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Bubba56
04-08-2004, 12:14 PM
OK, let me start by saying that i am a n00b to Linux, so please forgive if this is a fundementally flawed question :P I wanted to start to know Linux more (again) last summer, so I picked Redhat 9.0, figuring the most recent would have all the latest and greatest and it was a name I was familiar with. Things started out fine, loaded and installed on the non-descript box I had sitting around. Then I started getting issues where it would not load if I had the machine connected to the internet at boot up. I had to get in the habit of un-plugging the cat5 from the pc before I booted, then go into network settings and initialize/start the nic, then all was well. I e-mailed Redhat support but the ideas etc did not fix the issue.
Since that time, I have drifted off from Linux (NOT because of this issue), and I want to get back to it again. My problem is this, I got e-mails from Redhat network in January(??) saying that they were discontinuing support for all packages including Redhat 9.0 (pretty new distro), and also the support for my "machine/or image" (can't recall what they call this)on their site. SO... should I bother staying with Redhat 9.0, or go with another distro as it seems like they are only offering support for enterprise/corporate customers?? I would hate to think that I wasted a lot of coin on not only the distro(retail package) but I had purchased a "bible" type of book ($49 huge book). Please no flames, I know, I know, I should be using Linux and not on Windows etc, heh but DAoc and now Lineage II don't run on Linux boxes :P
Thanks in advance for any help/ideas/support :))
carbon-12
04-08-2004, 12:30 PM
Well Red Hat started up the Fedora project. Its community driven, free, and is pretty up to date.
http://fedora.redhat.com/
I personally hate Fedora because of the way they crippled multimedia support/plugins/etc. Maybe you should try out Mandrake. It was my first distro and I think its great.
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en-us/
You can still use your manual. The GUI tools wont be the same but it would still help alot to teach you how to use the command line.
mdwatts
04-08-2004, 12:32 PM
Quite a few Redhat users have been switching to Fedora.
http://fedora.redhat.com/
We also have a long, long sticky thread in /dev/random on Redhat dropping support.
elitewhiteghost
04-08-2004, 12:43 PM
You can still use red hat 9.0 use the apt-get you can download for red hat:)
Icarus
04-08-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by carbon-12
I personally hate Fedora because of the way they crippled multimedia support/plugins/etc. Maybe you should try out Mandrake. It was my first distro and I think its great. Crippled? You mean didn't include because they are providing a totally free distro that does not include any closed/proprietary software (mp3, DVD decryption, Flash, ect..)
They didn't cripple anything, they are doing the CYA (Cover Your Arse) approach to avoid any future lawsuits. mp3 if free for distribution NOW, but that does not mean in the future the copyright/patent holders will not turn around and DEMAND payment for using their software (Microsoft did this with DOS, learn from history or be doomed to repeat it)
Anyway, none of these features are difficult to add into Fedora...besides Flash, they are simple RPMs
Red Hat has made a business move and decided not to make or support a free home-user operating system. They suggest clients to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux (of course) and have moved all of their 'free' support to Fedora. Red Hat still contributes to Fedora and helps in bug reports, but Red Hat is focusing on the support side now. Which has proven to be a very good decision as they have shown consistent profits.
If you want to use Red Hat at home, use Fedora. Fedora 1 looks and feels just like Red Hat 9.
elitewhiteghost
04-08-2004, 12:49 PM
I not sure what wrost fedora or mandrake 10.I would just stay with red hat and recompile your kernel.:D
carbon-12
04-08-2004, 01:16 PM
@mahdi
Yeah I guess. I still hate Fedora though :)
Bubba56
04-08-2004, 01:38 PM
Well, nowthat I have read the other thread about no support etc, and your comments, I think I will stick with REdhat9 --> Fedora as suggested. As I stated I am a Linux N00b and downloading(tedious even with cable modem), recompiling( wouldn't have a clue how), etc; multiple different distros just doesn't seem to be my thing. I am not sure if this is a good 'learning" distro or not, but I think I will stick with it , at least until I learn more :) I look forward to learning more from the community > Thanks folks.
When the Fedora project started, they said they were going to keep doing updates for Red Hat for a time (that was 3, 4 months?).
EnigmaOne
04-08-2004, 07:39 PM
Yeah, RH9 updates (through up2date) were supposed to hit the water the first of this month..according to the stated plan, that is.
happybunny
04-08-2004, 09:12 PM
isnt redhat 7,8,9 supported under the Fedora Legacy project?
Never looked for it but thats what they keep telling us from HP.
My 2 cents:
RH deployed RH 9 two weeks after Mandrake 9 came out. RH9 was really RH8 with new wallpaper, but it seems like they wanted to out Rev Mandrake.
Both RH and HP/Compaq were pushing RH 9 as THE server distro....support and drivers and love was all around. For about 3 weeks.
Then RH 9 fell off everyone's webpage, RH dropped that entire line, HP forsaked everyone by abandoning RH and moving the support to SUSE.
Then, once again, HP threw its support behind RH ES2.1, then 3. And now they don't support RH 3 without Update 1 installed. But they also support SUSE, but they don't "advertise" that as much.
Not a flame, but, unfortunatly, linux is in turmoil. Too many options, and ironically, not enough support from the big players.
For example: We are trying to deploy linux for what ever it can do. Last year we chose RH 8 for DNS since it was supported all around. Now there is no official support.
We want to try Oracle, but they don't support this distro, and our hardware vendor (HP) doesn't support that version, while Novell offers SUSE, but HP doesn't support SUSE 8.
EMC only VERY recently started supporting RH3, but in no way do they support linux clustering of any flavor.
I also understand that you cannot, CANNOT, buy a Dell desktop without Windows. The best they can do is allow a dual boot option (Windows/linux). This is from someone who tried to buy via Dell phone call.
IBM has a TON of great doc's on linux and they are now in bed with Novell and SUSE and HP also threw their support over their recently.
Anyway, i am ranting....