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Savage-Geek
03-20-2001, 10:33 AM
okj, i go through what seems to be the overly complicated setup/install for Slackware 7 (thanks again to FoBoT). Everything goes relativly smooth, but eventually it starts grumbling that it cant find usr/bin or some such other directory. It then craps out on me. that makes me sad :(
please help, am i forgetting somthing?.. i usualy run through more idiot proof installs.
:rolleyes:

willk
03-20-2001, 10:47 AM
I make no claim to be a guru here...but I think slack is pretty straightup as long as you don't try to do any fancy dancin'

Boot from the slack (assuming you have one) cd...use fdisk to setup a swap, and / I give it 2GB...more than twice what's needed....
Do the simple install....you can add or delete later....

I always install lilo to mbr...but the safest is a bootdisk....

Another thing...go to http://www.bootdisk.com get the "ultimate boot disk" it has a utility that will give you a run down on all your important HW.

MovingTarget
03-20-2001, 02:29 PM
Umm


install lilo to mbr thats nuts and risky

i NEVER install lilo to the mbr
i use slack 7.1


so as for installing it

the "simple method" would be to

boot the cd and go into fdisk

make your / partition about a 1gb this is just enough to install all the software on the cd (u can go and trim it down after its installed)

if u have the extra space on your hd
go ahead and make a partition for
/home
/usr

and though not really needed
u can make a partition for
/var for all your logs (but thats if u dont rotate your log files)

your swap partition should be double your physical ram (IF u have under 256mb)
if u have more or equal to 256mb ram u will be just fine matching the size
eg.
128mb ram /256 swap

64mb ram /128 swap

256mb ram /256 swap

512mb ram /256 swap (its hard for me to fill up 512mb of ram)


makeing the /usr partition should help you with your

cant find /usr/bin

as /usr (and all underlings on that tree will be on its partition (i use 10gb)
(it also moves that big ol 60mb linux kernel source "/usr/src/linux" there aswell freeing up 60mb of space on the / partition)

my current set up works great

/dev/hda

/dev/hda1-/------1gb type 83 linux native

/dev/hda2-swap---256mb type 82 linux swap

/dev/hda3--------Extended 20gb

/dev/hda4-/usr---10gb type 83 linux native

/dev/hda5-/home--10gb type 83 linuxn native

You should install lilo to you'r / superblock the option will be there in the install after u select the type of frame buffer

okie so its was a little more than simple but thats just a pack of general slack info i hope it helps you

[ 20 March 2001: Message edited by: MovingTarget ]

bdg1983
03-22-2001, 08:27 AM
I use slackware 7.1 and have lilo on mbr. i use both linux and winME, winME being on /dev/hda1 and linux on /dev/hda6. When I tried using lilo on the root directory it went crazy and for a long time I had to use a flooppy to boot up. When I changed the config, and had lilo on mbr it worked great. I just type DOS to get windows and linux to get ... well .. linux. Slackware runs fine for me. I am a total newbie tho, and most guys here will know better than me what to do, but using lilo on MBR has worked wonders for me :D

digitalzero
03-22-2001, 09:20 AM
I agree, MBR makes things so simple. If all goes to worst, just get that boot disk handy and format the MBR with (fdisk /mbr) and all is good.

willk
03-22-2001, 09:45 AM
I have slack on hdb 1,2,3,5,6,7
w98 on hda 1,2,3,4
LILO on the mbr.
I can use LILO to boot with WIN98, LIN-2.16, LIN-2.4.0, LIN-2.4.2
I am currently working on LFS on some spare space on hdb...that will be added to LILO.
'till you get comfortable with restoring yer mbr with fdisk /mbr or some other utility, there are others, use a boot disk for linux.
One night I must have restored the mbr then installed lilo to it a dozen times till I convinced myself it would work all the time.
Just make sure you have a good DOS boot disk with M$ fdisk.exe.
When you do yer install...make a bootdisk, and "do not install LILO"
"loadlin" is an option too...but I have never used it...it offends my "pureist" values.

