I NEED linuxconf !!!!

[Manish]

where can i get Linuxconf from??
I went to there home page and when i tryed to download it It just would'ent work!!
is there another site i can get from??

Not as bad as windows i guess. :)

[cage47]

What distro are you using. It comes with most distros.

[Manish]

I'm useing SuSE (7.0 i think).
And No it did'ent come with the distro.
so what shall i do?? :(

[demian]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>I'm useing SuSE (7.0 i think).
And No it did'ent come with the distro.
so what shall i do?? :(</STRONG>

SuSE comes with yast which does everything that linuxconf does. They might have not included linuxconf for a reason. It's usaually not a good idea to mix several admin tools especially when you have one tool that is specifically designed for your distro.

[Manish]

What if i don't have "Yast"????

[msalerno]

Install webmin, http://www.webmin.com

It will probably do more than linuxconf. It will also probably be safer for your config files.

[Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379]

I'm an advocate against those easy config tools... Maybe you could just learn to edit the config files yourself... It'll greatly enhance your knowledge of Linux if you do it that way.

[booboohead]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>What if i don't have "Yast"????</STRONG>Suse pretty much comes standard with it unless you specified it not to install during the initial install.

[Manish]

My brother say that linuxconf is not the same as yast!
Is this true.
I thought Linuxconf was a GUI for things like changeing your name and all that.
so that you would not have to type in commands.

Remeber i am very new to linux.
so i don't know much about.

[bugfix]

YaST is not the same as LinuxConf, its an alternative and seeing as its specifically maintained for SuSE its probably a better tool for your situation.

If you're using KDE and GNOME then there's probably a button on the task bar to go straight to YaST.

[ 19 April 2002: Message edited by: bugfix ]

[mdwatts]

Linuxconf is not included with ALL distros and most likely will not run on them even if you try to install linuxconf.

Have you tried Yast? Does it not do what you want?

Try installing Webmin ( http://www.webmin.com/webmin ). Webmin allows you to create users/groups, configure Apache, Sendmail etc.

[Manish]

Is it a GUI?
and is it easy??

[bugfix]

- Yes (like control panel for Windows)
- Yes (see above.)

(Oh yeah, make sure its YaST 2 you run, YaST 1 is text based.

[ 19 April 2002: Message edited by: bugfix ]

[Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>Is it a GUI?
and is it easy??</STRONG>

I still say that you should learn to curb your dependancy on GUI tools. Once you take the time to learn syntaxes of files you need to edit, it's a breeze. The only file I have trouble with is termcap, but you don't really ever need to hack into that.

Then, the only config tool you'll need will be VIm (or some other text editor)

[bugfix]

I also prefer working with the config files is better but it depends whether you actually want to know the system. If you'd prefer to use it in a windows type manner and not worry too much about how it does it, as long as its stable, then YaST is great.

[mdwatts]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>Is it a GUI?
and is it easy??</STRONG>

You access Webmin through a browser (i.e. Netscape/Konqueror/Mozilla)

Have a look at the url I posted and you will see exactly what it looks like and also have a look at the documentation.

[Syngin]

Originally posted by Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379:
<STRONG>I'm an advocate against those easy config tools... Maybe you could just learn to edit the config files yourself... It'll greatly enhance your knowledge of Linux if you do it that way.</STRONG>

Actually, using a gui admin tool like webmin and then seeing what command in it does what in the config file has always been the easiest way for me to learn. I did the same thing with html and a number of other things.

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by msalerno:
<STRONG>Install webmin, http://www.webmin.com

It will probably do more than linuxconf. It will also probably be safer for your config files.</STRONG>
That's like "foo sucks! use foobar!".
How about saying *why* that would be better for the config files?

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>What if i don't have "Yast"????</STRONG>
You have it. You can't uninstall it.
Bring up a terminal, type "su" and then enter the root pass. Then, type "linuxconf", to see if it's installed. To bring up yast(2), type "ya&lt;TAB&gt;"

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>My brother say that linuxconf is not the same as yast!
Is this true.
I thought Linuxconf was a GUI for things like changeing your name and all that.
so that you would not have to type in commands.</STRONG>
No one said it's the same, of course it's different! yast is suse's configuration tool, which is very good, way better to linuxconf in my opinion because it offers more and i find it to have more structure.
Linuxconf is what you think it is, and yast2 is the same. yast is the same, although not GUI (there's a difference between yast & yast2)

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by Manish:
<STRONG>Is it a GUI?
and is it easy??</STRONG>
See their site! It's webbased and clear, so therefore "easy". You go https://localhost:10000, enter "root" as username and the root pass as pass.

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by bugfix:
<STRONG>I also prefer working with the config files is better but it depends whether you actually want to know the system. If you'd prefer to use it in a windows type manner and not worry too much about how it does it, as long as its stable, then YaST is great.</STRONG>
Exactly! The day being able to edit config files isn't needed anymore to use linux, linux will replace windows!
You don't need to know all those config files if you don't want, though you will need a distro (like suse) which comes with a good administartion app (like yast/yast2)

[cage47]

Originally posted by WattsMD:
<STRONG>Linuxconf is not included with ALL </STRONG>

MOST, watts, the word was MOST. :rolleyes:
(don't worry, just yanking your chain)

I haven't tried SUSE but knew they had yast. Didn't know it was an alternative to linuxconf. So I'll leave this to y'all Suse'rs

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by cage47:
<STRONG>MOST, watts, the word was MOST. :rolleyes:
(don't worry, just yanking your chain)

I haven't tried SUSE but knew they had yast. Didn't know it was an alternative to linuxconf. So I'll leave this to y'all Suse'rs</STRONG>
afaik, it isn't included with most distros neither :p i only know of mandrake coming with linuxconf

[cage47]

Hmm, lets see on this one.
Mandrake 7.0 on
Red Hat
Debian
Corel (eeesh, hate just saying that)
Storm

That's my first-hand knowledge. And I've got an old help file listing that same message and the distros that has it.

[Ludootje]

Originally posted by cage47:
<STRONG>Hmm, lets see on this one.
Mandrake 7.0 on
Red Hat
Debian
Corel (eeesh, hate just saying that)
Storm

That's my first-hand knowledge. And I've got an old help file listing that same message and the distros that has it.</STRONG>
Ok you win :)
Sorry :o

[madfgurtbn]

Redhat no longer installs linuxconf by default. I don't know whether it is included as an option.

[cage47]

Maybe they did like Mandrake with sndconfig. It isn't loaded by default unless you click on the sound card box and tell the install it's an isa sound card. And maybe in RedHat you have to select it in individual packages? Who knows. I wonder why they do that? I mean gui's are nice, but these were so versitile and functional, why change it. Wasn't there even a gui front end for linuxconf? I understand the need for progress but why change something that ain't broke to begin with?