Please review my sources.list and ...

[sarah31]

Okay I did a search and couldn't really find A nice condensed list. I want to upgrade my LibraNet from "potato"to "woody", not "SID"(well not at the moment anyway!). Please inform me of the changes to this list that I need to make.(Woody uses XFree86 4.1 right?)

# Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits
# your mirror contains.
# deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especial
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs

#Libranet
deb http://libranetlinux.com updates/

#Debian
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
#deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free

#Debian Non-US
deb http://non-us.debian.org/ potato/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/ potato/non-US main contrib non-free

#Debian security updates
deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free

#KDE
deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian potato main crypto optional qt1apps
#deb-src ftp://kde.tdyc.com/debian potato main crypto optional qt1apps

#helixcode

deb http://marillat.free.fr/ stable main
deb http://webmail.fiberia.com mplayer/
deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

On another upgrade and install note I was trying out capt (console-apt) and I would go through the list choose my packages, etc. at the end nothing happened even though I gave the proper commands to it. No installs upgrade, messages....nothing could someone please give me the quick low-down on how they run it so I can compare and see what I was doing wrong? I won't need it right away but this app could come in handy later.

Thanks alot in advance and my apologies for repeating this yet again!

[PimpHolic]

Originally posted by sarah31:
[QB]
#Debian
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
QB]

im not 100% sure, but i believe that you change the potato part to unstable

[z0mbix]

Change all instances of:

stable to testing
and
potato to woody

Sid = Unstable so, don't use this.

[sarah31]

Thanks guys. Any answers to the console-apt question? I would lke to use this in the future but I can't seem to get it to actually install anything. A quick tutorial for my comparison would help me to get going with this. Remember I have followed the steps as stated in the man pages and haven't had any luck installing chosen packages (it does nothing, not even error messages).

[Strike]

aptitude is what I use and I find it very much preferable to console-apt, once you get the non-potato package, it's great.

[Frith]

yea, I prefer using aptitude to install things, too. I like how it asks you for confirmation before actually uncompressing and installing your files (apt-get doesn't do this, and if one of the servers in your sources.list has a missing file or dep, it will try to install the program minus those files and it could end up royally screwing up your system).

did you ever take a look at the sources.list at my website? (yea, I know it sucks, but the list more than makes up for it, IMHO)

I don't really see any point in having a condensed list; I'd rather have MORE sources than I need rather than having too few sources.

[Strogian]

Well since this seems to be the place to put this, can somone check out this (very short) sources.list file of mine? I basically just took the sample file and modified it to fit my purposes. And if there would be a problem in a sources.list file, could that possibly cause apt-get to have problems when trying to download/install packages? Or would it just figure out that one of the lines is screwed up during the "apt-get update," and just decide not to even try to use it during an update?

# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

# Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US main contrib non-free

[Frith]

The only time Debian might barf on you when you shift from potato to woody or sid, or from any one of those to the other, is if you didn't do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

Well, that was the only time it barfed on ME in my experiences with it.

[Frith]

Originally posted by Strogian:
<STRONG>I basically just took the sample file and modified it to fit my purposes. And if there would be a problem in a sources.list file, could that possibly cause apt-get to have problems when trying to download/install packages? Or would it just figure out that one of the lines is screwed up during the "apt-get update," and just decide not to even try to use it during an update?</STRONG>

there's always the possibility that the default servers may have too many users accessing it and are rejecting all new connections... :rolleyes:

there's a mirror list here (http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full)

[Strogian]

Originally posted by Frith:
<STRONG>there's always the possibility that the default servers may have too many users accessing it and are rejecting all new connections... :rolleyes:

there's a mirror list here (http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full)</STRONG>

It would tell me if that happened though, right? (with a fairly clear error message?) My problem is that I'm upgrading from stable to testing, and at the end I get a bunch of size mismatch errors. And yes, I'm doing a dist-upgrade.

[Frith]

Originally posted by Strogian:
<STRONG>It would tell me if that happened though, right? (with a fairly clear error message?) My problem is that I'm upgrading from stable to testing, and at the end I get a bunch of size mismatch errors. And yes, I'm doing a dist-upgrade.</STRONG>

I'm not sure about that one...maybe you should try some other servers or something. I dunno...

