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cereal83
03-23-2004, 10:12 PM
I just bought this sound card. I boot into linux and I get an error since I was using onboard sound before. It said the file was moddifed or something. Anyways. I log in and I have no sound. I have checked out the website and there are no linux driviers. I went into hardware config but I have no idea what to do there. Can anybody help?

Mandrake 10.0 Community
KDE 3.2
2.1 speaker setup

I get no sound at all. Please help!

Thanks

DSwain
03-23-2004, 11:10 PM
ahhh my friend, my friend, return that card. you're running down a beaten trail, as i have one myself, and there is about 0 support for it. If you really want, though, try OSS on google, i think that supports it, but its not very good support. ALSA has no support for it.

http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120078&highlight=audigy

i think we tried most everything we could on that one....

i'd take it back and get a Sound Blaster Live! 512 or up to the Audigy 2. Why isn't the LS supported? who knows.....

JamminJoeyB
03-23-2004, 11:57 PM
I'm with you DSwain, why isn't this card supported?

What is so different about this card that the emu10k1 module won't work with it.

You'd think that just about every other creative card made works with that module, but this one doesn't.

cereal83
03-24-2004, 12:55 AM
well I am not gonna return the card just because it doesn't work on linux. Thats pretty sad that Linux doesn't support a main sound card.

well thanks


Bye


** deleteing linux partition **

thaddaeus
03-24-2004, 01:40 AM
in mandrake 9.2 i got it running under the emu10k, maybe diffrent chips er somthing, my digital out works well to (somtimes), although very unstable under slackware 9.1,. I know that may not help, but at least it gives hope :)

cereal83
03-24-2004, 02:23 AM
I didn't delete linux yet. I looked around for an alternative but no luck yet. I tried the OSS. Install went good but it won't load or something.

I just need some sound. I don't need top of the line sound. Imagine using an OS without sound. I just need to know when I get msn messages and stuff like that.

Does freebsd or an OS like that support this sound card?

DSwain
03-24-2004, 08:04 AM
as far as i know: windows is the only supporting OS for the AudigyLS : / its sad i know, but true. like i said, the only thing i could ever get working is the OSS driver and it was poor, very very poor, but it worked a few times. I guess you could try playing around with the newest emu10k1 driver and see if stuff starts working on it, but I never could with it.

pezplaya
03-24-2004, 08:32 AM
On www.opensound.com, the latest version of OSS says that it has an Audigy LS beta driver.

I'm not sure if you tried the latest version of OSS, but you might want to give it a shot.

http://www.opensound.com/

Sound Blaster Audigy LS *BETA*

Digit0
03-24-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by cereal83
Thats pretty sad that Linux doesn't support a main sound card.


It is not either Linus Trovals or Linux OS job to support a specific computer component or periferal. It is the manufacturer. You might want to send Creative an email...

mdwatts
03-24-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by cereal83
Thats pretty sad that Linux doesn't support a main sound card.


:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Digit0
It is not either Linus Trovals or Linux OS job to support a specific computer component or periferal. It is the manufacturer. You might want to send Creative an email...


Exactly as it's the manufacturers responsibility to provide OS drivers for their own hardware. MS does not write device drivers for their supported hardware as the manufacturer either has MS include the drivers on the Windows installation cd or they include a driver CD with their hardware.

Don't blame Linux... blame the manufacturer.

cereal83
03-24-2004, 12:24 PM
yeah. your right. It's is the manuf's job to make drivers for the differant OS's. In my eyes this is one of the reasons why linux will never beat windows. It sucks. I really want to continue using linux but with no sound it's not really that good.

I tried the new LS Beta OSS thingy. I said up there. The install went good. Buti doesn't load or something like that. I could play with that emu101k driver but I am a total linux noobie so I wouldn't know hwere to start.

Anyways, it's not looking like I am gonna have sound.

P.S. Don't roll your eyes at me :mad:


:D

DSwain
03-24-2004, 06:21 PM
oh yeah, i understand exactly that it isn't Linux's fault at all, but ya know, just frustrating that the Live, Audigy, and Audigy2's are supported, but not the LS. Trust me, nothing against Linux at all...

ShieldWolf
03-24-2004, 07:16 PM
Just in case, you did disable the onboard sound in your bios, right? You're getting sound in Windows with the Creative drivers, right?

cereal83
03-25-2004, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by ShieldWolf
Just in case, you did disable the onboard sound in your bios, right? You're getting sound in Windows with the Creative drivers, right?

I never disabled the onboard sound in bios and I am am not 100% sure I am getting sound from creative drivers, how could I find out in either Linux or Windows?

I think I will disabled right now

mdwatts
03-25-2004, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by cereal83
I never disabled the onboard sound in bios and I am am not 100% sure I am getting sound from creative drivers, how could I find out in either Linux or Windows?


