Linux Lilo questions

[Tuzinor]

Yes!- finally up & running.Installed Linux on first partition of 3rd hard drive which is the primary on the ATA 66 controller.Used Partition Commander to create & format the partition-used install to existing partition >installed all programs.No longer dealing with the built in ATA 100 controller -at least as far as Linux is concerned.During install selected Bootloader into boot sector not MBR-dummy that I am didn't make a boot disk >had to "upgrade" then created boot disk- so now there are extra entries in the Lilo configuration.
Questions regarding Lilo:
how do I make just one the default?
The little boxes/tabs(?)which shows it's activated-the tab is raised or depressed?-I see this in various parts of Linux-have not had time yet to read up on the details.
I currently have about 10 listings in the boot configuration:Failsafe,Floppy,Linux(/boot/vmlinuz),Linux-nonfb(/boot/vmlinuz), Old linux-nonfb(/boot/linuz-2.2.17-21mdk),Old2 Failsafe (/boot/vmliuz-2.2.17-21mdk), OLd Linux(/boot/vmliuz-2.2.17-21mdk).
Root=/dev/hda1 Append-(where used)=hdd=ide-scsi
Which ones do I keep? The image line >do I use the one with just /boot/vmliuz or do I need the one with the kernel info in the line also?
Currently booting into Linux via Floppy.Am using System Commander-installed on first drive-(Windows 98SE)-booting system from the Promise ATA 100 controller-able to boot Windows & BeOS with it-with this new Install-no longer get System Commander error when trying to boot into Linux- it starts LILO-but I get only first two letters "LI" then there's a flashing cursor-I'm guessing here that I need to eliminate the extra entries in Lilo and make just one the default if possible-correct me if I'm wrong.Once I get past this point I should be rolling!
Floppy drive-how Do I get it so I can access anything in the Floppy drive- everytime I try I get something about Permissions.
E-mail- still can't get KMail to receive mail.Go into Configure>Netconfig> Host name is correct but the Adapter will not hold the correct name.For whatever reason though I can get mail thru Netscape-so just wondering why one works and the other doesn't.
Netscape/Konquerer don't display pages the same way as Internet Explorer does-is there some settings that need to be changed or is it just how they operate?
Broadband question-with Windows I was able to edit the "Default RecvWindows" to triple my speed. Is there any kind of adjustment like this in Linux?
I want to thank everyone who helped me out in the various forums! Dave :)

[Lorithar]

Ummm

man lilo.conf
*grin*

Further .. there is an option to lilo
append =
insert params here.

readup, clean up your lilo.conf.
RUN /sbin/lilo
when you are done //
if there are errors at this point read them and report them.
man lilo.conf should answer all your questions on this front.

netscrape and Konqueror DO NOT work the same as Internet destroyer.
Kmail .. dunno guy ..
for recieve windows .. man ifconfig and look for txqueuelength and man route and look for mss.
(use route to change the max segment size and ifconfig to alter the recieve/transmit queues)

[Lorithar]

*oh*

as to the floppy permissions ..
man fstab
you need to set the permissions in fstab for /dev/fd0 so that when you mount it the system sets the permissions properly.

[Mulchman MM]

I have the same Lilo problem - it prints out "LI" and stops.

I also have a promise ultra ata/66 controller. I don't think lilo likes those.

What I do is this: Never install Lilo, and use a floppy to boot to linux. I have to pass boot commands each time I want to go to linux though. I've tried a couple boot loaders but they all seem to suck *** when dealing w/ the promise card.

There's an NHF on how to boot w/ a promise card and which parameters you need to pass on this website. Maybe that will help.

[ 01 March 2001: Message edited by: Mulchman MM ]

[ZeNN]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mulchman MM:
[B]I have the same Lilo problem - it prints out "LI" and stops.