Savage-Geek
03-22-2001, 12:14 PM
hmmm... i appriciate the help guys, but your talking way over my head
(im a child of dos :() i may just switch back to drake or redhat... drake if i could get ti to put down the MAKE command but noooooOOOOO!......
bah
another story, a purchased distro of drake, it doesnt give me a choic eover what "Type" of install i want (What packages) and it never installs the "Make/Makefile/Install.... etc" command. sigh.. and drake actually LIKES my hardware too......
i my dust jump my system here at work and DL a REAL distro....... any ideas on where from?? (URL)

Jobu
03-22-2001, 12:33 PM
Beyowulf,

I have read your posts, and have a quick question for you concerning your error message. When exactly is it that you are getting the message, and do you know what the exact message that you are receiving is? If it is happening during the install it could be one thing, while if it happens durring boot it could be something completely different.

With more information, a solution could possible be found. From what I have read, I could not begin to give you any help with the problem. With more information though someone may be able to help you.

Jobu

-- Everything worth learning can be read off of t-shirts.

bdg1983
03-22-2001, 12:40 PM
How have you setup your partitions?

/ & swap, or have you created separate partitions?

Savage-Geek
03-22-2001, 12:43 PM
the error actually happens during install.. i go through, i partition and everything.. (a may be doing it wrong, im used to using Drake and Druid) i go trough, its all happy.. then i tell it to install (newbie mode... i might learn somthing...) it usually gives me an error after aboput 5 minutes.. somthing along the lines of "can not find /usr/bin" i dunno, im away from the system right now so i cant look to be sure

treatment
03-22-2001, 12:48 PM
beyo,

You're getting the Slackware error because your partitioning scheme is wacked.

Post to us how big your hard-disk and you partitioned it, i.e sizes and stuff.

Savage-Geek
03-22-2001, 12:52 PM
two partitions... about 80-9o mg of swap, the rest naitive (out of about 1.3 gig.. ye i kno, tiny.. but its just a "Toy" system for me to learn *nix on)

treatment
03-22-2001, 02:38 PM
Either, you're probably running out of space on your /-partition, or your hard-drive is failing.

MBMarduk
03-22-2001, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Beyowulf:
two partitions... about 80-9o mg of swap, the rest naitive (out of about 1.3 gig.. ye i kno, tiny.. but its just a "Toy" system for me to learn *nix on)


80 mg of swap?
Dude, you're typing like me when I'm drunk!

Don't deny it! :D

Rememberkudsss, doooooon''t fdiskkk youuuur hhharddriv whn drunk.

-Mmmik-khe *hic*

Savage-Geek
03-22-2001, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by MBMarduk:

80 mg of swap?
Dude, you're typing like me when I'm drunk!

Don't deny it! :D

Rememberkudsss, doooooon''t fdiskkk youuuur hhharddriv whn drunk.

-Mmmik-khe *hic*

LOL.. im just DL the distro of mandrake.. ive NEVE had a prob with it... except for te lack of a make command... but thats why i got a REAL distro

MovingTarget
03-23-2001, 02:48 PM
eh eh eh


"going lfs"

Savage-Geek
03-23-2001, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by MovingTarget:
eh eh eh


"going lfs"

kae????

Molecule Man
03-23-2001, 03:17 PM
To get stuff like make you need to select developement install in Mandrake.

Molecule Man
03-23-2001, 03:20 PM
To get stuff like make you need to select developement install in Mandrake.

And if you only have about 1gig, then go through and only select on WM and no DB or servers progs, it will make it much smaller.

For instance don't install Apache unless you want to set up apache. If you need a web server, then install only boa it is much smaller.

Savage-Geek
03-23-2001, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Molecule Man:
To get stuff like make you need to select developement install in Mandrake.

yea, i know.. its justy on the purchased Distro of mandrake, it didnt GIVE me the option to select install type..... quite lame