In Linux, use 'lsmod' (list loaded modules) to see if there are any soundcard related modules loaded.

In Windows, look in the Device Manager for your soundcard to see the drivers and manufacturer.

cereal83
03-25-2004, 05:14 PM
I disabled the onboard sound thru bios. I looked in device manager and there were drivers for the Creative and for the onboard sound. I am not sure which one it is using.

For LS mod I get [root@localhost pinter]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
sg 38044 0
sr_mod 17060 0
fglrx 204228 117
snd-seq-oss 31232 0
snd-seq-midi-event 7552 1 snd-seq-oss
snd-seq 51024 4 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss 51812 0
snd-mixer-oss 17952 1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-intel8x0 32776 0
snd-ac97-codec 58148 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-pcm 93156 2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-intel8x0
snd-timer 24484 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
gameport 4480 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-page-alloc 11972 2 snd-intel8x0,snd-pcm
snd-mpu401-uart 7072 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-rawmidi 23616 1 snd-mpu401-uart
snd-seq-device 8008 3 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi
snd 52484 12 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-
oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-intel8x0,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-mpu401-uart,
snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device
af_packet 20520 2
hid 53312 0
raw 7616 1
ide-floppy 18752 0
ide-tape 34864 0
ide-cd 40548 0
cdrom 37184 2 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy 59444 0
8139too 23712 0
mii 4992 1 8139too
ohci1394 33956 0
ieee1394 287856 1 ohci1394
ntfs 85932 1
nls_iso8859-1 3904 2
nls_cp850 4736 1
vfat 13760 1
fat 45120 1 vfat
supermount 37876 1
intel-agp 17372 1
agpgart 31016 1 intel-agp
tuner 17292 0
bttv 146956 0
video-buf 20388 1 bttv
i2c-algo-bit 9512 1 bttv
v4l2-common 6144 1 bttv
btcx-risc 4712 1 bttv
i2c-core 23044 3 tuner,bttv,i2c-algo-bit
videodev 9536 1 bttv
soundcore 9248 2 snd,bttv
ppa 12296 0
parport_pc 32832 0
imm 12360 0
scsi_mod 114744 4 sg,sr_mod,ppa,imm
parport 38952 3 ppa,parport_pc,imm
ehci-hcd 24196 0
uhci-hcd 29104 0
usbcore 99132 5 hid,ehci-hcd,uhci-hcd
rtc 11576 0
ext3 110376 2
jbd 54328 1 ext3
[root@localhost pinter]#

This sucks. I will just have to use linux with no sound :(

MMYoung
03-25-2004, 06:19 PM
Looking at your output of lsmod I don't see any drivers for the Audigy sound card loaded at all. Everything is loaded for the Intel 8x0 onboard sound.

Have you tried to manually load the emu10k1 module? In not, open a terminal, su to root, and type in:

modprobe emu10k1

If nothing happens, i.e. no error messages, that's a good thing. Next type in:

modprobe snd-emu10k1

Again, if nothing happens that's a good thing. Now type in lsmod and see what you've got.

HTH,
MMYoung

BTW, I would tell you to compile ALSA from source, but I tried that myself on MDK 10 and borked my system to the point that the only way I could get sound was to re-install MDK 10. A pity too, as that seems to work best for Slackware and MEPIS (Debian).

Of course at this point, it ain't like it would hurt ;)!

cereal83
03-26-2004, 03:10 AM
I get this:

[root@localhost pinter]# modprobe emu10k1
[root@localhost pinter]# modprobe snd-emu10k1
[root@localhost pinter]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd-emu10k1 85508 0
snd-util-mem 4448 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-hwdep 8928 1 snd-emu10k1
emu10k1 69348 0
ac97_codec 17804 1 emu10k1
sg 38044 0
sr_mod 17060 0
md5 3872 1
ipv6 232352 8
fglrx 204228 117
snd-seq-oss 31232 0
snd-seq-midi-event 7552 1 snd-seq-oss
snd-seq 51024 4 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss 51812 0
snd-mixer-oss 17952 1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-intel8x0 32776 0
snd-ac97-codec 58148 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-intel8x0
snd-pcm 93156 3 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm-oss,snd-intel8x0
snd-timer 24484 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
gameport 4480 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-page-alloc 11972 3 snd-emu10k1,snd-intel8x0,snd-pcm
snd-mpu401-uart 7072 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-rawmidi 23616 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-mpu401-uart
snd-seq-device 8008 4 snd-emu10k1,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi
snd 52484 15 snd-emu10k1,snd-util-mem,snd-hwdep,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-intel8x0,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-mpu401-uart,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device
af_packet 20520 2
hid 53312 0
raw 7616 1
ide-floppy 18752 0
ide-tape 34864 0
ide-cd 40548 0
cdrom 37184 2 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy 59444 0
8139too 23712 0
mii 4992 1 8139too
ohci1394 33956 0
ieee1394 287856 1 ohci1394
ntfs 85932 1
nls_iso8859-1 3904 2
nls_cp850 4736 1
vfat 13760 1
fat 45120 1 vfat
supermount 37876 1
intel-agp 17372 1
agpgart 31016 1 intel-agp
tuner 17292 0
bttv 146956 0
video-buf 20388 1 bttv
i2c-algo-bit 9512 1 bttv
v4l2-common 6144 1 bttv
btcx-risc 4712 1 bttv
i2c-core 23044 3 tuner,bttv,i2c-algo-bit
videodev 9536 1 bttv
soundcore 9248 3 emu10k1,snd,bttv
ppa 12296 0
parport_pc 32832 0
imm 12360 0
scsi_mod 114744 4 sg,sr_mod,ppa,imm
parport 38952 3 ppa,parport_pc,imm
ehci-hcd 24196 0
uhci-hcd 29104 0
usbcore 99132 5 hid,ehci-hcd,uhci-hcd
rtc 11576 0
ext3 110376 2
jbd 54328 1 ext3
[root@localhost pinter]#