Hey chief, that's because you forget to run /sbin/lilo after you change lilo.conf. Also, remeber that if you have a really big HD, you might have to pass lilo the -L switch. i.e /sbin/lilo -L

this is for LBA32 support

[Tuzinor]

Being absolutely new to Linux- could you elaborate on "run sbin/lilo"? I have Lilo installed in the boot partition hda1. Below is my current Lilo Config:
boot=/dev/hda1
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hda1
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda1
append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
Boots fine from Floppy- System Commander sees it at the proper spot -disk 2-0 gets as far as "LI" and that's it. Could you provide details on your suggestion? Are talking command line work? If so-please be specific-my knowledge in Command lines is very limited-thank's- Dave

[Lorithar]

*eeeks*


alrighty then...
I am assuming lilo is in the boot sector of the hardrive on the promise card. NOT on the MBR ... which sounds like it is system commander.

From the looks of this you want
#begin root section

boot=/dev/hdd
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
default=linux
nessage=/boot/mesage
prompt
timeout=100
#timeout is in tenths of seconds.

#begin first image section
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdd1
append= "hdd=ide-scsi lba32"
vga=788
read-only
#end first image
#begin second image
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hdd1
append=" hdd=ide-scsi lba32"
read-only
#end second image
#begin third image.
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdd1
append="lba32 hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
#end third image..

I do NOT know where the lines

menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
keytable=/boot/us.klt
would fit in as I do not believe they are lilo lines.but may be included in the append section.

The 'root' section are the defaults for all the images.
the images are the variations on linux(you could like I do have several kernels around to boot and play with the differences) In this case they are variations on the same copy of linux.

I CANNOT guarantee that this will work.
However, from what was in the lilo you put up, and from your description above, I believe that it will.
this is assuming that the FOURTH ide drive is the drive on which linux is installed.
(/dev/hdd being the fourth disk)
I read your initial post and noted the line .Installed Linux on first partition of 3rd hard drive
IF your bios sees this 3rd disk as /dev/hdc you will need to edit the above to change all references from hdd to hdc.

I am NOT sure of how the Promise controller affects drive labels a) in linux or b) in your systems BIOS.
The problem with the original lilo.conf was that it was pointing to /dev/hda, which from your initial post appears to be the drive on which windos is installed.

Once copied to lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo.
report any errors that occur.
(sbin/lilo basically runs a program that will read this file, and setup the core data to allow lilo to later load all the above images. NOT DOING THIS RESULTS IN LI at the prompt)

[Tuzinor]

The drive is /dev/hda.The Bios runs thru the ATA 66 controller (built in) first-ie- Primary-hda,hdb-which is empty,Secondary- hdc-Dvd rom,hdd-CDRW.The Promise ATA 100 Controller-(built in) where I boot from (with System Commander on Windows drive)and have the first two drives installed has it's own BIOS-so even though that is where I'm booting from the ASUS A7V Motherboard BIOS sees the ATA 66 first thus the HDA designation for the third hard drive.Mandrake says 7.2 has support for the ATA 100 card but not for the built in version-needed special parameters to install there. Did have it working-but had Grub installed into the MBR of the second disk-first patrtition where I had Linux installed.Was told Grub would not work with System Commander.Kept getting MBR error meesages regarding Linux from System Commander. Reinstalled with Lilo in the boot partition-when trying to reboot after install- kept getting "enter Run Level" prompt- no matter what # I entered -no luck- even erased whole disk and started from scratch-gave up and installed on the third hard drive.Those items that you didn't know what they were for were part of the Lilo config.Yes- Lilo is installed into bbot partition dev/hda1.
When you say run sbin/lilo is that a commasnd prompt or a file you click on to execute? Thank's again for your time- Dave

[Gaccm]

well, i dont know any hard drive stuff, but i can answer your broadband question :D No tweaking is necessary for linux. I used to get about 50K/s then tweaked to get 150K/s. on linux i have gotten to as high as 160K/s with no tweaking.

[Its_ON]

hay Mulchman MM , dude i have the same problem with the ultra66 card..
u konw what .. if u can get in linux.. in the lilo map ur HD
like root=blablabla
i had my friend help me with it but in order for me to get in linux i had to type that .. and then once i got in he edited the lilo and it worked fine..
try it ...