[Frith]

Originally posted by sarah31:
<STRONG>(Woody uses XFree86 4.1 right?)</STRONG>

yes (http://packages.debian.org/testing/x11/x-window-system-core.html)

[sarah31]

You have a web site and a list of sources? Where? I only wanted a condensed list because I took a look a Craig massive list and thought that it would take netirely too long to get it all set up or am I wrong? Is there a means of copying and pasting sources lists? Or a danger in doing so? I just want woddy right now and I will get sid packages as I see fit.

So it sounds as though apt-get dist-upgrade is the best bet. Since I use LibraNet are there certain problems I can expect?

Thanks for the input all so far. I want to do this tonight or tomorrow night if can get ready and be confident that I am not going to screw myself too badly :)

[Frith]

I think my sources.list may be Craig's list (it's credited to a 'CM'). (my page is here (http://frithiof.0catch.com), btw)

Regardless, you should take a look at (t)his list and edit it as you see fit. There are plenty of extra goodies in there that you may end up needing later on.

On a somewhat unrelated note, when I went through the list I had, I noticed that there was a directory for E17, which presumably meant Enlightenment version 0.17. Anyway, my question is this: does anyone have any idea when this version might be released?

&lt;Edit&gt;If you use that list, you'll definitely have to edit it before using it. And don't worry about it too much; I only had to edit that thing twice in the last three months.

[ 24 January 2002: Message edited by: Frith ]

[sarah31]

Likely I will edit what I got right now and then just add your list on afterwards. Well except for some of the woody stuff i will likely add that now.

So to sum it up "potato" gets changed to "woody" and stable to unstable and I am pointed to woody right. Then apt-get dist upgrade and have a nap. Right?

[Frith]

no.

potato to woody and stable to testing

[sarah31]

MMmmm...potato woody testing stable good! Yum! Fith funny..hur..hur! me go now, got to catch some of that potato woody beastie thingy. Nar woonga!

[Frith]

Originally posted by sarah31:
<STRONG>MMmmm...potato woody testing stable good! Yum! Fith funny..hur..hur! me go now, got to catch some of that potato woody beastie thingy. Nar woonga!</STRONG>

Um...did I tell a joke?

Maybe I shouldn't even bother trying to help people out on here.

[sarah31]

Originally posted by Frith:
<STRONG>Um...did I tell a joke?

Maybe I shouldn't even bother trying to help people out on here.</STRONG>

No I am just going crazy. Oh and yes keep helping. Sorry if I offended you.

:(
EDIT: I am actually pouring through your sources.list now and adding a pile o testing and woody stuff right now to mine. I like your page by the way. Links work no fancy schmancy added glitz.

Question about the term "deb-src"? Is that the source code for the stuff that matches it (ie. deb-src http://debian.someplace.edu...is the source files for what you get off of deb http://debian.someplace.edu.....)?

[ 24 January 2002: Message edited by: sarah31 ]

[bdl]

Originally posted by PimpHolic:
<STRONG>im not 100% sure, but i believe that you change the potato part to unstable</STRONG>

Seeing this made me think of something; you probably want to keep at least one instance of 'potato' in your sources list, occasionally you'll run across something that may not have been ported to testing or unstable and want to use it. I would also not use ftp://ftp.debian.org because I've found it unreliable and slow as molasses, but YMMV. I normally get great results from the http server myself. As far as Craigs list is concerned, I don't even know if it's maintained, but it's a big bloated mess anyway; you'll edit the thing for an hour and then wait another hour while it tries to connect to every apt source on the thing. Again, YMMV, just trying to save you some grief.

[sarah31]

Thanks bdl, less grief makes me happy.

[smokybobo]

I dunno if this will help...

I recently got into debian and found a very useful tool (a la the apt howto) called netselect

the newer versions include a tool called netselect-apt

What this does is if you call netselect-apt &lt;stable|testing|unstable&gt; then it will go and download a listing of known debian mirrors, ping them all and create a sources.list with the fastest mirror.

personally, i've found this REALLY helpful especially then I know that I'm gettin the fastest possible mirror to upgrade from (since very important since I'm on dialup)

[Ludootje]

i get a 'file not found' when i go to your page :(