looks like a good thing but will the sound work now?

I will reboot and check it out

UPDATE ** I rebooted and got

[root@localhost pinter]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
sg 38044 0
sr_mod 17060 0
fglrx 204228 117
md5 3872 1
ipv6 232352 8
snd-seq-oss 31232 0
snd-seq-midi-event 7552 1 snd-seq-oss
snd-seq 51024 4 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss 51812 0
snd-mixer-oss 17952 1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-intel8x0 32776 0
snd-ac97-codec 58148 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-pcm 93156 2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-intel8x0
snd-timer 24484 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
gameport 4480 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-page-alloc 11972 2 snd-intel8x0,snd-pcm
snd-mpu401-uart 7072 1 snd-intel8x0
snd-rawmidi 23616 1 snd-mpu401-uart
snd-seq-device 8008 3 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi
snd 52484 12 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-intel8x0,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-mpu401-uart,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device
af_packet 20520 2
hid 53312 0
raw 7616 1
ide-floppy 18752 0
ide-tape 34864 0
ide-cd 40548 0
cdrom 37184 2 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy 59444 0
8139too 23712 0
mii 4992 1 8139too
ohci1394 33956 0
ieee1394 287856 1 ohci1394
ntfs 85932 1
nls_iso8859-1 3904 2
nls_cp850 4736 1
vfat 13760 1
fat 45120 1 vfat
supermount 37876 1
intel-agp 17372 1
agpgart 31016 1 intel-agp
tuner 17292 0
bttv 146956 0
video-buf 20388 1 bttv
i2c-algo-bit 9512 1 bttv
v4l2-common 6144 1 bttv
btcx-risc 4712 1 bttv
i2c-core 23044 3 tuner,bttv,i2c-algo-bit
videodev 9536 1 bttv
soundcore 9248 2 snd,bttv
ppa 12296 0
parport_pc 32832 0
imm 12360 0
scsi_mod 114744 4 sg,sr_mod,ppa,imm
parport 38952 3 ppa,parport_pc,imm
ehci-hcd 24196 0
uhci-hcd 29104 0
usbcore 99132 5 hid,ehci-hcd,uhci-hcd
rtc 11576 0
ext3 110376 2
jbd 54328 1 ext3
[root@localhost pinter]#

so I will do what u said again and see if the sound works.

**UPDATE**

No work :(

MMYoung
03-26-2004, 11:42 AM
For some reason linux keeps loading your Intel mobo sound chipset. Are you sure you disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS? I know you said you did earilier but it never hurts to double check. If you have disabled your onboard sound, well, at this point I just don't know.

Sorry,
MMYoung

cereal83
03-26-2004, 11:49 AM
OK lol I think I did. Like I went int BIOS and the only thing about on board sound was to enabled. I put it to disabled. I checked every page in the BIOS and nothing else said on board sound. So I guess I did.

Maybe if I try to reinstall Mandrake it will detect the sound card but I don't think so.

:(

mdwatts
03-26-2004, 01:45 PM
If the LS is not supported, then any loading of the emu10k1 or snd-emu10k1 modules will not help at all.

Why not just use the onboard soundcard when booted to Linux (if you are dualbooting)?

cereal83
03-26-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by mdwatts
If the LS is not supported, then any loading of the emu10k1 or snd-emu10k1 modules will not help at all.

Why not just use the onboard soundcard when booted to Linux (if you are dualbooting)?

I could do that lol

But will the old driver still be on linux? Because even if I try to play a mp3 with xmms I get errors