 minutes it's still at the same percentage it was in the beginning :(

so what i'm going to do now: make the line with the server non-us.debian.org a comment, since that's where it's hanging. i hope that will work

my q: is there nothing i need to configure or whatever?

[ 26 January 2002: Message edited by: Ludootje ]

Ludootje

01-26-2002, 10:32 AM

w000t! it worked when that line was commented! i (at least, that's what i hope :D) now should have the latest version of konqueror installed.
another problem:

localhost:/etc/apt# apt-get install galeon
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, galeon is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 197 not upgraded.
[1]+ Done rxvt
localhost:/etc/apt#

though:

localhost:/etc/apt# galeon &
[1] 9328
localhost:/etc/apt#
GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.

** WARNING **: GConf error:
Object Activation Framework error:
OAF problem description: 'Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred'

** WARNING **: GConf Error: GConf error:
Object Activation Framework error:
OAF problem description: 'Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred'
All further errors shown only on terminal

** WARNING **: GConf error:
Object Activation Framework error:
OAF problem description: 'Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred'

** WARNING **: GConf error:
Object Activation Framework error:
OAF problem description: 'Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred'
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: undefined symbol: gtk_moz_embed_set_profile_path

[1]+ Exit 127 galeon
localhost:/etc/apt#

and i really want that browser :( :( :(

Ludootje

01-26-2002, 10:39 AM

so now here's a conclusion of my problems, to keep it easy ;)

galeon doesn't seem to work, while it's installed. the error it gives is seen above this post.

anyone knows how i can see what's on the apt-get databases?
eg a command like: apt-get ls netscape* if you see what i mean...

when i download a .deb, which isn't on the servers, how can i install it?
i thought it was something like dpkg foo.deb, but i don't wanna mess around with stuff i'm not sure of... (scanez gave an example above, but since it isn't 100% complete i'm not sure)

how can i tell it i want to upgrade all my apps to the latest STABLE versions, and how can i tell it to upgrade my apps to the latest versions, even if that latest version isn't stable?

lilo: you're right sarah, i can tell it which os to boot by hitting the shift-key. is it possible to have a menu too? (this question is more like *optional*, since i'm happy with my lilo like it is now - although that grub is still way better of course :p)

an apt-get error:

localhost:/etc/apt# apt-get install grub
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
grub
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 197 not upgraded.
Need to get 155kB of archives. After unpacking 267kB will be used.
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main grub 0.5.93.1
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/base/grub_0.5.93.1.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?

so i try it with --fix-missing:

localhost:/etc/apt# apt-get install --fix-missing grub
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
grub
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 197 not upgraded.
Need to get 155kB of archives. After unpacking 267kB will be used.
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main grub 0.5.93.1
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/base/grub_0.5.93.1.deb
Read error - read (115 Operation now in progress)
localhost:/etc/apt#

partitioning tool: i'd like to add a new partition by making my /home (currently >23gig :D) smaller

[ 26 January 2002: Message edited by: Ludootje ]

sarah31

01-26-2002, 11:56 AM

Sorry still can't help with the partitioning tool :(

To view the package trees goto:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

As a run down. LibraNet is mostly based on the stable package tree. This tree is also known as "potato". Testing is know as "woody" and will be Debian's next full release (3.0). LibraNet has some aspects of "woody" though I don't know what. LibraNet 2.0 will be based entirely on "woody". For the most part "woody" is stable. Many people run it with out trouble. Unstable is also known as "SID" this is the very future release of Debian. Much of it is stable and I have heard of people running it.

Many of potato's packages are old and you will likely want to upgrade them. Consider woody stable and get the packages from there by adding these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

Or change all instances of potato to woody in your current sources.list. I would remove the KDE and Ximian lines completely. Here is my very short sources list:

# Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits
# your mirror contains.
# deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especial
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs

#Libranet
deb http://libranetlinux.com updates/

#Debian
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

#Debian Non-US
deb http://non-us.debian.org/ woody/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/ woody/non_US main contrib non-free

#Debian security updates
#deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free

#KDE
#deb ftp://kde.debian.net/debian potato main crypto optional qt1apps
#deb-src ftp://kde.debian.net/debian potato main crypto optional qt1apps

you'll notice that I have remove all instances of potato and commented out (with the #) the src, security, and KDE stuff.

Once you have done your editing run:

apt-get update

with this your sources will be updated and you will get an idea of how fast you will connect. If this process takes a real long time find a mirror that is closer to you here:
http://www.debian.org/mirror/webmirror

(I can help you with this too)

to install down loaded .debs is:

dpkg -i <filename>

You can read about dpkg and other package management tools here:
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.html

this may be helpful too:
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.html

EDIT: I hate to say it but the man pages on apt-get are very good, check them out too!

[ 26 January 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]

Syngin

01-26-2002, 12:09 PM

Thanks sarah31. I was just going to post a question about switching apt over to include Woody packages.

Oops. I might have wanted to think about using the upgrade command though hehe after adding those extra deb lines to sources.list. I think my Potato install is now Woody ;)

Syngin

01-26-2002, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Syngin:
Thanks sarah31. I was just going to post a question about switching apt over to include Woody packages.

Oops. I might have wanted to think about using the upgrade command though hehe after adding those extra deb lines to sources.list. I think my Potato install is now Woody ;)

Oh yeah, it went and updated everything to Woody's version.

Ludootje

01-26-2002, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by sarah31:
with this your sources will be updated and you will get an idea of how fast you will connect. If this process takes a real long time find a mirror that is closer to you here:
http://www.debian.org/mirror/webmirror
since the netherlands are close, i can simply change the line
#Debian
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
to
#Debian
deb http://www.nl.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
i suppose.
thanks for helping me out again :)
as for the partition tool, blackknight advised me GNU parted, but since their is only the source code i'll have to compile :/
i hope it works... it never did on my mandrake, if it works on libranet, i'll be *really* happy

sarah31

01-26-2002, 02:02 PM

In short, yes. Changing your sources in the manner you suggest should work. To get the non-US packages the entery would be:

deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/pub/linux/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main contrib non-free

or along those lines. If you get a 404 error then it is just a matter of tweaking it or trying another source. If you have trouble with the Netherlands sources, try the next nearest source.

As well, if you think that your system has been converted to mostly woody you could install netselect which will choose the fastest source for you and write them into your sources.list. If you check out my sources.list post I think that it is mentioned there. If it isn't I think there is an email or two that I have that I can send along to you. I have been tinkering with it for awhile. I used dselect a few times but that didn't go well so I did more research and have been gradually moving towards upgrading my system.

One of the reasons I have been going slower too is that it is getting very close to 2.0 now so I may just wait a bit and just do an apt-get dist-upgrade then. If this will be possible.

scanez

01-26-2002, 02:21 PM

Another note, I'm not sure if Libranet has this but I assume it would...you can check what packages are currently available with apt-cache

apt-cache search name

will search for a package called name and

apt-cache show name

will show information on a package called name. man apt-cache for more info ;)

sarah31

01-26-2002, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by scanez:
Another note, I'm not sure if Libranet has this but I assume it would...you can check what packages are currently available with apt-cache

apt-cache search name

will search for a package called name and

apt-cache show name

will show information on a package called name. man apt-cache for more info ;)

I had to check this out! Yes scanez it is indeed there. Thanks for the info. (note be sure that you are using a scrallable terminal because the list is long!)

I have to admit that the man pages on the package managing tools, except for console-apt which is not quite as good, is very helpful! If only all man page were this good.

;)