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Rei01
11-02-2001, 11:58 PM
hi there i was just wondering,what is better mandrake 8.0 or mandrake 8.1,i install 8.0 and had no problems with it but then i upgraded to 8.1 and i had a bunch of bad problems


what am askin is,is it 8.1 worth or should i go with 8.0

thnx for your time

X_console
11-03-2001, 12:10 AM
What are the problems?

Rei01
11-03-2001, 12:15 AM
the probelms with 8.1,is that when kde locks up,and i have to hit reset,it would check the hds for problems,and it would finish but then give me an error,and tell me to restart,and it would just keep doing it over and over again

X_console
11-03-2001, 12:52 AM
Then the problem is with KDE. The reason your system has to run the check is because you didn't shut it down properly. Always shutdown linux using the shutdown -h now command.

Try installing Mandrake 8.1 but using a different version of KDE or using a different window manager.

Dark Ninja
11-03-2001, 05:11 AM
Also, when it does check the system files (which it will do periodically, even if you shut down correctly every time), it will give you the option of what you want the computer to do when it finds errors. Just tell the computer to fix the errors. Then, you'll be able to boot into Mandrake fine.


Dark Ninja

fateswarm
11-03-2001, 09:12 AM
X_console, you are faaaar more experienced than me, but when I am on Slackware and this happens, the problem that guy experienced with Mandrake, I get the suggestion(Slack can be user-friendly) to run the command ext2chk(or something, I can't remember) with some parameters, and to do that, I get the suggestion that I should press alt-ctrl-f6 or something.. and it works! After one reboot, everything is back to normal.

Can I follow the same procedure on Mandrake and similar immature(hehe..) distros whe this happens?

I'm only asking because I just installed Mandrake and this never happened to me yet. I just want to make sure it won't happen.

Is it the only solution that shutdown command you suggested?

- cheers.

Lindy
11-03-2001, 10:36 AM
Is it the only solution that shutdown command you suggested?

Do ctrl+alt+backspace... its the Linux version of the three finger salute, it kicks you back to the command prompt where you can restart X, reboot or whatever you want. :-)

irlandes
11-03-2001, 07:08 PM
When I asked for help some time ago, on lock-ups, people told me all this weird stuff, too, which assumes the keyboard is working. Sigh!!!

There is a correct solution to "locked-up keyboard" on some distros. In fact the keyboard is seldom locked up; the processes which look at the keyboard aren't working, so it only acts like the keyboard is locked up.

On some versions of Drake, hold down the "Alt" key, and the key which says on it, "Sysrq" at the same time, don't let them go until the next sequence is done.

Then, type the 's' key, then the 'u' key, then the 'b'key, and the kernel will synchronize, umount, and boot, then you can let go the original two keys. There should be no errors, but it is possible that you could lose work in progress, I'm not sure. But, your files won't be fscke-ed up.

Thanks to Chris H. on the koffice team for passing this tip on. Real nice young man.

Originally posted by Lindy:
<STRONG>Is it the only solution that shutdown command you suggested?

Do ctrl+alt+backspace... its the Linux version of the three finger salute, it kicks you back to the command prompt where you can restart X, reboot or whatever you want. :-)</STRONG>

irlandes
11-03-2001, 07:14 PM
By the way, drake 8.0 was cool. I got several copies of Drake 8.1, and when I installed it on a 200 MHZ machine, acted slow as if it were on a 486. I installed 8.0.

At the same time, an error in 7.1 (?) was back that had been fixed in 8.0. When I told it my monitor type, (an old HP D1194A) it wouldn't work. I had to play with generic types. 8.0 had it right. It's a QC problem, when old bugs appear in a new version. And, others reported similar problems.

Drake has, in my opinion, a really great concept, but they get in a hurry like Microsoft, and mess up when it's time to release them.

Oh, they also screwed up supermount, and already a patch is out. A few more days on a release would really help their program. They claim they beta test it, but there seems to be information that they violate that policy, and make changes at the last minute. I'm not sure, but it looks like that to me.

Originally posted by Rei01:
<STRONG>hi there i was just wondering,what is better mandrake 8.0 or mandrake 8.1,i install 8.0 and had no problems with it but then i upgraded to 8.1 and i had a bunch of bad problems


what am askin is,is it 8.1 worth or should i go with 8.0

thnx for your time</STRONG>